Joe Hart (joined Torino on season long loan - Official)

[kaz7]

Hart has quite a catalogue of fuck ups himself.

Willy has a hard time keeping the ball out of the net,he scrabbles around and looks stupid,maybe he will have to try and save less shot if we have all the possession,we'll see

 

[SWP's back]

Pep is ruthless. If Aguero fucks him off then Iheanacho gets the game time. Would that make him the better player?

Pep will always do what he feels is best for the team.

You're loving your hypotheticals aren't you.

 

[pudge]

For the way Pep wants us to play, Willy is the better fit IMO

You like to ask questions but not answer them.

Neither 'keeper currently fits the new requirements. Does there become a point where overall ability takes over trying? For Pep there won't be but would everyone be happy with that?

 

[Manchester_lalala]

Caballero better than hart? Christ, this forum has gone potty.

 

[pudge]

Pep will always do what he feels is best for the team.

You're loving your hypotheticals aren't you.

I took that hypothetical from one of your previous posts.

 

[mosssideblue]

You like to ask questions but not answer them.

Neither 'keeper currently fits the new requirements. Does there become a point where overall ability takes over trying? For Pep there won't be but would everyone be happy with that?

Im sorry but the post you responded to has my answer. Whats your issue

 

[SWP's back]

I took that hypothetical from one of your previous posts.

Which was a reply to one of yours no?

Certainly someone's.

Edit. Hang on, which of my previous posts?

 

[SWP's back]

You like to ask questions but not answer them.

Neither 'keeper currently fits the new requirements. Does there become a point where overall ability takes over trying? For Pep there won't be but would everyone be happy with that?

He literally made a statement rather than asked a question.

 

[malg]

Haha! Soon as I saw your name I knew you'd be bringing Silva into it.
Yaya getting dropped and Dave being captain must have had you scratching your head..
As one of Silvas biggest fans I'd have no problem with him playing less if a better player is brought in.

The reason I mention Silva is because he is the one player in our squad, who even when not playing his best continually gets people drooling, so for me he's the one who will cause most and amongst fans when he gets dropped. Hart has always had his detractors, people have been slating him for his distribution for a few years now, so it's probably understandable that a manager dropping him would cause some fuss, but also quite a lot would understand it. For me personally, although I like Silva as a player, and a decent fella, I will never, ever understood the adulation he gets - he doesn't do enough for me. I normally mention him to get a rise from one of his fan boys to be honest.

 

[urban genie]

think the thread is tied now on who should start, a few saying willy and harts fan club saying joe while the rest don't mind as long as they get the job done and are in tune with Peps vision.

So I think we should just play whos got a better song and harts song is awful compared to willys hokey kokey.

 

[pudge]

Which was a reply to one of yours no?

Certainly someone's.

Edit. Hang on, which of my previous posts?

Yeah because Augero was receiving the ball quickly for the past 3 years.

To answer though, if Aguero acts the **** then he goes. No one is irreplaceable.

So if he were to act the ****, Pep would drop him at the very least before "he goes". That wouldn't make the player who plays in his place better than him, unless it's one of the Barca three.

 

[mat]

I spent all summer saying if the defenders were ready then Joe could learn to play out from the back. After Saturdays game I realised how wrong I was. The keeper is the foundation Peps whole philosophy is built on and the foundation needs to be solid for rest of the team to learn the system. We need a keeper who instinctively knows what is required so it happens quickly.
Joe may or may not be able to adapt, but he can't be learning in our first team.
I just wonder if Bravo comes in, Joe could go on loan for a year, maybe Seville to learn, then come back to replace Willy and try to show he has adapted competing with Bravo who'll be 35 by then.

To me that'll be a win win with both sides proclaiming the European experience will improve Hart for England and City.

 

[Phil1]

The reason I mention Silva is because he is the one player in our squad, who even when not playing his best continually gets people drooling, so for me he's the one who will cause most and amongst fans when he gets dropped. Hart has always had his detractors, people have been slating him for his distribution for a few years now, so it's probably understandable that a manager dropping him would cause some fuss, but also quite a lot would understand it. For me personally, although I like Silva as a player, and a decent fella, I will never, ever understood the adulation he gets - he doesn't do enough for me. I normally mention him to get a rise from one of his fan boys to be honest.

Proud to be a fanboy. As are many, many, many others judging by how highly rated he is.
Horses for courses I suppose.

 

[SWP's back]

So if he were to act the ****, Pep would drop him at the very least before "he goes". That wouldn't make the player who plays in his place better than him, unless it's one of the Barca three.

Absolutely. If he's acting the **** and ruining the game plan then playing someone else would be better for the team.

Barca fans weren't happy at first when he got rid of Deco and Ronaldinho, they were arguably better individuals but weakened the team in comparison to this brought in. The rest was history.

 

[pudge]

He literally made a statement rather than asked a question.

In general, didn't say it was his response. Even you have referenced it the past few days.

 

[SWP's back]

In general, didn't say it was his response. Even you have referenced it the past few days.

That's a good point. Burn him.

 

[Ell-ano]

You've got to back Pep's decisions (as much as I don't like it) he's been brought in to do a job and he has to make the decisions, time will tell if its the right decision in the long run or If he even sticks with it.

I'm not surprised that Hart is upset, he's been No.1 for years and is probably champing at the bit the prove all his doubters from the Euros wrong, I'm sure he fancies his chances of regaining his spot in the long run, after all he is a far better keeper than Willy.

On another note, in all the training videos it didn't look like he wasn't willing, he was working harder in those rondos than anyone else. City legend.

 

[razman]

Bravo is done. Now simple matter if Hart wants to stay and fight for no. 1.

 

[kaz7]

Ric says Bravo is happening

 

[pudge]

Absolutely. If he's acting the **** and ruining the game plan then playing someone else would be better for the team.

Barca fans weren't happy at first when he got rid of Deco and Ronaldinho, they were arguably better individuals but weakened the team in comparison to this brought in. The rest was history.

The second part is my point though; the better player. If Aguero turned around and called Pep a slaphead shitbag I doubt he'd play tomorrow, doesn't change his impact on the team though.

Caballero is not a better 'keeper than Hart just because Pep picked him to play.

Just like Bony is not a better player than Iheanacho because Pellegrini picked him to play.