Seriously MF... Yes that is why, but the best place for us to draw lessons from us history (and I very much include myself in that statement - and whilst at first glance the question may have seemed a bit futile or leading, I can assure you it wasn't.isn't that why we are having a referendum? to find out if people agree or not?
Youv'e been dumbed down mate. Fed the narrative, and never thought to question it. It's a common problem. Always try and check your sources rather than just believing what TPTB tell you.You're serbian aren't you?
You still haven't answered my questions. Because you know you're talking out of your arse.
Go on then Pino. Set GD right with some facts that demonstrate he's wrong.....Youv'e been dumbed down mate. Fed the narrative, and never thought to question it. It's a common problem. Always try and check your sources rather than just believing what TPTB tell you.
Who rattled your cage ? Why don't you stop stirring and add something constructive to the debate for once in your life ?Go on then Pino. Set GD right with some facts that demonstrate he's wrong.....
Youv'e been dumbed down mate. Fed the narrative, and never thought to question it. It's a common problem. Always try and check your sources rather than just believing what TPTB tell you.
So you actually can't back up your bollocks? Not surprised tbh.Who rattled your cage ? Why don't you stop stirring and add something constructive to the debate for once in your life ?
A good, an unbiased opinion.Youv'e been dumbed down mate. Fed the narrative, and never thought to question it. It's a common problem. Always try and check your sources rather than just believing what TPTB tell you.
TPTB? What's that?Youv'e been dumbed down mate. Fed the narrative, and never thought to question it. It's a common problem. Always try and check your sources rather than just believing what TPTB tell you.
A good, an unbiased opinion.
Ever been to Bleiburg?
I have.
Of course you may never have heard of it as uncle Tito kept that dirty little secret well and truly buried in his benevolent dictatorship that brought joy and happiness to Yugoslavia for all those years.
EhErrrr? I thought you were "The Powers That Be".
Eh?good old Winston.
Nice unbiased piece on channel 4 news tonight. Apparently if we vote leave the Russians could invade the Baltic's and we'll be at (nuclear) war by 2017 #projectfear.
Brexiters are biased one sided in their arguements, but no more than you are for Remaining, and that's fine.Why would you try and perceive bias in independent news outlets whilst being perfectly happy about other news outlets with openly anti eu opinions manipulating the masses to further their own agendas?
Open question to all the paranoid brexettiers
I wouldn't worry the European SS and might of Merkels Wermacht and large EU nuclear weapons stock will stop that.Nice unbiased piece on channel 4 news tonight. Apparently if we vote leave the Russians could invade the Baltic's and we'll be at (nuclear) war by 2017 #projectfear.
It's comical on this thread all the Inners have really talked about is the fact there is only an imaginary de facto upside , that our own government is no better than EU , that that there is real danger of economic turmoil and that most of the other or the bigger issues we face are nothing to do with the EU . On the other side we have napoleon, the masons , Goldman Sachs, corruption , plots, nuclear attacks, jack booted hitler marching on our streets and then they have the gall to talk about project fear! (I accept this does not apply to every brexiter, but it is pretty clear who is using paranoia)Why would you try and perceive bias in independent news outlets whilst being perfectly happy about other news outlets with openly anti eu opinions manipulating the masses to further their own agendas?
Open question to all the paranoid brexettiers
That simply isn't true (other than the empty part) for 200 years Australia has been far emptier and has been far more selective in its immigrants.Its easy because the place is all but f*cking empty, and the Australian governments use of selective immigration to benefit the country.
Brexiters are biased one sided in their arguements, but no more than you are for Remaining, and that's fine.
I don't like the project fear tactics that both sides are espousing but they are and we have to accept it. Boris was ill advised to make the comments he did about Hitler, just as Dave was badly advised to intimate that Europe could break into a state of unrest or war even if we leave, both can be argued and defended but is that what this referendum is going to be fought about? Who can tell the most frightening stories.... not good, I'd like to think you'd agree with that.
Now to matters much more practical... I notice you haven't commented on my questions about remaining. If we remain surely we want to be at the centre of the decision making processes which will all be geared to making the EU and the currency stronger?
I'm sure you'd agree that at this moment when we aren't part of this group we are not very effective, we are more or less patsys, so as a Brexiter i say, if we vote to remain we should embrace the EU and the culture in its entirety by:
1. Joining the Euro, we need to be a part of that process, ultimately it is what the EU is all about. If we're in then let's be fully in rather than being excluded from the discussions that really matter
2. Open our borders a la Shengen. Let's enable our citizens got revel freely across Europe without having to go through the hassle of passport control. I mean there's a tax straight away... having to buy a passport.
3. Getting with the political integration plan, let's be at the front and drive it rather than being excluded and trailing behind he leading countries, we get very little say in the shape the EU us taking because we don't choose to participate-fully. That is just not good.
How can we be in the EU and have influence if we don't get stuck in and lead from the front.... or at least take part in the processes?
I hate to think we're going to continue as we are, it really is the very worst case scenario is it not?
As said my preference is to leave and that's how I'll vote, however, if we're in I want to be fully in, what say you, you remainers and Monkfish in particular?