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Akiva said:
Speculation.

I don't see how a signing around £14 million affects us acquiring Aubameyang, even if we do end up coughing up £40+ million for Sane.

Pep will basically have a blank cheque to get who he wants. And he's as big a squad rotator as any manager in the game, so it's not unthinkable he'd have multiple signings for similar roles.

In short: don't give up on Aubameyang yet.
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Money is not the reason why getting Nolito makes getting Auba unlikely. Squad availability is. If we get Nolito and Sane, plus Sterling and Navas we now have a 4 at the wing forward position. And this doesn't even include Silva DeBryune and Nasri who can all be deployed in those areas. It is this consideration that makes getting Auba less likely.

Perhaps a better way to put it will be this: if we get Nolito, then one of Sane or Auba isn't coming. We simply aren't buying 3 wing forwards.
 
Dax777 said:
Money is not the reason why getting Nolito makes getting Auba unlikely. Squad availability is. If we get Nolito and Sane, plus Sterling and Navas we now have a 4 at the wing forward position. And this doesn't even include Silva DeBryune and Nasri who can all be deployed in those areas. It is this consideration that makes getting Auba less likely.

Perhaps a better way to put it will be this: if we get Nolito, then one of Sane or Auba isn't coming. We simply aren't buying 3 wing forwards.
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Did you even read my post?

I addressed the very issue you've brought up. Pep is a squad rotator like none other, it's not strange in the slightest to have multiple signings to the same positions. Further, it's highly possible Sterling and Navas will be nothing more than squad depth at this point.

Beyond even that, Aubameyang brings things none of the other players we are linked to do - the ability to be a pure striker/centre forward.

So, no. I don't see Nolito being a replacement for or indicator we are out on Aubameyang. He represents a good value buy with a reliable finish, something we currently sorely lack on the flank.
 
Dax777 said:
Money is not the reason why getting Nolito makes getting Auba unlikely. Squad availability is. If we get Nolito and Sane, plus Sterling and Navas we now have a 4 at the wing forward position. And this doesn't even include Silva DeBryune and Nasri who can all be deployed in those areas. It is this consideration that makes getting Auba less likely.

Perhaps a better way to put it will be this: if we get Nolito, then one of Sane or Auba isn't coming. We simply aren't buying 3 wing forwards.
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I was thinking about it last night, I've already said in the Kroos thread that I believe Txiki has been playing a game of chess for a while with the end goal being us signing Toni Kroos and Real getting Pogba after we have pushed the price up forcing real to sell a prized asset. What if Aubamayang was all part of this end game and we've been nudging the price up I.e. Wage demands etc dor Real spend -€200 mill on 2 players and €500,000 a week on those wages. We could easily ease that pressure by paying €60mill for Kroos and his €200,000 a week wages.
 
Akiva said:
Did you even read my post?

I addressed the very issue you've brought up. Pep is a squad rotator like none other, it's not strange in the slightest to have multiple signings to the same positions. Further, it's highly possible Sterling and Navas will be nothing more than squad depth at this point.

Beyond even that, Aubameyang brings things none of the other players we are linked to do - the ability to be a pure striker/centre forward.

So, no. I don't see Nolito being a replacement for or indicator we are out on Aubameyang. He represents a good value buy with a reliable finish, something we currently sorely lack on the flank.
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I agree here. Personally I hate having silva out wide and I'd prefer KDB not play wide either. I think it's definitely more probable than not that we get 1 and not the other unfortunately.

I'm not sure how much faith I'd have having to rely on Sane/Sterling carrying so much pressure/weight either. Especially playing at the same time.
 
ADegenerate said:
Stones, Sane, Gundo, and Nolito puts as at around 120£. We've heard rumors of I believe 150£. I could easily see is getting Aubameng also which would put us around 165£. I think 200 is a fair estimate of what we might spend. We could land Kante and maybe a LB/orCB to get to that close to 200.

Anyway just throwing rough numbers out there but I don't think Aubameyang is dead at all.
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I would love to see Aubameyang here, would be our biggest signing of the summer if he signed......but I'd be more than happy with a summer spend of Stones, Sane, Gundogan and Nolito...all 4 would step straight into our starting 11....
 
If he can emulate his last season's form for us, he'll be a bargain. This will also take some pressure off of Raheem, and Pep could then work on his development accordingly.

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bluesingh said:
If he can emulate his last season's form for us, he'll be a bargain. This will also take some pressure off of Raheem, and Pep could then work on his development accordingly.

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I'm.not a fan of these types of stat comparison. It favors the guys who had more minutes. Better to compare percentages per 90 minutes. That's a better indicator.
 
Dax777 said:
I'm.not a fan of these types of stat comparison. It favors the guys who had more minutes. Better to compare percentages per 90 minutes. That's a better indicator.
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Gotcha!
Here it is.

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Still on par, if not better than most of them considering he plays for Celta Vigo.
 
Akiva said:
Did you even read my post?

I addressed the very issue you've brought up. Pep is a squad rotator like none other, it's not strange in the slightest to have multiple signings to the same positions. Further, it's highly possible Sterling and Navas will be nothing more than squad depth at this point.

Beyond even that, Aubameyang brings things none of the other players we are linked to do - the ability to be a pure striker/centre forward.

So, no. I don't see Nolito being a replacement for or indicator we are out on Aubameyang. He represents a good value buy with a reliable finish, something we currently sorely lack on the flank.
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Yeah I read your post

Point 1 was 14 million wasn't a barrier
Point 2 was Pep Rotates.

I said point 1 is not the issue with Nolito being an indicator that it will make Auba less likely to come.

Then I addressed point 2 by showing we will have players who can be rotated in these positions. So Pep being a squad rotator still doesn't make it likely he'd add 2 more.

Not to mention Pep is also know for liking a small squad. So if he buys Nolito and keeps Navas and Sterling as has been suggested he will, it is unlikely he'd also buy 2 more attacking options.

Hence why I concluded by saying, getting Nolito depresses the chances of getting at least one of Auba or Sane.

Here is the logical tree I followed:
Based on the number of adaptable players we have, we are unlikely to buy 3 more attacking players.

So if one is Nolito, that leaves us Less likely to get at least one of the other 2.
 
Pep is known to have small squads in leagues that don't have: League campaign, Capital One Cup, FA Cup and either Champions League/Europa. So let's stop hanging on to the "Pep likes a small squad" deal. If anything the amount of targets we're linked with, and the fact that Pep wants to rotate with a talented squad(no "squad players") means that it's very possible we'll buy more than usual in certain positions.
 
That stat comparison is very interesting. First, I had no idea how apparently good of a player Nolito seems to be.

Secondly, as mentioned above, the comparison of Sterling to Black Ronaldo. Fans of the Nonsense would surely claim their turgid attack under vG played a role. I'd see their vG and raise them Pellers as far as a terrible offensive setup.

Anyway, Nolito. 14 mil? Sounds like good business. Assuming they don't stick him on 4 years at high wages. Which I'm sure they will, unfortunately.
 
Just looking at the stats of both Sane and Nolito, it is clear what Pep wants in his wingers. They should be quick, direct and help the defense. So maybe, the 3-5-2 theory may just be true.
 
Tugay One Cup said:
Agudo Duran? He can fuck right off with a name like that.

What's that, Nolito? Sign him up Txiki, he sounds class.

His name fits 'No Limit' like a glove and that's the hallmark of any great.
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Couldn't get a more 80s' name than Agadoo Duran Duran :)
 
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