PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Could be wrong, but I’m sure in previous interviews he’s said similar things to this time i.e. that he can’t say much at the moment, but that he’s looking forward to speaking openly once we have a verdict. Only difference this time was the use of the word “wonderful” when describing the sit down he’ll have with Chris Bailey. As others have said, I think he chooses his words carefully so that did seem significant but who knows if undue weight is being put on it.
The end of season review in 2023 he was naffed off and was saying he couldn't wait to give his blunt views about proceedings.
So different from the recent end of season video where he was happy, he was positive and looked completely chilled.

His demeanour on this vid was totally the opposite of the previous end of season videos.

Either he really knows it's the end game for the 115 or he is playing a blinder putting an act on.
 
Khaldoon didn't need to say anything about the case.
He has always said in past interviews he can't talk about it.
The fact that he looked confident and he said he will have a wonderful chat and sit down fills me with 200% confidence.

This guy is a high flyer, he doesn't need to say anything about us, he chose to say something, that speaks absolutely huge volumes.

Yet there are a few on here trying to pour cold water on what Khaldoon said which I don't understand at all.

I'm expecting more news dropping next week.
Well, new EPL fixtures released a week on Friday, 19th I think, so there’s a nice two week window for news - especially if it’s a day England are playing ;-)
 
I’m still of the opinion that the judgement will be out when it’s ready. Not before not after. Which means external influences like the close season have no bearing on the date. That means it could be tomorrow, next month, or next year. Obviously it’s been ages and feels due.
Thanks for that. A prime example of what's taken this thread to 6616 pages.

As for me, I think the verdict will come out sometime
 
Could be wrong, but I’m sure in previous interviews he’s said similar things to this time i.e. that he can’t say much at the moment, but that he’s looking forward to speaking openly once we have a verdict. Only difference this time was the use of the word “wonderful” when describing the sit down he’ll have with Chris Bailey. As others have said, I think he chooses his words carefully so that did seem significant but who knows if undue weight is being put on it.
No, your right he used that word for a reason. Sometimes 2+2 = 4, this is one of those times.
 
I don’t but when you involve lawyers charging per letter it can spiral. You can make it complex and you can make it succinct. The league chose 115 instead of 10.

Complexity v volume of information often overlaps depending on who the poster is on here. You could have 115 pieces of paper but only 1 is needed to prove or disprove fraud.

Some posters want to stress the complex nature of the case and others can see the straight line to fraud/not fraudulent based only on the information available.

Khaldoon can’t make it any clearer. If you don’t want to listen to the man at the epicentre of the storm then you have some sort of agenda.

Guarantee right now that we are cleared of the main charges. I don’t need to see an official document of any sort.
At last a voice of sanity (as far as I’m concerned)
 
@Prestwich_Blue
You have mentioned etihad being a related party a likely issue discussed during the case.

Etihad have sponsored us long before the charges started being looked at by the PL and they look at our books every year. Plus it's hardly a secret that they sponsor us.

Why did it take them so long to start to make an issue of it?

Couldn't that have been discussed and examined amicably when etihad first started sponsoring us?
Well it's not a new isssue actually. The question was raised in 2014 when we concluded the settlement with UEFA. Their accountants claimed Etihad and the other Abu Dhabi sponsors were related parties. Our auditors refuted that and it didn't get resolved either way.

It came up again at CAS, who said it wasn't in their scope to pass judgement on that question. But they did say in their judgement that if they were related parties and we hadn't reported that in our accounts then we may be guilty of misreporting. Hence why I believe it's part of the PL case.

So the issue has never been formally tested. The PL will have said why they think Etihad is an RP and, as I said in an earlier post, that will probably involve complex questions about:
  • the nature of relationships between members of the ruling family and state owned companies,
  • the amount of influence Sheikh Mansour has over the activities of those companies, even those he has no direct involvement with,
  • the international accounting standards relating to these,
  • expert witnesses from the world of accounting (including our own auditors probably).
So it's a complex issue certainly but that doesn't necessarily mean it will take a long time to hear the evidence. Whereas a relatively simple issue might require a while to present evidence and refutation.
 
I think when lawyers talk about complexity they see it through a particular prism. There are many different factors that can make a case complex for the lawyers. If you imagine a case where all the witnesses don't speak English and have to give evidence through an interpreter, that adds an element of complexity - for instance, does a familiar English legal concept have a direct equivalent in a jurisdiction governed by Sharia law? Are there nuances in the original evidence that are lost (or added) when it is translated into English? These add complexity to a case that in itself might be quite straightforward.

Then there is the simple value of the claim. A case that might be relatively straightforward in factual or legal terms may have an added layer of complexity simply because of the number of zeros on the claim form. The complexity arises simply because the stakes are so eye-wateringly high.

Then there is the volume of evidence. What again in factual or legal terms can be a relatively straightforward matter can become complex simply due to the vast amount of evidence or documentation. If you are seeking to infer dishonesty from a person's conduct, for instance - a simple enough concept - the complexity may come in trying to discern whether their motives are dishonest from a vast array of evidence about what they were doing and why.

Then there is legal complexity. For instance, in the 115 charges a number of legal issues arise which are not difficult concepts - eg limitation - but have to be considered within the context of a regulatory sphere, where their application may not be so straightforward. That adds another layer of complexity.

When you have a combination of factors such as the above, it becomes difficult to see a lengthy case as anything other than complex. This does not mean that when you boil it all down to its bare essentials, it doesn't reduce to some relatively straightforward factual or legal issues. But the tricky part - the complexity - is in boiling down a vast range of legal and factual issues to some relatively straightforward legal or factual questions.

Speaking for myself, I'd struggle to describe this many charges, with this much evidence, and this many legal issues, and this long a trial as anything other than complex. It doesn't mean that ultimately you can't reduce it to a simple question - did MCFC disguise owner investment as sponsorship - but you need to hack through a very dense jungle of evidence and documentation to get there.
Thank you Chris. I drafted my reply to another poster before I read this.

As you say, "complex" can mean different things. I've been immersed in the substantive issues for a few years now so tend to see them as standalone, fairly binary questions - did we disguise equity investment as revenue? These are not in themselves particularly challenging, certainly not as challenging as the things you deal with.

But it's the arguments over limitation periods, and how those apply (if they do apply) to this case that will be complex, particularly as they're implied, rather than explicit within the PL rules. We may have even challenged the ability of the PL to pursue this case, its motives for doing so, or the scope of its powers or investigation. We may have challenged the admissibility of various pieces of evidence. And that's before the panel even get to consider the substantive charges.

Without knowing in detail what those substantive charges are it's difficult to be sure but I suspect that, as standalone issues, they were possibly the less complex elements of the 10-week hearing.
 

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