47 | Phil Foden - 2023/24

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What people underestimate about Phil, or sometimes forget, I suppose, is that with his speed and touch he is able to get to and control passes that almost nobody else can deal with. He has the best first touch in football, particularly when you notice what he does at full speed. And he's one of those people that actually seems faster with the ball. He's nothing close to a Bernardo or Jack, who can putter around with the ball in possession for what seems like minutes at times. That's not Phil's thing. So yes, he is going to lose the ball sometimes, but in some cases the loss of the ball is due to him actually making contact with balls that nobody else would ever get to. Honestly, he's not best suited to our heavy possession gameplay, and it's in transition when you see him shine.
 
Ghostofmerlin said:
What people underestimate about Phil, or sometimes forget, I suppose, is that with his speed and touch he is able to get to and control passes that almost nobody else can deal with. He has the best first touch in football, particularly when you notice what he does at full speed. And he's one of those people that actually seems faster with the ball. He's nothing close to a Bernardo or Jack, who can putter around with the ball in possession for what seems like minutes at times. That's not Phil's thing. So yes, he is going to lose the ball sometimes, but in some cases the loss of the ball is due to him actually making contact with balls that nobody else would ever get to. Honestly, he's not best suited to our heavy possession gameplay, and it's in transition when you see him shine.
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Best first touch in football is a bit over the top, ffs is much better for one
 
Only player who looked interested last night - basically carried the team.

Any decent England manager would be building the team around Phil and the other treble-winning City players. But while TwatGate’s obsession with Rashford, Henderson, Maguire and “Trent” continues, England won’t be winning anything.
 
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It's 100% true and hard to understand as he's one of our own.

The reaction to Alvarez losing the ball compared to Phil is wildly different for whatever reason, for example.
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Always been that way I understand. Home grown players get more stick for whatever reason.

Foden is one of the best footballers ive ever seen play the game.

He looked brilliant at 16 , even better now,despite diff playing posistions

He was our man of the match against Chelsea and wasnt even feeling 100% ,quite ill like other players,but still turned out and fought tooth and nail for City.Not the first time this season he hasn't been fully fit and been selected..

When we went down to 10 men against Forest it was he, who having already scored a brilliant opening goal, had to dig in for 45 mins and ran himself into the ground...ensuring the 3 pts were ours and covering for Rodris absence..A huge responsibility ,imo
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Fantastic player ..and the list of expert pundits queuing up to sing his praises so far this season is unreal.

Already one of the greatest players England has ever produced.
Proud he plays for my team.
 
Blue Steel said:
Only player who looked interested last night - basically carried the team.

Any decent England manager would be building the team around Phil and the other treble-winning City players. But while TwatGate’s obsession with Rashford, Henderson, Maguire and “Trent” continues, England won’t be winning anything.
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Said it for years. Foden has been sidelinded...
Didn't watch last night's game..I hear he was top notch ?
 
Loved to see him seize the opportunity in the middle. Far and away England's best player.

He has no business even being an inverted winger. He needs to be completely central/have a free role. I rate Alvarez and love his work rate but is his ceiling really higher than Foden's? IMO, no, and it's not particularly close either.
 
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Best first touch in football is a bit over the top, ffs is much better for one
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Riyad’s first touch is wonderful but it is not much better than Phil’s. He had a number of sublime first touches tonight. The way he can take the ball on the turn is breathtaking.
 
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OB1 said:
The way he can take the ball on the turn is breathtaking.
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No other English players can do that. He can get defences on the back foot be running at them before they can set themselves, because he's already received the ball, turned and is running at them before they know it.

I know it's not an England thread but I believe any good manager would look at the options England have and have Foden as your 10, Bellingham as an 8 where he can still get forward and Rice holding. Kane up top.

It's criminal if the team isn't built around that.
 
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No other English players can do that. He can get defences on the back foot be running at them before they can set themselves, because he's already received the ball, turned and is running at them before they know it.

I know it's not an England thread but I believe any good manager would look at the options England have and have Foden as your 10, Bellingham as an 8 where he can still get forward and Rice holding. Kane up top.

It's criminal if the team isn't built around that.
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Completely agree.
Having Foden as #10 would set up Bellingham with even more goals with his razor-quick thinking and pinpoint passing.
Unfortunately, Southgate hasn't got the nerve to play the 2 "youngsters" together.
Also, it would take the focus away from King Harry Kane - so will never happen...
 
Two excellent performances from him and there will not be a single England fan out there who doesn't think he should start in the middle now. Southgate tried it, he impressed...it's whether he has the faith in the defensive players to allow Phil and Bellingham to start together. And I can see why he wouldn't want to do that when he has Maguire as his most trusted option. As an aside, I was impressed with Guehi. A shame we'll probably not see him and Stones have enough time to mould a partnership before the Euros.
 
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No other English players can do that. He can get defences on the back foot be running at them before they can set themselves, because he's already received the ball, turned and is running at them before they know it.

I know it's not an England thread but I believe any good manager would look at the options England have and have Foden as your 10, Bellingham as an 8 where he can still get forward and Rice holding. Kane up top.

It's criminal if the team isn't built around that.
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Totally agree. Southgate's persistance with two holding midfielders is going to cost England dearly.

Foden and Bellingham are both capable of dropping back and tackling people when the need arises.
 
Foden getting time to grow into the game instead of been made to play all the time comes to mind. If a young player is given time they are bench player. Short term thinking killing the game with young players being overplayed such as Pedri and Gavi at Barca.

 
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