EU referendum

EU referendum

  • In

    Votes: 503 47.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 547 52.1%
  • Total voters
    1,050
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SWP's back said:
Oh do fuck off then. If anyone is wumming its you. You're beyond myopic and thus refuse to be empathetic to any view other than your own.

You peddle fear. That's literally all you have. I've stated which way I'm likely to vote and the reasons for it. But people like you make me wish to vote OUT and as you have is cretinous "we'll be fucked as we are shite" rhetoric.

And yes, my gcse in economics, well done.
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If you dish it out you should be prepared to take it!

Everyone votes how they see fit. Part of my reasoning is that I feel European as well as British and English. Many do not and are entitled to their view.

The people I empaphise with are the teachers who over stretched due to uncontrolled immigration and workers in factories whose jobs could be at risk if the economy suffers. There are many millions of valid viewpoints on both sides of the debate.

I have not got much sympathy for someone who claims to be empathetic but is only bothered about profits from speculating on this major decision!
 
Tim of the Oak said:
If you dish it out you should be prepared to take it!

Everyone votes how they see fit. Part of my reasoning is that I feel European as well as British and English. Many do not and are entitled to their view.

The people I empaphise with are the teachers who over stretched due to uncontrolled immigration and workers in factories whose jobs could be at risk if the economy suffers. There are many millions of valid viewpoints on both sides of the debate.

I have not got much sympathy for someone who claims to be empathetic but is only bothered about profits from speculating on this major decision!
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Who's only bothered about profits?
 
CityStu said:
I think he'd also be in with a solid chance if it's an In vote. It's likely to be between him and Osbourne and the latter has come out of this with very little credibility. Not that Boris has either, but at least he's more likeable.
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It might depend to some extent on when the vote for PM is held. As long as Johnson makes the shortlist of two on which the members vote, he's sure to get the job. If the vote is held immediately after the referendum and he's standing as the standard bearer for the Leavers he's almost certain to make the shortlist. However if Remain win comfortably and the vote for Cameron's successor is delayed until 2018, when the EU is no longer such a big issue compared to winning the 2020 election, it might be different. Apparently Johnson isn't that popular among Tory MPs. Its possible that in a contest that isn't dominated by the EU, he could slip to 3rd place in the MPs vote, behind Osborne & May.

Hence his decision to join the Leavers.
 
yep said:
So you clicked the link I gave you?
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Mate,would have to agree with the other poster..... if your going to copy some info/comments for the forum.....atleast copy the "full" facts.....makes it difficult to take anything you say seriously otherwise....The "full" comment had a very different tone to what you wanted us to believe, which is the reason why you left out the "full" quote........
 
FanchesterCity said:
Sad as I am to say it, I suspect the vast majority of politicians nailing their colours to the mast are planning their own career strategies is the vote goes against them, rather than the nation's strategies.
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Unfortunately, my friend, it was ever thus. Truly honest and independent-minded, but still influential, politicians are as rare as rocking horse turds.
 
TRUE BLUE NO1 said:
Mate,would have to agree with the other poster..... if your going to copy some info/comments for the forum.....atleast copy the "full" facts.....makes it difficult to take anything you say seriously otherwise....The "full" comment had a very different tone to what you wanted us to believe, which is the reason why you left out the "full" quote........
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Absolutely agreed.
Just for the record (for people just arriving at this thread) -

“If there was a future trade agreement between the UK and EU then it doesn’t make a lot of difference,” said Trevor Mann, chief performance officer at Nissan and the carmaker’s most senior Briton. “If there are going to be tariffs it would make a significant difference.” In the meantime, he concludes: “All that is speculation.”

That second paragraph is absolutely critical, and it's very misleading to only show the first part. In reality he's stating the obvious - if there is change in the UK's circumstances, there will be change in their decision making.
 
Ok so who's going to screw up worse tonight in the debate dc or nf ? My money is on nf as dc has set himself such low standards so far that he surely must of fun out of apocalyptic analogies by now.

I'm nigel to squeeze in at least one quip that will be open to interpretation in racist terms and at least surpass his last hiv quotes on something completely left field that has nothing to do with the eu - migrants are statistically proven to have more fleas than British nationals.
 
I realise this is a heated topic guys but one or two contributions are getting out of hand,lets keep it as civil as possible,thank you.
 
sir baconface said:
Unfortunately, my friend, it was ever thus. Truly honest and independent-minded, but still influential, politicians are as rare as rocking horse turds.
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lol!....rocking horse turds? ;) I'll have to remember that one! he! No matter what our view....in OR out......I think we can all agree on that mate!;)
 
Chippy_boy said:
Do you genuinely not understand, or are you simply wanting an argument? I only ask because the threat to UK jobs is so blindingly obvious that only a complete fool or a troll could ignore it and I am assuming you are neither.

But on the basis that we can have a sensible discussion, you aware that the car manufacturing business is incredibly competitive and operates on small margins at best (unless you are Porsche)? Is it not obvious to you that if a business that set up in the UK specifically with the intention of manufacturing cars for export across Europe is faced with having it's products subject to import duty, then it might decide to move production to elsewhere in the UK? Surely that is obvious.

The CEO of Nissan some years back said they would have to reconsider their strategy if the UK ever decide to leave the EU. How much more evidence do you need?
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Seeing as you are so knowledgeable (if tetchy) on this point, how big an import duty would it take to frighten them off? What about 2%, for argument's sake?
 
Chippy_boy said:
I am not remotely surprised. I am seriously considering moving significant money into UK-centred funds right now because I am expecting a Remain vote and a sharp rise in the FTSE immediately afterwards. But it is a risk, since a Brexit win would mean the FTSE drops sharply and I could lose my shirt and being a wimp, I am nervous about it.
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If you are confident of a remain vote, you should go into property. Population projections + limited housing stock = surefire long term investment.
 
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