47 | Phil Foden - 2022/23

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MaskedAguero10 said:
The fact that he hasn't played in the middle for a long time now and especially in a charity match such as this just shows how far away he is from having the trust of Pep to play there.
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I think it's funny that people talk about Foden like he's been banished out to the wing because he doesn't have what it takes to play in the middle, instead of acknowledging that he is also a pretty fucking good winger.

He's often our best option on the left, whereas we have plenty of central midfielders. Who was going to play on the left last night instead of him?

For all Pep has said about him being young and needing to learn to slow down, he's also explicitly referred to him as a midfielder. The exact same thing happened with the likes of David Silva and Iniesta when they were younger.
 
Wasted on the left for me, maybe Pep thinks that as he plays at 100 mile an hour if he loses it wide then they can get the ball back, if he does it in the middle we are on the back foot. Maybe in time as Foden learns to slow down a bit more he may move to the middle, especially if Bernardo goes.
 
Foden is still learning the game , he has played several postitions and this will enable him to understand the game better , Pep has put a lot of time into Phil and it is paying dividends , eventually i think he will play the same role as Merlin did for us , and if he is anywhere near as good as Merlin we have struck gold.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Wasted on the left for me, maybe Pep thinks that as he plays at 100 mile an hour if he loses it wide then they can get the ball back, if he does it in the middle we are on the back foot. Maybe in time as Foden learns to slow down a bit more he may move to the middle, especially if Bernardo goes.
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So from the left where he can’t really cut inside like Grealish and Mahrez constantly do on to his stronger foot. We don’t want him to use his burst of pace to try and get past a fullback on the outside we want him to just come inside on to his weak foot and play 10 yard passes? He’s actually not been going at players half as much but as he’s not been at his best this he only plays at one pace narrative is getting pushed again.

He has shown his class, range of passing and ability to dictate a game on the last few occasions he’s played centrally.Unfortunately it’s so rare he gets the chance to play there. We’ve got better 8’s than left sided midfielders and that’s why it suits Pep to keep playing him there.
 
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jimmygrimblesboots said:
Foden is still learning the game , he has played several postitions and this will enable him to understand the game better , Pep has put a lot of time into Phil and it is paying dividends , eventually i think he will play the same role as Merlin did for us , and if he is anywhere near as good as Merlin we have struck gold.
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not merlin but KDB
 
Agueroooo9320 said:
not merlin but KDB
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He’s got a lot of better natural attributes than David. Very different players though and for Foden to try and play like the great man did you’d be taking away so many of the things that make Foden a truly unique and potentially world class number 8.
 
Phil1 said:
Or maybe because he's fucking quality? Seems to have escaped a lot of people's attention but it's not only City fans who rate him.

A fair few posts on this thread should be Bookmarked...
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See the problem with that is a ego can start to build. When every english pundit is calling you quality or that you should be on the plane to World Cup starting etc. Foden is young and was being compared to Gascoigne during the euros when he doesn’t really have the numbers to back that comparison up yet. he has the ability but more and more players are caring about stats. Foden is no different.

Hopefully pep has kept him level headed but that interview at the start of the season with him saying he wants to get his numbers up in everything might be why hes shooting more instead of passing, which can affect the team in a good/bad way. He’s been a lot more selfish this season whether it would be trying to dribble when a pass is on or shooting when someone else is in a better position. Just hope this multitude of praise hasn’t gone to his head.

From our fan base and oppositions.
 
He played on the left because Mahrez is so inflexible and it would have been pointless giving Palmer minutes in a position he’s pretty much never played.
 
The only problem he has right now Pep is turning him into an ultra-utilitarian player with no chance showing his flair and excellent individual skills. He's been somehow morphed into ZInchenko and Grealish at once operating on that left side.
 
he now seems to have resorted to playing it quite safe, neat and tidy, rather than taking risks and showing how dangerous he can be.
Almost like the grealish influence is rubbing off on him.
 
SamBlue said:
The only problem he has right now Pep is turning him into an ultra-utilitarian player with no chance showing his flair and excellent individual skills. He's been somehow morphed into ZInchenko and Grealish at once operating on that left side.
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Reminds me of Jesus. This „ La pausa“ thing is getting irritating. Pls him in the middle if you want him to get better at that certain position. Why should a LW play slow on the wings?
 
King Jay said:
Reminds me of Jesus. This „ La pausa“ thing is getting irritating. Pls him in the middle if you want him to get better at that certain position. Why should a LW play slow on the wings?
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The problem is where in the middle to place him. Reality is both Gundogan and KdB are better of what they are doing than Phil and don't even let me get to Bernardo's role. Actually that false nine formation was so good for him because it was a very fluid formation and he had freedom to move around. It is out of the window now, so it's left to see what happens to him.
 
Craig said:
He’s got a lot of better natural attributes than David. Very different players though and for Foden to try and play like the great man did you’d be taking away so many of the things that make Foden a truly unique and potentially world class number 8.
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he is not a number 8 but a number 10 for now and hence why pep will not play foden as a 8
 
Agueroooo9320 said:
he is not a number 8 but a number 10 for now and hence why pep will not play foden as a 8
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He’s got everything to play as an 8. KDB is playing as a 10 now but played as an 8 for plenty of years under Pep. Do you think he wasn’t an 8? The 2 main issues are Pep won’t play him and KDB centrally as they’re both very attacking. Kev could give the ball away more than most on an off day and obviously i’m not criticising his brilliance. The other issue is we don’t have a genuine left sided midfielder so Foden is the best option for that position. Yes Grealish plays there and will keep the ball all day but it’s clearly not his natural game to stay out there passing largely sideways.
 
MaskedAguero10 said:
If Foden had been showing what Pep requires of him to play CM then I'm pretty sure he would have been the first one to put him straight into midfield and be just as eager as the rest of us to see him play there as he knows he's such a special player. The fact that he hasn't played in the middle for a long time now and especially in a charity match such as this just shows how far away he is from having the trust of Pep to play there.

Even in the last two seasons in the cup matches Pep would at least play Foden in CM even if he wouldn't be playing there in PL/CL matches but now even Palmer who could be considered Mahrez' replacement/successor at RW is getting a game at CM ahead of Foden who is naturally a CM.

I have watched him and he plays in one gear. Especially in the heat of the moment when the attacks are being constructed and the ball is with him and play is moving fast in the box, he doesn't slow his stride and give the "pause" amidst the chaos around him he just continues his movements in that one very intense tempo- again even Pep said this very phrase "His movements are all in one go". Personally, I have yet to see Phil produce what Pep requires of him.

Look at his younger contemporary Pedri, I love Foden but Pedri his poise and control and how he can shift gears effortlessly, he's already a master of Pausa at his young age, and why he's a fixture in midfield.

I hope this new contract doesn't make Phil get ahead of himself and focuses because as Pep said he can always improve and must strive to better himself every day.
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Remember that audio caught from KDB mid game.. Phil you don't fucking listen?? (a few seasons ago)

It's probably why he's not trusted in midfield as Pep systems are dependent on midfield domination of ball control. If that is lost instant counter attack.

Anyways enough negativity.. he is better on the wings than Sane and Sterling especially in terms of ball possession and pressing so very likely will be a winger as long as he has pace.

We all know Sterling wasn't happy Foden displaced him.. so Foden obviously did do something right there.
 
Why is everyone panicking? He's played in about 8 different positions and was used mainly in the 9 last season, i'm sure it will take a few games to get himself into the rhythm here as well (completely ignoring the fact he missed the preseason in America).
 
King Jay said:
Reminds me of Jesus. This „ La pausa“ thing is getting irritating. Pls him in the middle if you want him to get better at that certain position. Why should a LW play slow on the wings?
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If you don't pause the game.. you end up losing games like what almost happened with Newcastle.

Other teams are faster and more attacking directly than us (Liverpool in last few seasons). Even United have cut us to shreds in a few derbies with Ole at the wheel.

That pause gives City control and that's why Pep loves midfielders who can do that.
 
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