Álvaro Negredo Sánchez (part two)

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PapiChulo said:
Negredo is average. I don't know why everyone , most of who have not seen him play really, desire this guy so much.
He's better than average. He always looks like scoring goals, instinctively knows where to be and what to do as a striker. He misses a few sitters and won't be dribbling around entire defences. I'm pretty sure Pellegrini and Txiki know exactly what they're getting with Negredo, between them they have a bit of experience of Spanish football. If he wasn't a good fit for the role they want him for and the way the team will play, they really wouldn't buy him.

I don't know why people have such a downer on this.
 
You can argue about defenders, midfielders and wingers, but a striker is judged by goals scored. His goals scored justifies the interest
 
pee dubya said:
PapiChulo said:
Negredo is average. I don't know why everyone , most of who have not seen him play really, desire this guy so much.
He always looks like scoring goals, instinctively knows where to be and what to do as a striker. He misses a few sitters and won't be dribbling around entire defences.

We should just keep hold of Dzeko then.
 
The Pope said:
pee dubya said:
PapiChulo said:
Negredo is average. I don't know why everyone , most of who have not seen him play really, desire this guy so much.
He always looks like scoring goals, instinctively knows where to be and what to do as a striker. He misses a few sitters and won't be dribbling around entire defences.

We should just keep hold of Dzeko then.
No negredo is a hard worker and has good movement. And dzeko attitude is appalling.
 
The Pope said:
pee dubya said:
PapiChulo said:
Negredo is average. I don't know why everyone , most of who have not seen him play really, desire this guy so much.
He always looks like scoring goals, instinctively knows where to be and what to do as a striker. He misses a few sitters and won't be dribbling around entire defences.

We should just keep hold of Dzeko then.
Aren't we?
 
Ireland_for_pm said:
The Pope said:
He always looks like scoring goals, instinctively knows where to be and what to do as a striker. He misses a few sitters and won't be dribbling around entire defences.

We should just keep hold of Dzeko then.
No negredo is a hard worker and has good movement. And dzeko attitude is appalling.

He might be more hard working but why has Dzeko not got good movement? He drags defenders with him, making gaps for others to exploit and gets in positions to score. And as a finisher Dzeko is the better marksman.
 
adrianr said:
PapiChulo said:
Negredo is average. I don't know why everyone , most of who have not seen him play really, desire this guy so much.

Because he has good numbers in the 'Goals' column on Wikipedia.


negredo is average why he play in the sevilla fc, if negredo do it the same in the real madrid, or barcelona, arsenal, etc.. etc..., he is one top class player, player first class, negredo has good numbers in the column of wikipedia because they have been won,the marked those goals against barcelona, valencia, real madrid, and goalkeepers have not let dial those goals can not be removed merit.

kun aguero scored in the spanish league less goals than negredo, in total, in some years

falcao this year scored in the la liga 20 goals + 8 goals of penalty


negredo this year scored in the la liga 21 goals + 4 goals of penalty



goals of penalty has merit?

21 goals negredo without penaltys

20 goals falcao without penaltys


if u believe what negredo is one average playe is u respect opinion, of course for me not

the negredo's goals have not been given gifts away, have their merit, not take it away, if you hate this player would understand, but not subtract merits


Nombre Goles Pie Cab Pen Falta
Messi (FCB) 45 38 0 4 3
Cristiano (RMA) 34 18 6 6 4
Falcao (ATM) 28 16 3 8 1
Negredo (SEV) 25 16 5 4 0
Soldado (VAL) 24 16 3 5 0
 
invincible said:
adrianr said:
PapiChulo said:
Negredo is average. I don't know why everyone , most of who have not seen him play really, desire this guy so much.

Because he has good numbers in the 'Goals' column on Wikipedia.


negredo is average why he play in the sevilla fc, if negredo do it the same in the real madrid, or barcelona, arsenal, etc.. etc..., he is one top class player, player first class, negredo has good numbers in the column of wikipedia because they have been won,the marked those goals against barcelona, valencia, real madrid, and goalkeepers have not let dial those goals can not be removed merit.

kun aguero scored in the spanish league less goals than negredo, in total, in some years

falcao this year scored in the la liga 20 goals + 8 goals of penalty


negredo this year scored in the la liga 21 goals + 4 goals of penalty



goals of penalty has merit?

21 goals negredo without penaltys

20 goals falcao without penaltys


if u believe what negredo is one average playe is u respect opinion, of course for me not

the negredo's goals have not been given gifts away, have their merit, not take it away, if you hate this player would understand, but not subtract merits


Nombre Goles Pie Cab Pen Falta
Messi (FCB) 45 38 0 4 3
Cristiano (RMA) 34 18 6 6 4
Falcao (ATM) 28 16 3 8 1
Negredo (SEV) 25 16 5 4 0
Soldado (VAL) 24 16 3 5 0

It was tongue in cheek mate ;) I don't really have an opinion on Negredo either way. Other than not really understanding why we need him if we'll be playing a 1 striker system with Dzeko staying and Guidetti being promoted.
 
thenabster said:
I have a question for the Negredo specialists, what happened to him in 2011-12?


he play only 30 games and scored 14 goals, not bads numbers

in this sesion play frederik kanoute also
 
invincible said:
thenabster said:
I have a question for the Negredo specialists, what happened to him in 2011-12?


he play only 30 games and scored 14 goals, not bads numbers

in this sesion play frederik kanoute also

True, so doesn't show that Negredo is a better forward when alone than with another strike partner? because it wasn't until this season that Kanoute left that Sevilla switched to a 4-3-2-1 nd he started banging in more goals?
 
thenabster said:
invincible said:
thenabster said:
I have a question for the Negredo specialists, what happened to him in 2011-12?


he play only 30 games and scored 14 goals, not bads numbers

in this sesion play frederik kanoute also

True, so doesn't show that Negredo is a better forward when alone than with another strike partner? because it wasn't until this season that Kanoute left that Sevilla switched to a 4-3-2-1 nd he started banging in more goals?



Very good. The old "when found out try to bluff your way out of of it" routine. You have no idea do you?

I don't know a lot about him either which is why I don't pretend to.
 
Selbyblue said:
thenabster said:
invincible said:
he play only 30 games and scored 14 goals, not bads numbers

in this sesion play frederik kanoute also

True, so doesn't show that Negredo is a better forward when alone than with another strike partner? because it wasn't until this season that Kanoute left that Sevilla switched to a 4-3-2-1 nd he started banging in more goals?

or that his strike partner for sevilla was a greedy kan oute!!


Very good. The old "when found out try to bluff your way out of of it" routine. You have no idea do you?

I don't know a lot about him either which is why I don't pretend to.
 
Selbyblue said:
thenabster said:
invincible said:
he play only 30 games and scored 14 goals, not bads numbers

in this sesion play frederik kanoute also

True, so doesn't show that Negredo is a better forward when alone than with another strike partner? because it wasn't until this season that Kanoute left that Sevilla switched to a 4-3-2-1 nd he started banging in more goals?



Very good. The old "when found out try to bluff your way out of of it" routine. You have no idea do you?

I don't know a lot about him either which is why I don't pretend to.

ahaha lol. I'm not really pretending to know or not know him. I've watched a good numbers of Sevilla games last year and throughout the years and I actually watched Negredo play when he was still at Real Madrid.

My position is that while Negredo is a very good striker and a better option than Osvaldo and co, as far as I'm concerned now and from what I know of him he is a downgrade from Cavani and Tevez, hasn't managed to break into a weak Spanish strike force, has never had a 30+ goal scoring season apart from this one and is 28.

Now I don't watch every single Sevilla game but I do watch a good number and Negredo in my opinion is a slightly faster Dzeko with a bit more first touch and some extra weight. He is leftie which is good but as I keep on saying, a winning team needs a person who can score 30-40+ goals a season e.g Ronaldo, Messi, Van Persie, Ibra etc and we absolutely need that so if we're counting on Negredo to be that, I'm skeptical.<br /><br />-- Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:35 pm --<br /><br />
Selbyblue said:
thenabster said:
invincible said:
he play only 30 games and scored 14 goals, not bads numbers

in this sesion play frederik kanoute also

True, so doesn't show that Negredo is a better forward when alone than with another strike partner? because it wasn't until this season that Kanoute left that Sevilla switched to a 4-3-2-1 nd he started banging in more goals?



Very good. The old "when found out try to bluff your way out of of it" routine. You have no idea do you?

I don't know a lot about him either which is why I don't pretend to.

Plus I don't change my position, I would rather get other strikers. Now if he comes, I'll be supporting him.
 
thenabster said:
invincible said:
thenabster said:
I have a question for the Negredo specialists, what happened to him in 2011-12?


he play only 30 games and scored 14 goals, not bads numbers

in this sesion play frederik kanoute also

True, so doesn't show that Negredo is a better forward when alone than with another strike partner? because it wasn't until this season that Kanoute left that Sevilla switched to a 4-3-2-1 nd he started banging in more goals?


dont exactly, negredo scored one goal for 2 games, frederick kanoute is a great striker, both scored the goals
 
invincible said:
thenabster said:
invincible said:
he play only 30 games and scored 14 goals, not bads numbers

in this sesion play frederik kanoute also

True, so doesn't show that Negredo is a better forward when alone than with another strike partner? because it wasn't until this season that Kanoute left that Sevilla switched to a 4-3-2-1 nd he started banging in more goals?


dont exactly, negredo scored one goal for 2 games, frederick kanoute is a great striker, both scored the goals

Are you a Sevilla fan or a liga fan in general?
 
thenabster said:
invincible said:
thenabster said:
True, so doesn't show that Negredo is a better forward when alone than with another strike partner? because it wasn't until this season that Kanoute left that Sevilla switched to a 4-3-2-1 nd he started banging in more goals?


dont exactly, negredo scored one goal for 2 games, frederick kanoute is a great striker, both scored the goals

Are you a Sevilla fan or a liga fan in general?

i live in sevilla, and i fan of sevilla, but i know la liga in general
 
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