“The work of God”?

[Brightwell’s left peg]

If you cannot agree with that and choose to ignore the bloodbath of atheism gripping 20th century nations, then that is your own problem with bias.

Humans are flawed because we choose to be, we can choose to be better and that’s why your God is just, he gives you the choice.

Back to bollocks again

My engagement with you on this thread hereby ends.

 

[Ban-jani]

Back to bollocks again

My engagement with you on this thread hereby ends.

Didn’t think you’d have a critical response to something so obviously blatant.

Enjoy your evening.

 

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There are around 10,000 religions in the world, not including all the old defunct ones. So at least 99.99% of these have got it wrong in what they believe, as they all can't be right. My guess is 100% of them have got it wrong. Every single on is man made mumbo-jumbo.

When there have been and are so many religions, you look at the roots of them all; and they all started with astronomy. The sky was ancient peoples’ televisions, cinemas and books. They looked up and had an entire sky of stories that were passed down over thousands of years. Stories moved around and were adapted from place-to-place.

Astronomy leads to astrology, astrology leads to religion.

Go back to the ancient religions; they all had sky gods, Sun gods, Moon goods, night, harvest, wine, afterlife, cloud, fertility, the seasons, the Solstices, Equinoxes, zodiac (and many more) gods and deities.

Monotheism made either the sky or Sun god the main god, or combined their traditional separate roles into one god, and banned (stoned to death anyone still worshipping the Sun or bowing to the East) Sun worship and polytheism to enslave or, at best, brainwash people into their religion as their religion grew and took over in that region.

Look at the wording in the Abrahamic religions, “the Sun” is interchangeable with words like “the light” or eventually “Jesus”. Everything the light or Jesus does relates to what the Sun does. The Sun has miracle birth, it dies with huge consequences to the world, it then rises from the dead, provides light, life, warmth, healing, with the growing of the light of days and the warmth of the year crops can be sown and sprout, food and wine is more abundant, animals are conceived and born. The Sun relates to the daytime or the Summer and the nighttime and winter is looked upon as death and evil. The Sun brings the light and takes us away from the darkness, it shows us the way. And the Sun was almost always the son of the sky god in more ancient religions, which is why he is the son of god in Christianity.

I had a CofE upbringing, at school (I wasn’t taken to church by my secular parents). However, I wised-up to not believing in miracles presented to me by the Bible when we read it, while still at Primary School age (around the same time I stopped believing in Father Christmas). I still celebrated Christmas as a tradition but, one Christmas, as an adult, I thought “why am I celebrating this still? I don’t believe in the miracle birth of a Christ!” And I’ve spent years looking at all this. I find it all really interesting, I think it’s a great topic to read about, but with every new bit of information I ever read from religions all around the world from throughout history, I’m increasingly convinced that every religion is simply about the Sun (or, more widely, astronomy). Now I feel my celebration of Christmas is more valid than it ever was when I was following Christianity as a child.

The first episode of Brian Cox’s Wonders Of The Solar System “Empire Of The Sun” (brilliant programme and series!) presents the Sun with such importance it’s what ancient peoples must have felt about the Sun. We take it’s importance (like many other things in our environment) for granted now but the Sun is what life is all about. No wonder the ancients placed so much importance on it. No wonder it was seen as a god, the god, or the descendent/son of god.

 

[Ban-jani]

When there have been and are so many religions, you look at the roots of them all; and they all started with astronomy. The sky was ancient peoples’ televisions, cinemas and books. They looked up and had an entire sky of stories that were passed down over thousands of years. Stories moved around and were adapted from place-to-place.

Astronomy leads to astrology, astrology leads to religion.

Go back to the ancient religions; they all had sky gods, Sun gods, Moon goods, night, harvest, wine, afterlife, cloud, fertility, the seasons, the Solstices, Equinoxes, zodiac (and many more) gods and deities.

Monotheism made either the sky or Sun god the main god, or combined their traditional separate roles into one god, and banned (stoned to death anyone still worshipping the Sun or bowing to the East) Sun worship and polytheism to enslave or, at best, brainwash people into their religion as their religion grew and took over in that region.

Look at the wording in the Abrahamic religions, “the Sun” is interchangeable with words like “the light” or eventually “Jesus”. Everything the light or Jesus does relates to what the Sun does. The Sun has miracle birth, it dies with huge consequences to the world, it then rises from the dead, provides light, life, warmth, healing, with the growing of the light of days and the warmth of the year crops can be sown and sprout, food and wine is more abundant, animals are conceived and born. The Sun relates to the daytime or the Summer and the nighttime and winter is looked upon as death and evil. The Sun brings the light and takes us away from the darkness, it shows us the way. And the Sun was almost always the son of the sky god in more ancient religions, which is why he is the son of god in Christianity.

I had a CofE upbringing, at school (I wasn’t taken to church by my secular parents). However, I wised-up to not believing in miracles presented to me by the Bible when we read it, while still at Primary School age (around the same time I stopped believing in Father Christmas). I still celebrated Christmas as a tradition but, one Christmas, as an adult, I thought “why am I celebrating this still? I don’t believe in the miracle birth of a Christ!” And I’ve spent years looking at all this. I find it all really interesting, I think it’s a great topic to read about, but with every new bit of information I ever read from religions all around the world from throughout history, I’m increasingly convinced that every religion is simply about the Sun (or, more widely, astronomy). Now I feel my celebration of Christmas is more valid than it ever was when I was following Christianity as a child.

The first episode of Brian Cox’s Wonders Of The Solar System “Empire Of The Sun” (brilliant programme and series!) presents the Sun with such importance it’s what ancient peoples must have felt about the Sun. We take it’s importance (like many other things in our environment) for granted now but the Sun is what life is all about. No wonder the ancients placed so much importance on it. No wonder it was seen as a god, the god, or the descendent/son of god.

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[tonea2003]

Would you mind expanding on this bit?

Not being difficult I just don’t know what you’re referring to?

i suppose the best way to describe it, is to compare acts and gospels with paul letters

in acts and gospels jesus is recalled by name and deeds
with paul its a bit more sketchy with no real detail as if hes just a heavenly image at this point
nothing about virgin birth, nothing about herod or star of bethlehem, no john the baptist, no miracles he supposed does
his teachings are from the lord not jesus
for someone who could of been around
its all a bit strange
not saying its conclusive just strange

 

[Ban-jani]

i suppose the best way to describe it, is to compare acts and gospels with paul letters

in acts and gospels jesus is recalled by name and deeds
with paul its a bit more sketchy with no real detail as if hes just a heavenly image at this point
nothing about virgin birth, nothing about herod or star of bethlehem, no john the baptist, no miracles he supposed does
his teachings are from the lord not jesus
for someone who could of been around
its all a bit strange
not saying its conclusive just strange

Well he’s not really trying to describe the life of Jesus, the context of his writing is totally different to the Gospels.

The letters are there to help church followers go in the right direction, they’re not a story of the life of Jesus, nor any sort of biography. If you read them they’re a little political also, and very much about what’s happening to the early Christians in the region.

When you read them it’s basically a letter to remind them of who Jesus is, the Lord and Saviour and to put trust in Him and how the church goers should live their lives, based on the scripture they’ve had.

If Paul was writing his own Gospel, I’d agree with you but he isn’t, he’s merely telling the church goers what they should do.

I think the fact he mentions Jesus’s healing of people and the fact he says was crucified and buried shows that he believes in Christ the man, rather than just a heavenly figure.

To have that before the Gospels were supposed to have been written and to mention “scripture”, in the 50’s AD, shows that people were writing about Christ well before the Gospels were compiled.

But yeah, to be clear, the reason he doesn’t talk about the Virgin Birth or cover Jesus’s life, is because that’s not the context. It’s just a letter to those that follow Paul’s teaching, telling them what to expect in the coming weeks and what they should do.

Here is the context-

First Corinthians 1 is the introduction to one of Paul's letter to the city of Corinth. As such, it contains Paul's usual greeting followed by a blessing and then the beginning of the body of the letter. The body starts out with the topic of divisions in the church, which apparently was becoming a problem in Corinth.

 

[tonea2003]

Well he’s not really trying to describe the life of Jesus, the context of his writing is totally different to the Gospels.

The letters are there to help church followers go in the right direction, they’re not a story of the life of Jesus, nor any sort of biography. If you read them they’re a little political also, and very much about what’s happening to the early Christians in the region.

When you read them it’s basically a letter to remind them of who Jesus is, the Lord and Saviour and to put trust in Him and how the church goers should live their lives, based on the scripture they’ve had.

If Paul was writing his own Gospel, I’d agree with you but he isn’t, he’s merely telling the church goers what they should do.

I think the fact he mentions Jesus’s healing of people and the fact he says was crucified and buried shows that he believes in Christ the man, rather than just a heavenly figure.

To have that before the Gospels were supposed to have been written and to mention “scripture”, in the 50’s AD, shows that people were writing about Christ well before the Gospels were compiled.

But yeah, to be clear, the reason he doesn’t talk about the Virgin Birth or cover Jesus’s life, is because that’s not the context. It’s just a letter to those that follow Paul’s teaching, telling them what to expect in the coming weeks and what they should do.

Here is the context-

i get the difference but fact he doesn't introduce the most significant person to him/you/Christians
in his writings who only just died a few earlier is just strange to me, paul to me is talking in prophecies rather than about the bloke who has just had nails whacked in him
mate i think we'll just after agree to disagree
the fact that a man may or may not have existed is a world away from whether it is divine
now where do we start........

 

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It’s not just Zeitgeist, which has many scientific inaccuracies in it. I believe in the gist of what Zeitgeist tried to look at, but it was done by amateurs who didn’t do enough reading and checking if their work before they released the film.

Even before the 1900s, the following authors had looked into this in the following books. Many finding the exact copies of the same gods and stories and historical events happening in other religions, in other parts of the world, even in the same parts of the world before Judaism and Christianity existed. Also many findings in historical events said to have happened in the Bible to be untrue:

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Baring-Gould (Rev. S.).	Curious Myths of the Middle Ages, by Rev. S. Baring-Gould, M. A. Boston: Roberts Bros., 1880.
——.	Legends of the Patriarchs and Prophets, and other Old Testament Characters, from various sources, by Rev. S. Baring-Gould, M. A. New York: Holt & Williams, 1872.
——.	The Origin and Development of Religious Belief, by S. Baring-Gould, M. A., in 2 vols. New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1870.
[Pg xii]Barnabas.	The General Epistle of Barnabas, a companion and fellow-preacher with Paul.
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Lillie (Arthur).	Buddha and Early Buddhism, by Arthur Lillie. London:Trübner & Co., 1881.
Lubbock (John).	Pre-historic Times, as Illustrated by Ancient Remains, and the Manners and Customs of Modern Savages, by Sir John Lubbock, F. R. S. London: Williams & Northgate, 1865.
Lundy (J. P.).	Monumental Christianity, or the Art and Symbolism of the Primitive Church as Witness and Teachers of the One Catholic Faith and Practice, by John P. Lundy, Presbyter. New York: J. W. Bouton, 1876.
Mahaffy (J. P.).	Prolegomena to Ancient History, by John P. Mahaffy, A. M., M. R. I. A., Fellow and Tutor in Trinity College, and Lecturer in Ancient History in the University of Dublin. London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1871.
Mallet.	Northern Antiquities; or an Historical Account of the Manners, Customs, Religion and Laws of the Ancient Scandinavians, by M. Mallet. Translated from the French by Bishop Percy. London: H. S. Bohn, 1847.
Marsh (Herbert).	A Course of Lectures, containing a Description and Systematic Arrangement of the several Branches of Divinity by Herbert Marsh, D. D. Cambridge: W. Hillard, 1812.
Mary (Apoc.).	The Gospel of the Birth of Mary, attributed to St. Matthew. Translated from the Works of St. Jerome.
Maurice (Thomas).	Indian Antiquities: or Dissertations on the Geographical Division, Theology, Laws, Government and Literature of Hindostan, compared with those of Persia, Egypt and Greece, by Thomas Maurice, in 6 vols. London: W. Richardson, 1794.
——.	The History of Hindostan; Its Arts and its Sciences, as connected with the History of the other Great Empires of Asia, during the most Ancient Periods of the World, in 2 vols., by Thomas Maurice. London: Printed by H. L. Galabin, 1798.
Maurice (F. D.).	The Religions of the World, and Their Relation to Christianity, by Frederick Denison Maurice, M. A., Professor of Divinity in Kings' College. London: J. W. Parker, 1847.
Middleton (C.).	The Miscellaneous Works of Conyers Middleton, D. D., Principal Librarian of the University of Cambridge, in 4 vols. ("Free Enquiry" vol. I., "Letters from Rome" vol. III.). London: Richard Manby, 1752.
Montfaucon (B.).	L'Antiquité Expliqueé; par Dom Bernard de Montfaucon. Second edit. Paris: 1722.
[Pg xix]Moor (Edward).	Plates illustrating the Hindoo Pantheon, reprinted from the work of Major Edward Moor, F. R. S., edited by Rev. Allen Moor, M. A. London: Williams & Norgate, 1816.
Morton (S. G.).	Types of Mankind: or Ethnological Researches based upon the Ancient Monuments, Paintings, Sculptures, and Crania of Races, by Samuel George Morton, M. D. Philadelphia: Lippincott, Grambo & Co., 1854.
Müller (Max).	A History of Ancient Sanscrit Literature, so far as it illustrates the Primitive Religion of the Brahmins, by Max Müller, M. A. London: Williams & Norgate, 1860.
——.	Introduction to the Science of Religion; Four Lectures delivered at the Royal Institution, with Two Essays on False Analogies, and the Philosophy of Mythology, by (F.) Max Müller, M. A. London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1873.
——.	Chips from a German Workshop; by Max Müller, M. A., in 3 vols. London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1876.
——.	Lectures on the Origin and Growth of Religion, as Illustrated by the Religious of India. Delivered in the Chapel House, Westminster Abbey, by (F.) Max Müller, M. A. London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1878.
Murray (A. S.).	Manual of Mythology, by Alexander S. Murray, Department of Greek and Roman Antiquities, British Museum, 2d Edit. New York: Armstrong & Co., 1876.
Nicodemus (Apoc.).	The Gospel of Nicodemus the Disciple, concerning the Sufferings and Resurrection of Our Master and Saviour Jesus Christ.
Oort (H.).	The Bible for Learners, by Dr. H. Oort, Prof. of Oriental Languages, &c., at Amsterdam, and Dr. I. Hooykaas, pastor at Rotterdam, with the assistance of Dr. A. Kunen, Prof. of Theology at Leiden, in 3 vols. Translated from the Dutch by Philip A. Wicksteed, M. A. Boston: Roberts Bros., 1878.
Orton (James).	The Andes and the Amazon; or Across the Continent of South America, by James Orton, M. A., 3d Edit. New York: Harper & Bros., 1876.
Owen (Richard).	Man's Earliest History, an Address delivered before the International Congress of Orientalists, by Prof. Richard Owen. Tribune Extra, No. 23. New York Tribune Pub. Co., 1874.
Peschel (Oscar).	The Races of Man, and their Geographical Distribution from the German of Oscar Peschel. New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1876.
[Pg xx]Polycarp.	The Epistle of Polycarp to the Philippians, translated by Archbishop Wake.
Porter (Sir R. K.).	Travels in Georgia, Persia, Armenia, Ancient Babylonia, &c., by Sir Robert Kir Porter, in 2 vols. London: Longmans, Hurst, Rees, Orm & Brown, 1821.
Prescott (Wm. H.).	History of the Conquest of Mexico, with a preliminary view of the Ancient Mexican Civilization, and the life of the conqueror, Hernando Cortez, by Wm. H. Prescott, in 3 vols. Philadelphia: J. P. Lippincott & Co., 1873.
Prichard (J. C.).	An Analysis of the Historical Records of Ancient Egypt, by J. C. Prichard, M. D., F. R. S. London: Sherwood, Gilbert & Piper, 1838.
——.	An Analysis of Egyptian Mythology, and the Philosophy of the Ancient Egyptians, compared with those of the Indians and others, by J. C. Prichard, M. D., F. R. S. London: Sherwood, Gilbert & Piper, 1838.
Priestley (Joseph).	A Comparison of the Institutions of Moses with those of the Hindoos and other Ancient Nations, by Joseph Priestley, LL. D., F. R. S. Northumberland: A. Kennedy, 1799.
Protevangelion Apoc.	The Protevangelion, or, An Historical Account of the Birth of Christ, and the perpetual Virgin Mary, His Mother, by James the Lesser, Cousin and Brother to the Lord Jesus.
Reber (Geo.).	The Christ of Paul, or the Enigmas of Christianity, by Geo. Reber. New York: C. P. Somerby, 1876.
Renan (Ernest).	Lectures on the Influence of the Institutions, Thought and Culture of Rome on Christianity, and the Development of the Catholic Church, by Ernest Renan, of the French Academy. Translated by Charles Beard, B. A. London: Williams & Norgate, 1880.
Renouf (P. Le Page).	Lectures on the Origin and Growth of Religion as Illustrated by the Religion of Ancient Egypt, by P. Le Page Renouf. London: Williams & Norgate, 1880.
Reville (Albert).	History of the Dogma of the Deity of Jesus Christ, by Albert Reville. London: Williams & Norgate, 1870.
Rhys-Davids (T. W.)	Buddhism: Being a Sketch of the Life and Teachings of Gautama, the Buddha, by T. W. Rhys-Davids, of the Middle Temple, Barrister-at-Law, and late of the Ceylon Civil Service. London: Soc. for Promoting Christian Knowledge.
Scott (Thomas).	The English Life of Jesus, by Thomas Scott. Published by the Author. London: 1872.
Septchenes (M. Le Clerc de).	The Religion of the Ancient Greeks, Illustrated by an Explanation of their Mythology. Translated from the French of M. Le Clerc de Septchenes. London: 1788.
[Pg xxi]Sharpe (Samuel).	Egyptian Mythology and Egyptian Christianity, with their Influence on the Opinions of Modern Christendom, by Samuel Sharpe. London: J. R. Smith, 1863.
Shih-king (The).	The Shih-King, or Book of Poetry. Translated from the Chinese by James Legge. London: Macmillan & Co., 1879.
Shobeil (F.).	Persia; containing a description of the Country, with an account of its Government, Laws, and Religion, by Frederick Shobeil. Philadelphia: John Grigg, 1828.
Smith.	Smith's Comprehensive Dictionary of the Bible, with many important Additions and Improvements. Edited by Rev. Samuel Barnum. New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1879.
Smith (George).	Assyrian Discoveries: An account of Explorations and Discoveries on the Site of Nineveh during 1873 and 1874, by George Smith, of the Department of Oriental Antiquity, British Museum. Now York: Scribner, Armstrong & Co., 1875.
——.	The Chaldean Account of Genesis, containing the description of the Creation, the Fall of Man, the Deluge, the Tower of Babel, the Times of the Patriarchs and Nimrod; Babylonian Fables, and Legends of the Gods, from the Cuneiform Inscriptions, by George Smith, of the British Museum. New York: Scribner, Armstrong & Co., 1876.
Socrates.	The Ancient Ecclesiastical History of Socrates Scholasticus, of Constantinople, in Seven Books. Translated out of the Greek Tongue by Meredith Hanmer, D. D. London: George Miller, 1636.
Spencer (Herbert).	The Principles of Sociology, by Herbert Spencer, in 2 vols. New York; D. Appleton & Co., 1877.
Squire (E. G.).	The Serpent Symbol, and the Worship of the Reciprocal Principles of Nature in America, by E. G. Squire, A. M. New York: George P. Putnam, 1861.
Stanley (A. P.).	Lectures on the History of the Jewish Church, by Arthur P. Stanley, D. D., Dean of Westminster. New York: Charles Scribner, 1863.
——.	In a Sermon preached in Westminster Abbey on February 28th, 1880, after the funeral of Sir Charles Lyell, entitled: "The Religious Aspect of Geology."
Steinthal (H.).	The Legend of Samson: An Essay, by H. Steinthal, Professor of the University of Berlin. Appendix to Goldzhier's Hebrew Mythology.
Synchronology.	Synchronology of the Principal Events in Sacred and Profane History from the Creation to the Present Time. Boston: S. Hawes, 1870.
[Pg xxii]Tacitus (C.).	The Annals of Cornelius Tacitus, the Roman Historian. Translated by Arthur Murphy, Esq. London: Jones & Co., 1831.
——.	The History of Cornelius Tacitus. Translated by Arthur Murphy. London: Jones & Co., 1831.
——.	Treatise on the Situation, Manners, and People of Germany, by Cornelius Tacitus. Translated by Arthur Murphy. London: Jones & Co., 1831.
Taylor (Charles).	Taylor's Fragments: Being Illustrations of the Manners, Incidents, and Phraseology of the Holy Scriptures. Intended as an Appendix to Calmet's Dictionary of the Bible. London: W. Stratford, 1801.
Taylor (Robert).	The Diegesis: Being a Discovery of the Origin, Evidences, and Early History of Christianity, by Rev. Robert Taylor, A. B. (From the London Edit.) Boston: J. P. Mendum, 1873.
——.	Syntagma of the evidences of the Christian Religion, by Rev. Robert Taylor, A. B., with a brief Memoir of the Author. (From the London Edit.) Boston: J. P. Mendum, 1876.
Taylor (Thomas).	Taylor's Mysteries; A Dissertation on the Eleusinian and Bacchic Mysteries, by Thomas Taylor. Amsterdam.
Thornton (Thomas).	A History of China, from the Earliest Records to the Treaty with Great Britain in 1842, by Thomas Thornton, Esq., Member of the R. A. S. London: William H. Allen & Co., 1844.
Tylor (E. B.).	Researches Into the Early History of Mankind, and the Development of Civilization, by Edward B. Tylor. 2d Edit. London: John Murray, 1870.
——.	Primitive Culture; Researches into the Development of Mythology, Philosophy, Religion, &c., by Edward B. Tylor, in 2 vols. London: John Murray, 1871.
Vishnu Purana.	The Vishnu Purana, A System of Hindoo Mythology and Tradition, Translated from the Original Sanscrit, by H. H. Wilson, M. A., F. R. S. London: 1840.
Volney (C. F.).	New Researches in Ancient History, Translated from the French of C. F. Volney, Count and Peer of France. (From the London Edit.) Boston: J. P. Mendum, 1874.
——.	The Ruins; or, Meditations on the Revolutions of Empires, by Count de Volney, Translated under the immediate inspection of the Author. (From the latest Paris Edit.) Boston: J. P. Mendum, 1872.
Wake (C. S.).	See Westropp.
Westropp (H. M.).	Ancient Symbol Worship. Influence of the Phallic Ideas in the Religions of Antiquity, by Hodder M. Westropp [Pg xxiii]and C. S. Wake, with Appendix by Alexander Wilder, M. D. London: Trübner & Co., 1874.
Williams (Monier).	Indian Wisdom; or Examples of the Religious, Philosophical, and Ethnical Doctrines of the Hindoos, by Monier Williams, M. A., Prof. of Sanscrit in the University of Oxford. London: W. H. Allen, 1875.
——.	Hinduism; by Monier Williams, M. A., D. C. L., Published under the Direction of the Committee of General Literature and Education Appointed by the Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge. London: 1877.
Wisdom (Apoc.).	The Book of Wisdom, Attributed to Solomon, King of Israel.
Wise (Isaac M.).	The Martyrdom of Jesus of Nazareth. A Historic Treatise on the Last Chapters of the Gospel, by Dr Isaac M. Wise. Cincinnati.

The further you delve into all this, the further you go back, the less believable the Abrahmic religions are. The furthest back you can go, the more you see places like Stonehenge and Stones of Stennes, even Gobeckli Tepe, thousands and thousands of years ago, they are all lined up to the Sun’s movement. It’s no coincidence.

 

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Saul was a **** and a charlatan whp used jesus newly found legend and myth to corrupt whatever the original cult of christ was doing.

Coming out with some bollocks about jesus talking to him and him converting hom to tge rightous path.. fuck off, thats the same guff evangeilac and born again ministers usw now to con cash out of people (especially in the US)

He marginalised womens roles in the early religion and introduced the suppression of thier role, voice and worth, which has been a societal issue before qmd since but legitimised by the man.
He was the first to openly be homophobic amd make it a sin in the eyes of christ.
He also rejected the notion that Judaism and being Jewish or respectful observants of jewish traditions was necessary, some believe this helped legitimise the then persecution amd ostrication of jews around the HRE.

He wrote most od the doctorines christians followed, in all honesty christians follow the teachings amd rules of St Paul rather that Jesus

He appropriated a religious sect and made it his own.

 

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It’s not just Zeitgeist, which has many scientific inaccuracies in it. I believe in the gist of what Zeitgeist tried to look at, but it was done by amateurs who didn’t do enough reading and checking if their work before they released the film.

Even before the 1900s, the following authors had looked into this in the following books. Many finding the exact copies of the same gods and stories and historical events happening in other religions, in other parts of the world, even in the same parts of the world before Judaism and Christianity existed. Also many findings in historical events said to have happened in the Bible to be untrue:

Abbot (Lyman).	A Dictionary of Religious Knowledge, for Popular and Professional Use; comprising full information on Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Subjects. Edited by Rev. Lyman Abbott, assisted by Rev. T. J. Conant, D. D. New York: Harper & Bros., 1880.
Acosta (Rev. Joseph De).	The Natural and Moral History of the Indies, by Father Joseph De Acosta. Translated by Edward Grimston. London: 1604.
Æschylus.	The Poems of Æschylus. Translated by the Rev. R. Potter, M. A. New York: Harper & Bros., 1836.
Allen (Rev. D. O.).	India, Ancient and Modern, by David O. Allen, D. D., Missionary of the American Board for twenty-five years in India. London: Trübner & Co., 1856.
Amberly (Viscount).	An Analysis of Religious Belief, by Viscount Amberly, from the late London Edition. New York: D. M. Bennett, 1879.
Asiatic Researches.	Asiatic Researches, or Transactions of the Society instituted in Bengal, for inquiring in the History and Antiquities, the Arts, Sciences, and Literature of Asia. London: J. Swain, 1801.
Baring-Gould (Rev. S.).	Curious Myths of the Middle Ages, by Rev. S. Baring-Gould, M. A. Boston: Roberts Bros., 1880.
——.	Legends of the Patriarchs and Prophets, and other Old Testament Characters, from various sources, by Rev. S. Baring-Gould, M. A. New York: Holt & Williams, 1872.
——.	The Origin and Development of Religious Belief, by S. Baring-Gould, M. A., in 2 vols. New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1870.
[Pg xii]Barnabas.	The General Epistle of Barnabas, a companion and fellow-preacher with Paul.
Barnes (Albert).	Notes, Explanatory and Practical, on the Gospels, by Rev. Albert Barnes, in 2 vols. New York: Harper & Bros., 1860.
Beal (Samuel).	The Romantic Legend of Sâkya Buddha, from the Chinese Sanscrit (being a translation of the Fo-pen-hing), by Samuel Beal. London: Trübner & Co., 1875.
Bell (J.).	Bell's New Pantheon, or Historical Dictionary of the Gods, Demi-Gods, Heroes, and Fabulous Personages of Antiquity; also of the Images and Idols, adored in the Pagan World, together with their Temples, Priests, Altars, Oracles, Fasts, Festivals, &c., in 2 vols. London: J. Bell, 1790.
Bhagavat-Geeta.	The Bhagavat-Geeta, or Dialogues of Crishna and Arjoon, in 18 Lectures, with notes. Translated from the original Sanscrit by Charles Wilkes. London: C. Nourse, 1785.
Blavatsky (H. P.).	Isis Unveiled: A Master Key to the Mysteries of Ancient and Modern Science and Theology, by H. P. Blavatsky,in 2 vols. New York: J. W. Bouton, 1877.
Bonwick (James).	Egyptian Belief and Modern Thought, by James Bonwick, F. R. G. S. London: C. Kegan Paul & Co., 1878.
Brinton (Daniel).	The Myths of the New World: A Treatise on the Symbolism and Mythology of the Red Race of America, by Daniel Brinton, A. M., M. D. New York: L. Holt & Co., 1868.
Britannica (Encyclo.).	The Encyclopædia Britannica, Ninth Edition.
Buckley (T. A.).	The Great Cities of the Ancient World, in their Glory and their Desolation, by Theodore A. Buckley, M. A. London: G. Routledge & Co., 1852.
Bulfinch (Thomas).	The Age of Fable, or Beauties of Mythology, by Thomas Bulfinch. Boston: J. E. Tilton & Co., 1870.
Bunce (John T.).	Fairy Tales: Their Origin and Meaning, with some account of Dwellers in Fairy-land, by John Thackary Bunce. New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1878.
Bunsen (Ernest de).	The Keys of St. Peter, or the House of Rochab, connected with the History of Symbolism and Idolatry, by Ernest de Bunsen. London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1867.
——.	The Angel-Messiah of Buddhists, Essenes, and Christians, by Ernest de Bunsen. London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1880.
——.	The Chronology of the Bible, connected with contemporaneous events in the history of Babylonians, Assyrians, and Egyptians, by Ernest de Bunsen. London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1874.
[Pg xiii]Calmet.	Calmet's Dictionary of the Holy Bible (Taylor's). London: 1798.
Chadwick (J. W.).	The Bible of To-day: A Course of Lectures by John W. Chadwick, Minister of the Second Unitarian Church in Brooklyn, N. Y. New York: G. P. Putnam & Sons, 1878.
Chambers.	Chambers' Encyclopædia: A Dictionary of Universal Knowledge for the People. American Revised Edition. Philadelphia: J. Lippincott & Co., 1877.
Champollion (M.).	Précis du système Hiéroglyphique des Anciens Égyptiens ou recherches sur les élémens premiers dec ette ecriture sacrée, &c., par M. Champollion Le Jeune. Seconde Edit. Paris: 1828.
Child (L. M.).	The Progress of Religious Ideas through Successive Ages, by L. Maria Child, in 3 vols. New York: C. S. Francis & Co., 1855.
Clement.	The First Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians.
Colenso (Rev. J. W.).	The Pentateuch and Book of Joshua critically examined, by the Right Rev. John William Colenso, D. D., Bishop of Natal. London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1863.
——.	Lectures on the Pentateuch and Moabite Stone, by the Right Rev. John William Colenso, D. D., Bishop of Natal. London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1873.
Constantine (The Emperor).	The Emperor Constantine's Oration to the Holy Congregation of the Clergy. London: Thos. Coates, 1637.
Conway (M. D.).	The Sacred Anthology: A Book of Ethnical Scriptures, collated and edited by Moncure D. Conway. London: Trübner & Co., 1874.
Cory.	Cory's Ancient Fragments of the Phenician, Carthagenian, Babylonian, Egyptian, and other Authors. A new and enlarged edition, carefully revised by E. Richard Hodges, M. C. P. London: Reeves & Turner, 1876.
Coulanges (F. de).	The Ancient City: A Study on the Religion, Laws, and Institutions of Greece and Rome, by Fustel de Coulanges. Translated from the latest French Edition by Williard Small. Boston: Lee & Shepherd, 1874.
Cox (Rev. G. W.).	The Myths of the Aryan Nations, by George W. Cox, M. A., late Scholar of Trinity, Oxford, in 2 vols. London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1870.
——.	Tales of Ancient Greece, by Rev. George W. Cox, M. A., Bart. London: C. Kegan Paul & Co., 1880.
Darwin (Charles).	Journal of Researches into the Natural History and Geology of the Countries visited during the Voyage of H. M. S. Beagle Round the World, by Charles Darwin, M. A., F. R. S. 2d Edit. London: John Murray, 1845.
——.	The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex, by [Pg xiv]Charles Darwin, M. A. New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1876.
Davies (Edward).	The Myths and Rites of the British Druids compared with Customs and Traditions of Heathen Nations, by Edward Davies, Rector of Brampton. London: J. Booth, 1809.
Davis (J. F.).	The Chinese: A General Description of the Empire of China and its Inhabitants, by John Francis Davis, Esq. F. R. S., in 2 vols. New York: Harper Bros., 1836.
Delitch (F.).	See Keil (C. F.).
Dillaway (C. K.).	Roman Antiquities and Ancient Mythology, by Charles K. Dillaway. Boston: Gould, Kendall & Lincoln, 1840.
Draper (J. W.).	History of the Conflict between Religion and Science, by John W. Draper, M. D. 8th Edit. New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1876.
Dunlap (S. F.).	Vestiges of the Spirit History of Man, by S. F. Dunlap, Member of the American Oriental Soc., New Haven. New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1858.
——.	The Mysteries of Adoni, by S. F. Dunlap London: Williams & Northgate, 1861.
——.	Sōd, the Son of the Man, by S. F. Dunlap. London: Williams & Northgate, 1861.
Dupuis.	The Origin of all Religious Worship, translated from the French of Mons. Dupuis. New Orleans: 1872.
Eusebius.	The Life of Constantine, in Four Books, by Eusebius Pamphilius, Bishop of Cesarea. London: Thomas Coates, 1637.
——.	The Ancient Ecclesiastical History of Eusebius Pamphilius, Bishop of Cesarea in Palestine, in Ten Books. London: George Miller, 1636.
Farrar (F. W.).	The Life of Christ, by Frederick W. Farrar, D. D., F. R. S., late Fellow of Trinity College, Cambridge. Albany: Rufus Wendell, 1876.
Fergusson (James).	Tree and Serpent Worship, or Illustrations of Mythology and Art in India, by James Fergusson. London: 1868.
Fiske (John).	Myths and Myth-Makers; Old Tales and Superstitions Interpreted by Comparative Mythology, by John Fiske, M. A., LL. B., Harvard University. Boston: J. R. Osgood & Co., 1877.
Frothingham (O. B.).	The Cradle of the Christ: A Study in Primitive Christianity, by Octavius Brooks Frothingham. New York: G. P. Putnam & Sons, 1877.
Gaugooly (J. C.).	Life and Religion of the Hindoos, by Joguth Chunder Gaugooly. Boston: Crosby, Nichols & Co., 1860.
Geikie (C.)	The Life and Words of Christ, by Cunningham Geikie, D. D., in 2 vols. New York: D. Appleton & Co, 1880.
[Pg xv]Gerbet (L'Abbé).	The Lily of Israel, or the life of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God. From the French of the Abbé Gerbet New York: P. J. Kennedy, 1878.
Gibbon (Edward).	The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, by Edward Gibbon, Esq., in 6 vols. Philadelphia: Claxton, Remsen & Hoffelfinger, 1876.
Giles.	Hebrew and Christian Records: An Historical Enquiry concerning the Age and Authorship of the Old and New Testaments, by the Rev. Dr. Giles, in 2 vols. London: Trübner & Co., 1877.
Ginsburgh (C. D.)	The Essenes: Their History and Doctrines; an Essay, by Charles D. Ginsburgh. London: Longman, Green, Roberts & Green, 1864.
Goldzhier (I.).	Mythology among the Hebrews, and its Historical Development, by Ignaz Goldzhier, Ph. D., Member of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences. Translated from the German by Russel Martineau. London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1877.
Gori.	Etrurische Alterthümer. Mürnburg: G. Lichtensleger, 1770.
Greg (W. R.).	The Creed of Christendom: Its Foundations contrasted with its Superstructure, by William Rathbone Greg. Detroit: Rose-Belford Pub. Co., 1878.
Gross (J. B.).	The Heathen Religion in its Popular and Symbolical Development, by Rev. Joseph B. Gross. Boston; J. P. Jewett & Co., 1856.
Gutzlaff.	The Journal of Two Voyages along the Coast of China (in 1831-2), and Remarks on the Policy, Religion, &c., of China, by the Rev. Mr. Gutzlaff. New York: John P. Haven, 1833.
Hardy (R. S.).	The Legends and Theories of the Buddhists compared with History and Science, with Introductory Notices of the Life of Gautama Buddha, by R. Spence Hardy, Hon. M. R. A. S. London: Williams & Northgate, 1866.
——.	Eastern Monachism: An Account of the Origin, Laws, Discipline, &c., of the Order of Mendicants founded by Gautama Buddha, by R. Spence Hardy. London: Williams & Northgate, 1860.
——.	A Manual of Buddhism in its Modern Development.Translated from the Singalese MSS. by R. S. Hardy. London: Williams & Northgate, 1860.
Hermas.	The First Book of Hermas, Brother of Pius, Bishop of Rome, which is called his Vision.
Herodotus.	The History of Herodotus, the Greek Historian: A New and Literal Version, from the Text of Baehr, by Henry Cary, M. A. New York: Harper & Bros., 1871.
[Pg xvi]Higgins (Godfrey).	The Celtic Druids, by Godfrey Higgins, Esq., F. R. A. S. London: Hunter & Co., 1827.
——.	Anacalypsis: An Enquiry into the Origin of Languages, Nations, and Religions, by Godfrey Higgins, Esq., F. R. S., F. R. A. S., in 2 vols. London: Longman, Rees,Orne, Brown & Longman.
Hooykaas (I.).	See Oort (H.).
Huc (L'Abbé).	Christianity in China, Tartary and Thibet, by M. L'Abbé Huc, formerly Missionary Apostolic in China, in 2 vols. London: Longman, Brown & Co., 1857.
Humboldt (A. de).	Researches concerning the Institutions and Monuments of the Ancient Inhabitants of Mexico, by Alexander de Humboldt, in 2 vols. (Translated by Helen Maria Williams.) London: Longman, Rees & Co., 1814.
——.	Political Essay on the Kingdom of New Spain, by Alexander de Humboldt, in 2 vols. (Translated by John Black.) London: Longman, Hurst & Co., 1822.
Hume (David).	Essays and Treaties on Various Subjects, by David Hume (author of Hume's History of England). Boston: From the London Edit. J. P. Mendum.
Huxley (T. H.).	Evidence as to Man's Place in Nature, by Thomas H. Huxley, F. R. S., F. L. S. New York: D. Appleton & Co., 1873.
Ignatius.	The Epistle of Ignatius, Bishop of Antioch in Syria, to the Ephesians.
——.	The Epistle of Ignatius to the Magnesians.
——.	The Epistle of Ignatius to the Trallians.
——.	The Epistle of Ignatius to the Philadelphians.
Infancy (Apoc.).	The Gospel of the Infancy of Jesus Christ (Apocryphal).
Inman (Thomas).	Ancient Pagan and Modern Christian Symbolism Exposed and Explained, by Thomas Inman, M. D., Physician to the Royal Infirmary, &c. London: 1869.
——.	Ancient Faiths Embodied in Ancient Names, or An Attempt to Trace the Religious Belief, Sacred Rites, and Holy Emblems of certain Nations, by Thomas Inman, M. D. London: Trübner & Co., 1872.
——.	Ancient Faiths and Modern: A Dissertation upon Worship, Legends, and Divinities in Central and Western Asia, Europe, and Elsewhere, before the Christian Era, by Thomas Inman, M. D. London: Trübner & Co. 1876.
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The further you delve into all this, the further you go back, the less believable the Abrahmic religions are. The furthest back you can go, the more you see places like Stonehenge and Stones of Stennes, even Gobeckli Tepe, thousands and thousands of years ago, they are all lined up to the Sun’s movement. It’s no coincidence.

Well that should keep him quiet for a while..