Why couldn't Scotland have been independent, self governed and retained extremely strong ties with England and Wales? It's what's essentially keeping peace in Northern Ireland for the past 20 years.It will break up the UK which will be very sad, The UK achieved its greatness very much because of shared achievement, without Welsh and Scottish industry and Scottish ingenuity Britain may never have been great - I for one will be very sorry when it breaks up leaving an England divided much like Italy is today.
I live and work in Scotland and the vast majority of SNP voters who wanted independence from the UK dont agree with their leader and her insistence that Scotland wants in.
They are voting out and cant believe a leader and party that believes in independence from Westminster and the rest of the UK then wants to jump into bed with Europe and be under some European parliaments ruling.
It's an abuse of the Chancellors position to use propaganda. Gideon is just following big business instructions. No meaningful cost-benefit analysis has ever been done. What he should have said is The EU is not a recipe for prosperity,it is not a recipe for jobs. The EU just promotes the power of the state over citizens, and he knows that.Apparently we're all going to be £4.300 worse off by 2030 if we vote out. Can't wait to see how this figure was arrived at. Their desperation knows no bounds.
Westminster could declare war on Europe and the Scots still wouldn't vote for independence whilst the oil price is at its current level
I do hope so , I do hope that you're right if it comes to this but I think when Brexit doesn't cure long term ills or the vote is yes then the hunt will be on for who pays for the magic money that never comes. I do fear above all for the union and for the poorer parts of the U.K. I suppose I should fear more for NI than Scotland or Wales as ultimately if things go badly the consequences will be far worseWhy couldn't Scotland have been independent, self governed and retained extremely strong ties with England and Wales? It's what's essentially keeping peace in Northern Ireland for the past 20 years.
If Britain exits the EU it will still be neighbours with Europe and a very good one. All will be fine. :-)
Is that a comedy post - it is an abuse of power to use propaganda, I don't think I have seen a cabinet minister in my lifetime who hasn't used propaganda or followed instructions. As for following instructions of the biggest employers and contributors financially to the country then why wouldn't you? You could go near anywhere else in the entire world and with a few exceptions you would find that people in the EU are freer to be who they want and do what they want than just about anywhere else on the planet.It's an abuse of the Chancellors position to use propaganda. Gideon is just following big business instructions. No meaningful cost-benefit analysis has ever been done. What he should have said is The EU is not a recipe for prosperity,it is not a recipe for jobs. The EU just promotes the power of the state over citizens, and he knows that.
Evidence it, demonstrate your knowledge. This keeps getting thrown out like a fact where really you are not even scratching the surface of the granularity of international trade. I posted a long while back why, in my opinion, your line of argument here is incredibly misinformed at best.
We run at a trade deficit to Europe, they sell more to us AND at a higher price than on the world market, we are the second biggest economy in the EU (And cash cow) and you want to put forward the idea they will not want to trade, international trade works for us, not against, there will be countries falling over themselves to get a shot at the UK markets.
I believe you're just picking up quotes from another forum you are registered with and going with it because it suits your world view. Further evidenced by your frequent references to minford and holding him up to be something other than an outdated anti (any) government free marketeer.
I am not a member of another forum where this subject is posted, While you try and belittle Minford because he holds opposing views, it was he, not you, that was consulted by the select
committee for some strange reason ( I think its because he is held as an expert of long standing)
If these are your views, evidence why. If you won't at least do that, then you can be put down as another loudly shouting charlatan who believes yet doesn't understand the message in his words. Which I think is more likely given your obsession with GS. Have you ever interacted with them, by the way? I have and do, frequently. there is a reason why they're seemingly everywhere it's not because of some conspiracy, it's because they hire the best people. I know you'll dismiss that comment, it's what you do. But you can rest assured that they put all of us on here to shame intellectually and through drive. What they achieve, I daresay, outweighs oir own by some distance. It really shouldn't be a surprise that some of them end up working for supranationals. The Greece thing was a debacle, of course, but your obsession only belittles any point you put across.
The last bit is so funny you should be on stage, the snide hint of insult is so little leftie.
Yes I have "Interacted" with GS, My early days were spent working for Slater Walker an they never impressed me or the boss, he never trusted them or the schemes they constantly tried to flog, far from being recruited for intellect its more for a complete lack of integrity, mistaken in your statement for "Drive", its no surprise they end up where they do because its a circus with the same people pulling the strings.
You say "The Greece thing" as if it was an isolated case, yet almost every financial scandal of the last few decades will have a connection that implicates GS & company connections, do your own research.
The problem is they are not facts. You find me some evidence that Intra-EU migration has depressed wages or lengthened the dole queues and I'll accept what you are saying. I already have my evidence to hand but I'll wait for yours first.