10 | Jack Grealish - 2024/25

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One good pass but otherwise struggled to make impact against team way down

His fanboys will take victory laps though
There are people who like Jack, there are people who don’t, but why would you call those who choose to like him “fanboys”? That’s a very disparaging term for City fans who rate a City player, don’t you think?
 
Context is everything, though, given our opponents in those games.

We need and want him to be producing against the elite. The talent is there undoubtedly there.
He can only play against the opponents we're up against in the matches he gets played.

He's not in great form, he's struggling with his fitness, and maybe something's going on off the pitch.

Like all our players he has plenty of things he can work to improve.

But people would be quick enough to shit on him if he hadn't been creating chances and getting assists in the FA Cup. So I think it's worth acknowledging that in this competition in which he's actually had game-time, he has been getting those numbers, equal to or better than anyone else in our or any other squad.
 
Certainly, but effort or output doesn't seem to result in more minutes in his case. Foden can go invisible for weeks at a time and still be gifted opportunities to find form. Gundo and Kova are running on fumes and still get led out to slaughter. Just looks like different standards from player to player.
I can't disagree. Perhaps there is something going on behind the scene we're not privy to? Pep says it's because Savinho and Doku work harder and offer us more. I think he's right, but it makes me wonder if he has a drink problem like some are saying.
 
Great to see hes capable of producing the goods against Salford and Leyton Orient, well worth £100m
He wasn't our only player on the pitch against those teams. If those stats aren't anything to celebrate what does that say about his teammates?
 
He wasn't our only player on the pitch against those teams. If those stats aren't anything to celebrate what does that say about his teammates?
That they didn't go balls out against lower opposition as their recent form gets them into the league team already , whilst he has to prove something due him him producing the sum total of fuck all in over a year of premier league football?
 
Would you not agree that Pep continually playing Gundo and Kovacic whilst grealish has sat on the bench despite in your opinion them being the primary problem (which i completely disagree with) would indicate that Pep himself thinks he's a worse option than them in there?
Curious how you find Gundo and Kova aren't the issue in the midfield when half our games have basketball tempo and we have 60-70% possession with fuck all to show for it except for getting utterly dominated and blowing 2 goal leads.
 
That they didn't go balls out against lower opposition as their recent form gets them into the league team already , whilst he has to prove something due him him producing the sum total of fuck all in over a year of premier league football?
Which shows that there's actually nothing he could do that you would acknowledge as any kind of progress or achievement.

I'm sure you'd have plenty to say if he wasn't trying to prove himself in the minutes he gets.

We went behind to Leyton Orient and could easily have lost that match and exited the competition, but to you there's something wrong with a player going "balls out" to try to win it, and it's somehow a good sign for other players to be complacent because they're playing in the league?
 
He can only play against the opponents we're up against in the matches he gets played.

He's not in great form, he's struggling with his fitness, and maybe something's going on off the pitch.

Like all our players he has plenty of things he can work to improve.

But people would be quick enough to shit on him if he hadn't been creating chances and getting assists in the FA Cup. So I think it's worth acknowledging that in this competition in which he's actually had game-time, he has been getting those numbers, equal to or better than anyone else in our or any other squad.
Fair points. Just glad to be in the hat for the next round and hope he features more this week.
 
Which shows that there's actually nothing he could do that you would acknowledge as any kind of progress or achievement.

I'm sure you'd have plenty to say if he wasn't trying to prove himself in the minutes he gets.

We went behind to Leyton Orient and could easily have lost that match and exited the competition, but to you there's something wrong with a player going "balls out" to try to win it, and it's somehow a good sign for other players to be complacent because they're playing in the league?
Wouldn't have gotten the first goal without him putting Lewis on and could've been eliminated after playing extra time without his assist on the winner.
 
Curious how you find Gundo and Kova aren't the issue in the midfield when half our games have basketball tempo and we have 60-70% possession with fuck all to show for it except for getting utterly dominated and blowing 2 goal leads.
Wasn't the point of the post, it was questioning how you can act like it's an undebateable fact that grealish is an unquestionable better option than gundo and kovacic and any suggestion to the contrary isn't worth entertaining when our managers selection would suggest he very much disagrees with that.

Not going to derail the thread getting into that too much here but i'll offer a quick explanation. The problem is very clearly the press, or lack of, we send a front 4, sometimes 5 to "press" high up which is played around like they aren't there then we're instantly at a numerical disadvantage as those front players don't bother to retreat and the whole thing falls apart from there.
 
MOTM and still gets it in the neck. Some of you need to let the hatred of him go.
Out of interest, who gave him motm? If we're talking neutral match reports, i'd wager nearly all are giving it to their keeper or their goal scorer, but if it has to be a blue, it's surely going to savinho or Lewis.
 
Thought he was abysmal tbh. Had a 10 min spell in first half where he looked up for it and then went back to completely taking the safe route or failing to be on same wavelength as someone else.
 
Wasn't the point of the post, it was questioning how you can act like it's an undebateable fact that grealish is an unquestionable better option than gundo and kovacic and any suggestion to the contrary isn't worth entertaining when our managers selection would suggest he very much disagrees with that.

Not going to derail the thread getting into that too much here but i'll offer a quick explanation. The problem is very clearly the press, or lack of, we send a front 4, sometimes 5 to "press" high up which is played around like they aren't there then we're instantly at a numerical disadvantage as those front players don't bother to retreat and the whole thing falls apart from there.
I'm not saying he's an unquestionably better option, just that Grealish in there would be something different and something other teams don't already have figured out before kickoff.

Agree with you on the lack of pressing, but even 50/50 balls and late runners aren't being picked up by Gundo and Kova.
 
Thought he was abysmal tbh. Had a 10 min spell in first half where he looked up for it and then went back to completely taking the safe route or failing to be on same wavelength as someone else.
Had a hand in both goals and created a number of other chances. I thought he played very well and he certainly didn't take the safe route.

I guess people see what they wish to.
 
Had a hand in both goals and created a number of other chances. I thought he played very well and he certainly didn't take the safe route.

I guess people see what they wish to.

I see a player who 4 days out from a game vs Real Madrid didn’t see the chance to make a game vs a team of nobodies his own.

I would have loved nothing more than for jack to have torn that game apart. But it never, ever happens.
 
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