One of those 2 middle players has to play next to Rodri in the middle. Lewis is a great candidate for this and is great in between the lines.He was much more involved in the second half playing more centrally.
Those 4 behind Erling are now on Pep to combine:
Doku-Jack-KdB-Bobb
Jack-Phil-KdB-Bernardo
Phil-Bernardo-Bobb-Savio
Doku-Bernardo-KdB-Bobb
It is literally Pep’s wet dream and I really hop he doesn’t make a overthinking brain fahrt out of it playing Rico on those positions :)
I think that Rodri will get support from the defensive line. Stones or AkanjiOne of those 2 middle players has to play next to Rodri in the middle. Lewis is a great candidate for this and is great in between the lines.
Your first 2 line ups dont work for that reason, unless Jack or Phil sits deep next to Rodri when we defend.
Thats in possession.I think that Rodri will get support from the defensive line. Stones or Akanji
Unless the team we play against break the lines, we defend with almost 10man.Thats in possession.
Im saying in rest defense.
Thats what I was saying, they have to partner Rodri in the middle.Unless the team we play against break the lines, we defend with almost 10man.
Gundo played behind Erling and he was also the partner for Rodri. The same I expect from Jack.
Hope it does not happen.Love to see him given a chance in the middle of the park, but no sign Pep thinks the same.
I agree with most of that. Jack is a superb asset in those tight games against the best opposition when we need to keep the ball. His best performances have been in away European matches when we are under pressure. He is not particularly creative at breaking down defences when we are on top. He is not a David Silva or KDB but that doesn't mean he will not be important for us this season.I find it quite strange to suggest Jack in our creative mid when we have seen hundreds of times what he does when he turns inside:
he doesn't have his head up to screen the pitch 360,
he can't decide quick enough to pass or to shoot,
he isn't aggressive enough to get into the box as he doesn't trust his own finish or
he runs across the field or back to defence with no impact to then do a 5 yard pass and stroll back to where he came from.
Pep must have seen it in training a thousand times.
He doesn't have the vision nor the quick decision making you need in a tighter mid vs deep sitting and pressing teams. We know all that. He cannot change anymore, it's not realistic to set your hope on that.
He will have to do what no other winger for us can do to keep his minutes up:
use his strong body, play with high work rate and high control at the same time. Those are his assets and he should focus exactly on that. We have seen how good and important he is when he does that. We have others to score.
Then it is up to Pep to find a way to make him more useful (or develop some other aspects etc) in those games against avg teams if it is the plan. Because it is not realistic to only use him against big teams at the end of the season - impossible for him to keep rhythm and impossible for teammates to build understanding and passing habits. It needs time for the backline to adjust to how to operate with a controlling winger - if it is the role.I agree with most of that. Jack is a superb asset in those tight games against the best opposition when we need to keep the ball. His best performances have been in away European matches when we are under pressure. He is not particularly creative at breaking down defences when we are on top. He is not a David Silva or KDB but that doesn't mean he will not be important for us this season.
Perhaps encouragingly for futute endeavours, the left-back in all the games you listed was Gvardiol. Maybe there's an understanding developing there.Then it is up to Pep to find a way to make him more useful (or develop some other aspects etc) in those games against avg teams if it is the plan. Because it is not realistic to only use him against big teams at the end of the season - impossible for him to keep rhythm and impossible for teammates to build understanding and passing habits. It needs time for the backline to adjust to how to operate with a controlling winger - if it is the role.
However I find it might not always be the case. Grealish played best against Real, Utd and Crystal Palace last season. Among them Utd and Palace played quite defensively. It is difficult to find a team sitting deeper than palace. And he was somehow more creative than ever against them. Sheffield Utd another similar case. When they were on their front foot Grealish was avg but when they retreated he suddenly became dangerous. So I think that it might not really a low block thing but more down to form tactics teammates or formation etc.
So what options do we have? Use him as a fullback?I find it quite strange to suggest Jack in our creative mid when we have seen hundreds of times what he does when he turns inside:
he doesn't have his head up to screen the pitch 360,
he can't decide quick enough to pass or to shoot,
he isn't aggressive enough to get into the box as he doesn't trust his own finish or
he runs across the field or back to defence with no impact to then do a 5 yard pass and stroll back to where he came from.
Pep must have seen it in training a thousand times.
He doesn't have the vision nor the quick decision making you need in a tighter mid vs deep sitting and pressing teams. We know all that. He cannot change anymore, it's not realistic to set your hope on that.
He will have to do what no other winger for us can do to keep his minutes up:
use his strong body, play with high work rate and high control at the same time. Those are his assets and he should focus exactly on that. We have seen how good and important he is when he does that. We have others to score.
He also played very well away at Copenhagen until he was injured.Then it is up to Pep to find a way to make him more useful (or develop some other aspects etc) in those games against avg teams if it is the plan. Because it is not realistic to only use him against big teams at the end of the season - impossible for him to keep rhythm and impossible for teammates to build understanding and passing habits. It needs time for the backline to adjust to how to operate with a controlling winger - if it is the role.
However I find it might not always be the case. Grealish played best against Real, Utd and Crystal Palace last season. Among them Utd and Palace played quite defensively. It is difficult to find a team sitting deeper than palace. And he was somehow more creative than ever against them. Sheffield Utd another similar case. When they were on their front foot Grealish was avg but when they retreated he suddenly became dangerous. So I think that it might not really a low block thing but more down to form tactics teammates or formation etc.
Gvardiol was subbed off at halftime in that Palace game, one of his worst performances for city, akanji played left back second half and was excellent.Perhaps encouragingly for futute endeavours, the left-back in all the games you listed was Gvardiol. Maybe there's an understanding developing there.
And yet Pep, the greatest manager in this history of the game; has continued to select him over the last few years when he's fit.I find it quite strange to suggest Jack in our creative mid when we have seen hundreds of times what he does when he turns inside:
he doesn't have his head up to screen the pitch 360,
he can't decide quick enough to pass or to shoot,
he isn't aggressive enough to get into the box as he doesn't trust his own finish or
he runs across the field or back to defence with no impact to then do a 5 yard pass and stroll back to where he came from.
Pep must have seen it in training a thousand times.
He doesn't have the vision nor the quick decision making you need in a tighter mid vs deep sitting and pressing teams. We know all that. He cannot change anymore, it's not realistic to set your hope on that.
He will have to do what no other winger for us can do to keep his minutes up:
use his strong body, play with high work rate and high control at the same time. Those are his assets and he should focus exactly on that. We have seen how good and important he is when he does that. We have others to score.
Funny you ;)So what options do we have? Use him as a fullback?
Err, but he doesn't play him in the mid. Think you misread my post.And yet Pep, the greatest manager in this history of the game; has continued to select him over the last few years when he's fit.
If only Pep could see what you see in Jack....
I did, and it was basically just another attribute assassination, but rebadged this time to show why he can't play centrally.Err, but he doesn't play him in the mid. Think you misread my post.