Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

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True_Blue69 said:
What a shit response. Clearly after applying some thought, you agree with what I'm saying and feel embarrassed by your previous posts so have posted that. It's ok to admit you were wrong don't sweat it.​
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My thoughts on this are well known, but I'll entertain you...

You're a stereotypical English football fan who believes that sweat and tears defines a players ability... Why oh why would you continue to embarrass yourself when you can't even understand (i)the decision made by Pep (ii) the tactics behind it... Hey ho, you know more than the manager though, evidently...

And (iii) I'm never wrong petal, it's hard god damn work being this right!!!
 
blueinsa said:
Think it s rumour emanating from twitter so take that how you want mate?

Im sure he wasnt happy not playing but there is nothing but rumour to suggest he kicked off about it as far as i know.
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Guardiola post match video on BBC Football said Joe Hart took decision well.
 
Marvin said:
I think Hart is good enough. Perhaps Willy has shown more in training, or maybe Joe will play in midweek, but I wouldn't say he is not good enough to play in Peps system. Perhaps Guardiola feels he has to improve certain aspects.
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Marvin.

We are after Stergan. Pep is fully aware that Joe will not sit on a bench and play 2nd fiddle. He's England's number 1. I'm pretty certain that Guardiolas only feeling right now is the need to sell him and bring in the goalkeeper he wants.

We will have to agree to disagree in terms of Joe being able to adapt to Peps system.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Remind me then of all the mistakes he made for City last season? Can't believe you're criticising him because he doesn't do a quick throw every time. I've noticed the fans at matches get on his case about this, what they don't notice is that almost every time, the player they are clamouring for him to throw to is the only player anywhere near the oppositions half and is outnumbered. You can tell the majority of City fans have never played 11 a side football.
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Yeah you're right, there's never anyone on. Sorry I didn't realise you'd played 11 a side.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
My thoughts on this are well known, but I'll entertain you...

You're a stereotypical English football fan who believes that sweat and tears defines a players ability... Why oh why would you continue to embarrass yourself when you can't even understand (i)the decision made by Pep (ii) the tactics behind it... Hey ho, you know more than the manager though, evidently...

And (iii) I'm never wrong petal, it's hard god damn work being this right!!!
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You now fuck all about me you absolute plum. Who mentioned blood sweat and tears? I know 100%, and I'd say 99.9% of anyone interested in football would agree, when I say Hart is better than Willy. Can't even believe this discussion is taking place. He's behind Romero in line for Argentina, what does that tell you. If you watched any pre season you would have seen how bad his distribution is, almost cost us goals in every game. I'd be amazed if he's not back in the starting line up by the international break.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
My thoughts on this are well known, but I'll entertain you...

You're a stereotypical English football fan who believes that sweat and tears defines a players ability... Why oh why would you continue to embarrass yourself when you can't even understand (i)the decision made by Pep (ii) the tactics behind it... Hey ho, you know more than the manager though, evidently...

And (iii) I'm never wrong petal, it's hard god damn work being this right!!!
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Except about who we are signing? ;)
 
I feel for Joe, that's got to be tough. He handled being benched well last year though so maybe this will be good for him.

I think most of us would like to see Joe play, but if Pep thinks Willy is the best option we have to accept that and cheer on Willy Wonka.

I'm guessing Pep isn't thrilled with either option and is trying to bring in Ter Stegen. Hate to say this but if the man with 4 names (Marc-Andre Ter Stegen) or another GK does come in I hope we sell Joe to a German, Italian, Spanish, or French club. Seeing Joe as the 3rd choice keeper who doesn't even dress for the majority of games would be tough for everyone involved. And he'd surely lose his spot as the England #1 if he wasn't playing on a regular basis.
 
Proy said:
Marvin.

We are after Stergan. Pep is fully aware that Joe will not sit on a bench and play 2nd fiddle. He's England's number 1. I'm pretty certain that Guardiolas only feeling right now is the need to sell him and bring in the goalkeeper he wants.

We will have to agree to disagree in terms of Joe being able to adapt to Peps system.
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Just read some more post-match comment from pep: "I have a lot of respect for Joe, I have a lot of respect for his career, I know how good a goalkeeper he is, but today I decide for Willy, that's all."

Maybe this is just talk, but I would like to think Joe Hart still has something to offer City.

You were right today.
 
as somebody mentioned yesterday, if both 'keepers begin practising now, we will see more hoofing and less passing to begin with but gradually the amount of both will reverse.
Even the most skillful players in training don't always perform as well in games because they know more is at stake - it takes constant practise in matches to increase in confidence.
They'll both become confident, technically, in training, but only doing it in matches, little by little, will make them feel able to do it consistently.
The Arsenal friendly isn't necessarily the best indicator because Arsenal deliberately tried to put pressure on our back 4 and 'keeper, knowing that it would be our tactic. The pitch also wasn't a carpet like most PL pitches are. Some teams will try to target our back 5 and catch them out, but others will prefer to be more defensive and not commit players up the pitch purely on the off-chance that they'll force an error. Joe has always been a Pro and knuckled down. He'll admit that this part of his game is lacking and hopefully works towards adding it to his skill set. I wouldn't have thought he'd be arrogant enough to think he's the finished article at 29.
The problem is, from his point of view, the more everyone keeps stirring the pot, the more likely Fat Sam is to play Butland for England.
Then again, he'll also be ignoring Stones and finding room for Noble and Defoe...
 
True_Blue69 said:
You now fuck all about me you absolute plum. Who mentioned blood sweat and tears? I know 100%, and I'd say 99.9% of anyone interested in football would agree, when I say Hart is better than Willy. Can't even believe this discussion is taking place. He's behind Romero in line for Argentina, what does that tell you. If you watched any pre season you would have seen how bad his distribution is, almost cost us goals in every game. I'd be amazed if he's not back in the starting line up by the international break.
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So you are saying pep is stupid?
 
Marvin said:
Just read some more post-match comment from pep: "I have a lot of respect for Joe, I have a lot of respect for his career, I know how good a goalkeeper he is, but today I decide for Willy, that's all."

Maybe this is just talk, but I would like to think Joe Hart still has something to offer City.

You were right today.
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I think the only thing Hart wants to offer City is his very best as our number one keeper. Offer him anything less and I think he'd rather go somewhere else. Wouldn't blame him either.
 
True_Blue69 said:
You now fuck all about me you absolute plum. Who mentioned blood sweat and tears? I know 100%, and I'd say 99.9% of anyone interested in football would agree, when I say Hart is better than Willy. Can't even believe this discussion is taking place. He's behind Romero in line for Argentina, what does that tell you. If you watched any pre season you would have seen how bad his distribution is, almost cost us goals in every game. I'd be amazed if he's not back in the starting line up by the international break.
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S h o u l d I s a y t h I s m o r e s l o w l y s o y o u c a n u n d e r s t a n d???

Find where any person has said willy is the better keeper you tool... You can't even keep a coherent conversation up never mind analyze a fucking playing system that requires a certain type of player...

I can tell you this, 99% of the forum now know you're a thick **** rather than thinking it..

Now go watch some EDL rallies on YouTube!!
 
NanaToure42 said:
I feel for Joe, that's got to be tough. He handled being benched well last year though so maybe this will be good for him.

I think most of us would like to see Joe play, but if Pep thinks Willy is the best option we have to accept that and cheer on Willy Wonka.

I'm guessing Pep isn't thrilled with either option and is trying to bring in Ter Stegen. Hate to say this but if the man with 4 names (Marc-Andre Ter Stegen) or another GK does come in I hope we sell Joe to a German, Italian, Spanish, or French club. Seeing Joe as the 3rd choice keeper who doesn't even dress for the majority of games would be tough for everyone involved. And he'd surely lose his spot as the England #1 if he wasn't playing on a regular basis.
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Buffon thinks he's top notch so perhaps he'll head to Juve to replace him...
 
adrianr said:
I think the only thing Hart wants to offer City is his very best as our number one keeper. Offer him anything less and I think he'd rather go somewhere else. Wouldn't blame him either.
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He wouldn't go elsewhere though would he according to some, he bleeds city, he gives his all even with a bit of a sniffle, he would rather clean toilets than leave the club etc...
 
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