24 | Joško Gvardiol - 2023/24

[ElMago_DSilva]

Arguably our best player along with Walker.

 

[JDV]

Would like him at CB next to Stones with Ake or Akanji as LB. Dias needs a rest.

 

[vanchi]

Only player that can take any credit from the game today, was pretty faultless throughout.

Didn't watch much of him at Leipzig, but I assume he played centre half more often than not.

Feel like he's been shoe horned into left back at the moment, and although he's doing a good job, I think we'd be better off having a solid centre back pairing of him and Dias, with Ake at left back.

he played almost exclusively as a cb the last two seasons, i think a bit as lb at the beginning of his first season in leipzig but since then cb for club and country. he also believes cb is his natural position but will play any position he’s asked to play.

 

[vanchi]

You are right. The thing is that Gvardiol likes to take more risks with his passes than players in his position typically do. He always tries to use his passes to put his teammate in a good situation. In one interview, he even said that it's boring for him to constantly play those safe short passes.

that is true but i don’t think he’d do anything without pep’s blessing really, that would be just stupid.

 

[Middedon]

Ultimately, I’m curious what the long term plan is with him. LB, CH, Stones role? With the schedule there clearly hasn’t been any time to really work on anything with Pep, so I suppose long term could mean like next year. Or is it just fill in game to game as needed.

 

[vanchi]

 

[super_city_si]

Defensively hes a rock. Best defender out there today

 

[MCFCFanTX]

Insanely good

 

[richards30]

is there any reason why Pep is playing the best young CB in the world at LB? When one of our best and most consistent players from last season in Ake was at LB?

 

[Keeper!]

Class act, we have a very special player.

 

[ninjamonkey]

is there any reason why Pep is playing the best young CB in the world at LB? When one of our best and most consistent players from last season in Ake was at LB?

They're both comfortable in either role. He's still settling in, left back is seen as the better, easier, less risky position to bed him in and he can get up the pitch a bit more from there. Once he is fully integrated, I expect he won't play exclusively left back however I still think with the current squad it will be a fairly equal split, who he plays with and the opposition will dictate where we use him.

I don't think him playing cb yesterday makes any difference at all to the game. He's miles better on the ball than ake and Dias but that doesn't really matter when there's nobody infront of him to pass to.

 

[FantasyIreland]

In a see of negatives yesterday....he is a huge positive.

Bit leftfield this idea,and im not sure if someone else has thought similar already.....but given his skill set and physique,could Pep develop him into a Rodri understudy?

 

[kenbelly]

In a see of negatives yesterday....he is a huge positive.

Bit leftfield this idea,and im not sure if someone else has thought similar already.....but given his skill set and physique,could Pep develop him into a Rodri understudy?

I think he could do that role too, he’s got the skill set to do it, just needs Peps guidance.

 

[vanchi]

In a see of negatives yesterday....he is a huge positive.

Bit leftfield this idea,and im not sure if someone else has thought similar already.....but given his skill set and physique,could Pep develop him into a Rodri understudy?

he could i guess. joško played every position except gk during his development in dinamo.

anyway, today in zagreb with his boots in a city bag :D

 

[Middedon]

He was good defensively but a 71% pass completion from defence is shocking. Also has the highest inaccurate short passes per 90 in the squad... definitely something he has to work on

So I was curious about this. I looked at fbref.com and he’s at 90.7% for short passes which isn’t the lowest in the squad. Similar to Walker and a bit lower than Ake (93.6%). Room to improve certainly but not terrible. (Im sure stat companies all have some variation too).

Real question (not specifically for you) because both he and Dias had low completion rates yesterday, when I rewatched the game I played special attention to their passing. It didn’t appear that they mis-passed as many times as the various stat sites recorded. I was assuming if the recipient is able to field the ball, even if they have to move, it’s considered complete, but is there more to it than that? If two people are fighting for possession and one kicks it a few feet away, but it’s not received by a teammate is that considered an inaccurate “pass?”

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

In a see of negatives yesterday....he is a huge positive.

Bit leftfield this idea,and im not sure if someone else has thought similar already.....but given his skill set and physique,could Pep develop him into a Rodri understudy?

I think Gvardiol will eventually become a club legend. He will be amazing when he moves to his strongest position at centre-back. He looks good enough technically to play in midfield (certainly as good as John Stones). Perhaps he could do the Rodri role. We are struggling there. I thought Bernie did fine there against Arsenal but we need him in a more attacking position.

 

[vanchi]

my national team was crap tonight, unacceptable, sloppy performance at home.

joško was by far our best player on the pitch, absolute rock in the defense, good offensively as well, almost had two assists. what a player. and he had to play with a tree stump as a lb next to him.

 

[JewelZee]

my national team was crap tonight, unacceptable, sloppy performance at home.

joško was by far our best player on the pitch, absolute rock in the defense, good offensively as well, almost had two assists. what a player. and he had to play with a tree stump as a lb next to him.

I'm assuming you mean Barisic? When did Sosa come on?

 

[Akira]

Ultimately, I’m curious what the long term plan is with him. LB, CH, Stones role? With the schedule there clearly hasn’t been any time to really work on anything with Pep, so I suppose long term could mean like next year. Or is it just fill in game to game as needed.

I think he will eventually be played in the Stones role, maybe when Stones doesn't play. Inverted left back coming into midfield, or centre back stepping up into midfield.

Pep has already alluded as such, praising his ability to play CB, LB and DM.

Can't expect him to be throw in immediately into such a difficult role when he's just joined.

 

[vanchi]

I'm assuming you mean Barisic? When did Sosa come on?

yeah it was barišić, 80 minutes of him being horrible and useless, sosa got 10 minutes + injury time.

here’s one of joško’s good moves. he also had a couple super precise long balls to our strikers but well, those aren’t christopher nkunku… basically, cloning gvardiol would solve a lot of our issues.

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