The more I read about this bloody soap opera, the more I think that City have still not shed the 'Typical City' image and our first trophy under the new regime will be yet another cup for yet another cock up.
I don't know who is responsible but once again we are becoming a laughing stock as we blunder along saddled with a player we apparently do not want because he supposedly is not good enough playmaker decided either at the last minute by a manager who has been a long time in the coming, supposedly a good friend of the DoF yet apparently they do not speak about such minor matters as getting rid of the England goalie and/or paying him huge wages for either not playing or for playing for someone else.
Can anyone, even the blind faith guys, honestly say that this mess would be allowed to happen any where else at a big club in UK or Europe? Even the utter clown Woodward does not get involved in such messes. We have several highly paid players who if they stay and are not used will cost us a fortune or if they go we will take a big hit with us continuing to pay their wages.
Get a grip City FFS. What happened to the revolution?
I think you need to calm down. Being saddled with a player on high wages that you don't want is hardly a rare occurrence. Joe Hart isn't even the only player on high wages we need to shift. It seems the levels of hysteria surrounding this kind of thing go off the charts when a goalie is involved for some reason. At the moment United are stuck with Schweinsteiger ) and they'll be stuck with Rooney until 2019 (a player whose number will be up by the end of this season). If Joe Hart doesn't want to take a pay cut or step down a level then that's up to him.
Ridiculous to say Woodward wouldn't get involved in such a mess. This is a guy who has just overseen a world record purchase for his club's own academy product. He paid £28m for Fellaini a few days after his £18m release clause expired and they've just resorted to bringing in a manager they've spent the past three years pretending is beneath the club and their values.
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How's your mates Rooney and Bastian doing?Woodward has had a few years and three new managers to achieve his level of incompetence but as I recall (and I don't bother much with what the rags do) I do not remember him with highly paid, unwanted players hanging around.
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It is a continuing cock up. Full stop, end of, finito
The pig fucker?So you think all this fucking about is good management either at boardroom level or dressing room level?
We seem to have two camps over the Hart Out business those who were saying it last year and those who were saying the opposite but have done an about face because 'Pep' says it and 'in Pep we trust'. If the first camp did not rate him, I would hope that Pep also would have seen this last season and taken appropriate steps via his good friend Trixie instead of signing Barca's now second choice goalie after the season has begun and having Hart left on his hands at the moment. It is a cock up plain and simple.
And we have not begun to address Nasri, Yaya, and a fewer less but highly paid lights yet.
Woodward has had a few years and three new managers to achieve his level of incompetence but as I recall (and I don't bother much with what the rags do) I do not remember him with highly paid, unwanted players hanging around.
Yes, but he might not have been sure if he could get a replacement.When do you think they had the conversation that finally made it clear he could go? Because we've left the lad with 1 week to find a new club and the fact is most clubs don't leave it to the last minute to fill such an important role as keeper, so its not surprising there isn't much interest. A loan looks most likely now and without debating the rights and wrongs of not wanting him, really did Pep not know at least a month ago that Joe wasn't wanted??
While I agree it's not the most ideal situation, it's hardly the mess you make it out to be. I think the plans didn't quite work out ideally due to the delays in getting players back after the major international tournaments this year. We only need to shift a few guys and it isn't the worst thing in the world if Joe can't be moved. I still think Willy would be the easier of the 2 backups to move at the moment. Would rather see a path open for Angus Gunn then leave games to Willy if I'm being honest.
Your argument about contracts seems somewhat silly given that a longer term contract for a player usually increases their sell on value. It was reported (possibly falsely) that the club's hierarchy were caught off guard by Guardiola's decision to drop Hart so the length of his contract reflected what they thought of him at the time.
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It is a continuing cock up. Full stop, end of, finito
Pep knew. Joe knew. Joe's agent knew.When do you think they had the conversation that finally made it clear he could go? Because we've left the lad with 1 week to find a new club and the fact is most clubs don't leave it to the last minute to fill such an important role as keeper, so its not surprising there isn't much interest. A loan looks most likely now and without debating the rights and wrongs of not wanting him, really did Pep not know at least a month ago that Joe wasn't wanted??
So it's conicidence that Joe hasn't been officially allowed to leave until Bravo signed is it ?
What a stupid twat you are Txiki. Should have moved him on & left us with Willy plus Angus Gunn as out two keepers for the season in the event Bravo didn't pass the medical.
Now Woodward presiding over that, is realistic tbf.
Weren't you outed a week ago?Also read that it was Txiki, not Pep that has told him to leave as he believes the situation will be a distraction to everyone. If Pep is saying one thing and privately saying another, then that's a pretty shitty thing to do.
So you think all this fucking about is good management either at boardroom level or dressing room level?
Why take so long to sort out Bravo? Negotiations do not have to wait until the last minute or even until the window opens.
How's your mates Rooney and Bastian doing?
To paraphrase your earlier post, get a grip ffs.
Business is messy my friend.