Nolito

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Terra Passenger said:
For 14m I'm all in! :-)

The point I guess I'm trying to make... is that I don't see him being signed as a starter. Maybe he has a fantastic season and becomes a starter; maybe we don't end up signing another winger and by default he's our starter... but for City - my club - my club with the best manager in the world - my club that wants to immediately challenge for the UCL.... some 14m Winger from Spain in a not-so-great forward line, hardly seems like a planned first choice starter.

Backup. Yes.

Big backup improvement. Yes.

And from what I've read in the press, someone who doesn't cause trouble at all and is a tremendous team player. Yes.

14m for a starting winger in a UCL winning side - in one of the wealthiest squads in the world who need a starting winger and who can spend 50, 60, 70 million or more for that position - are you kidding me?
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You really don't understand how releases clauses work do you? Only the top players in Spain have ridiculous release clauses the rest have the lowest ones they can so if they want to move they can
 
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Walking on the blue moon said:
I think him getting a starting position, despite not being veterans or coming from a big club (Real and Barca players much more likely to get the nod under Del Bosque), speaks a lot about his performance. If you look at it more loosely, he's actually picked ahead of Pedro (who threw a tantrum about it), Lucas Vazquez, Saul, Isco, Paco, Juan Mata, Torres, Navas, etc. Of course a part of the reason is due to his directness, dribbling, dynamism and work rate, but he's not Navas. Navas is more of an out and out winger while Nolito likes to cut inside. A few weeks ago Marca and AS hailed him as the successor of David Villa. Although peak Villa is obviously a few levels higher and he shoots far more than Nolito, their style of play and attitude do have similarities. Just look at the movement, the tenacity and the desire to be a team player first and foremost.

I'll admit that I didn't watch him week in, week out; only two matches each season, the La Liga highlights and when he played with Spain, but more often than not he impresses me. Thus I'll be more than happy if he signs. At present I think he's good enough to start ahead of Sterling (not a dig at Raheem, simply an opinion based on current ability and form), but then a lot depends on how he will settle in.
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An interesting take. I'm just speculating and am taking a bit of an extreme position to spark further discussion. Interesting to see where he ends up if indeed he's signed.

Whatever the outcome, we're FUCKING WINNING THE TITLE NEXT SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!! LoL.
 
Terra Passenger said:
An interesting take. I'm just speculating and am taking a bit of an extreme position to spark further discussion. Interesting to see where he ends up if indeed he's signed.

Whatever the outcome, we're FUCKING WINNING THE TITLE NEXT SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!! LoL.
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ROLL ON NEXT SEASON! Maybe we'll hear GOLITO DE NOLITO a lot!

Haha I may be getting a bit ahead of myself.
 
Terra Passenger said:
An interesting take. I'm just speculating and am taking a bit of an extreme position to spark further discussion. Interesting to see where he ends up if indeed he's signed.

Whatever the outcome, we're FUCKING WINNING THE TITLE NEXT SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!! LoL.
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Not one just wins the league you need to work hard every game this season will be the hardest yet alot of work to do . I expect us to be in the mix Yes but we won't run away with it or have it all are own way
 
I've not seen Nolito play often, but given his track record and the price we are paying for him I am certainly not unhappy with this signing. We lacked depth up front last season and it looks like this lad is able to play in a few positions up front so he will be a useful addition. If Pep wants him, that's good enough for me!
 
Terra Passenger said:
A cheap comment.

Explain exactly where you disagree.

If this is some sort of ironic agreement with me, I apologize. But it hardly seems so.
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Terra Passenger said:
14m for a starting winger in a UCL winning side - are you kidding me?
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i Disagree with all of it. But especially that quoted bit

It was a cheap comment but your logic is quite literally disgusting to me
 
ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN said:
I thought he was a spanish version of that Paddy McGuinness show

Noliko Nolito
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Very smart. :-)

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I've not seen every game he's played his season and I'm not skilled enough a viewer to work as a columnist or anything, but I've at least seen an amount of his performances this season at Celta, including his performance against Barca, against Rayo, against Real and against Espanyol and he was simply electrifying at least in the first half of the league. Considering that and the fact that he is familiar to our manager, and the other fact that if he comes he is probably the best suited player in the current setting to Guardiola's mould of a wide forward, chances are he is not coming here as a squad player or a rotation option, he is coming to be one of the first names on the team sheet.

Obviously he may flop, and we may sign marquee players that will supersede him, but as it stands he just isn't coming to play rotation option to Raheem, the opposite will be more likely. Every one of the football fans around me that have watched more Celta than me are together in saying that he will hold down his place in the first eleven and elevate our squad a notch. He ain't a permanent option, we will need to replace in a season or two and I repeat he may not adjust well enough but now I'm pretty happy with him as a starter, he's no worse than Saul, he's no worse than Carrasco, he's no worse than Vazquez and all of them played in the CL Final
 
karen7 said:
You really don't understand how releases clauses work do you? Only the top players in Spain have ridiculous release clauses the rest have the lowest ones they can so if they want to move they can
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Yup - no clue on release clauses in Spain.

As I've said though - 14m for a backup who may have a few great seasons and could potentially start - smart business.

14m for someone who is 29 years old, and who presumably (given the buyout) is just now having a break-out season - yeah, clearly a starter on a UCL side. NOT!

A backup for me - admittedly speculative - and an improvement to our squad.

A regular starter... no way - could be wrong though.

And just for grins - suppose that Spanish release clauses were totally out of sync and that all sorts of great players are available for cheap. Then whey aren't Barca, Real, PSG, etc. all pursuing these awesome bargains.

In particular, why aren't we in a dog fight between one or more of these clubs for Nolito?

I'd say it's because his transfer fee is judged to be approximately accurate by top football clubs.
 
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Terra Passenger said:
Yup - no clue on release clauses in Spain.

As I've said though - 14m for a backup who may have a few great seasons and could potentially start - smart business.

14m for someone who is 29 years old, and who presumably (given the buyout) is just now having a break-out season - yeah, clearly a starter on a UCL side. NOT!.
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You really know nothing at all about him, do you?

I mean, you PRESUME he's having a break out season, without even bothering to look it up.

Similarly, you didn't do your homework about other clubs in on him. Barca wanted him.

Instead you looked at the price and judged him based on that. Makes you look foolish in the extreme.
 
Terra Passenger said:
Yup - no clue on release clauses in Spain.

As I've said though - 14m for a backup who may have a few great seasons and could potentially start - smart business.

14m for someone who is 29 years old, and who presumably (given the buyout) is just now having a break-out season - yeah, clearly a starter on a UCL side. NOT!

A backup for me - admittedly speculative - and an improvement to our squad.

A regular starter... no way - could be wrong though.

And just for grins - suppose that Spanish release clauses were totally out of sync and that all sorts of great players are available for cheap. Then whey aren't Barca, Real, PSG, etc. all pursuing these awesome bargains.

In particular, why aren't we in a dog fight between one or more of these clubs for Nolito?

I'd say it's because his transfer fee is judged to be approximately accurate by top football clubs.
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you do know that he is currently starting for the reigning European Champions?
 
my take on it is that Pep has looked at what we have available out wide -
Nasri, Silva, De Bruyne all can play there but prefer to drift in and out
Navas and Sterling haven't exactly torn up trees
Barker and Roberts - he will want to see up close

14 million for a goal scoring, hardworking wide player who is very capable to play wide in a 3. Priceless if you ask me
 
Terra Passenger said:
14m for someone who is 29 years old, and who presumably (given the buyout) is just now having a break-out season - yeah, clearly a starter on a UCL side. NOT!
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I personally see him as a regular starter as he would be our best wide player but ultimately that will be decided by Guardiola. He knows him well enough and so will be well aware of what he can offer.
 
Esteban de la Sexface said:
my take on it is that Pep has looked at what we have available out wide -
Nasri, Silva, De Bruyne all can play there but prefer to drift in and out
Navas and Sterling haven't exactly torn up trees
Barker and Roberts - he will want to see up close

14 million for a goal scoring, hardworking wide player who is very capable to play wide in a 3. Priceless if you ask me
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Correct.
 
I think he'll essentially be a wide forward ...like Messi.

Aguero will occupy the CDs and Nolito wil double team with the wide men (Sterling/Sane/Navas/whoever) on the fullback so there's a 2 against 1 situation.

Just me guess from seeing him playing in the Euros and the Pep video TH posted a few days back. Think it could work well.
 
Terra Passenger said:
Yup - no clue on release clauses in Spain.

As I've said though - 14m for a backup who may have a few great seasons and could potentially start - smart business.

14m for someone who is 29 years old, and who presumably (given the buyout) is just now having a break-out season - yeah, clearly a starter on a UCL side. NOT!

A backup for me - admittedly speculative - and an improvement to our squad.

A regular starter... no way - could be wrong though.

And just for grins - suppose that Spanish release clauses were totally out of sync and that all sorts of great players are available for cheap. Then whey aren't Barca, Real, PSG, etc. all pursuing these awesome bargains.

In particular, why aren't we in a dog fight between one or more of these clubs for Nolito?

I'd say it's because his transfer fee is judged to be approximately accurate by top football clubs.
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Your arguments are some of the most bizarre stuff I've ever seen on this forum.

It's basically:

- He cost £14m so he can't be good.

- He's 29 so he can't be good.

- No one else has signed him so he can't be good.

You admit to having no idea what he's like or how good he is, but say he must only be a back up.

It's the most ludicrous reductive reasoning ever.
 
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