5 Live: Police investigating racist incident at Etihad

[jay_mcfc]

To be fair two little girls should not be hearing their father calling someone a 'black twat'. If that is what he said, and he got caught, he deserves everything he gets.

 

[Danielmanc]

to be fair he is not excusing it he is trying to see it rationally , do you not give a shit about his 2 little girls feelings , no he should not have said it , but he did , and to put those kids through that , is wrong there are ways of doing things and that was not the correct way , thrown out , yes . arrested , maybe , but dragging him out infront of his 2 little kids harms them and they were innocent in all this

The father didn't "give a shit about his 2 little girls feelings " himself or he wouldn't have been making racist comments ion front of his own kids

what so because he didnt no body should consider a kids feelings , yeah that will show em ey, your dads a racist so you will be punished for it ,

I feel realy sorry for the kids to be honest Bruvs. I feel sorry that they have a dad that makes racist comments in front of them and I feel sorry that they were exposed to that upsetting and distressing situation yesterday.

 

[IMARRIEDBLUEMOON]

I'm sorry but "black twat" may be worthy of a ban letter , or even a polite conversation asking him to leave . Arresting someone in front of their kids over it is pretty terrible. He didn't try and harm the guy, didn't round up some pals to lynch him, he said something pretty stupid , I agree, but just seems a little drastic. Yes he should have known better, yes it was dumb to do in front of his kids but anyone that has kids has done something that sets a terrible example for them.

No mate, calling someone a 'black twat' is racist and deplorable. No excuse.

Was discussing this issue of 'racism' the other day. Black Twat - NO. 'Paki Twat' - NO, 'Monkey noises/actions etc' - NO.

Jock Twat - OK?
Welsh Twat - OK?
Irish Twat - OK?

The last three are actually 'RACIST' . Being Black is NOT a race issue, but a colour issue. The law makers seem to be tying themselves and us into the most confusing big knot. Better off going to the game and keeping your gob shut per se.

 

[Marvin]

Difficult situation by the sound of it

What would be wrong with a quiet word in the ear from neighbouring fans or a steward and an apology to those around him.

 

[mrbandanjo]

There is also video evidence available of thousands of fans calling Arsene Wenger a paedophile - should these fans all be reported and is this an arrestable offence?

Your second question answers your first as it is not an arrestable offence per se.

For personal reasons at which I can only guess you seem to have a reason for wanting the law changing so that calling someone a paedophile is illegal. If it troubles you so much I suggest you write to your MP.

Ok, so my next question is why is calling someone a paedophile deemed more acceptable than calling someone a black twat?

All I want to see, and I know I'm not alone on this, is some kind of parity here. It's not unreasonable to want an end to these double standards.

If you call someone a pedophile when they aren't, that's slander; calling them a black twat, is racist. Both are illegal... No double standards involved.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

No mate, calling someone a 'black twat' is racist and deplorable. No excuse.

to be fair he is not excusing it he is trying to see it rationally , do you not give a shit about his 2 little girls feelings , no he should not have said it , but he did , and to put those kids through that , is wrong there are ways of doing things and that was not the correct way , thrown out , yes . arrested , maybe , but dragging him out infront of his 2 little kids harms them and they were innocent in all this

How old are these "little girls"?

Would say nine and 13.

Got to say, my bro was up and ready to have it out and smash him, but I pulled him back and told him to think of his kids.

The fella knew he had done wrong, there was a very awkward silence and he was turning red in the face and could feel the eyes burning in to him.

Do I think he's a racist, not really. Your typical mid-40s middle class average Joe, certainly no knuckle dragger.

Certainly a racist comment and if I'm honest, I didn't know the best course of action, in terms of even reporting it.

I was shocked, which I suppose it a good thing, because in my three decades going to watch the blues I can count on two fingers hearing something like this.

What made it worse was the police did not witness it, the stewards did not witness it.

The father went to the back of the block at half-time, asked my a steward.

What became apparent to everybody, including his little girls, was their dad was not coming back, as you can imagine, a pretty traumatic experience.

Credit must go to blues who did do the right thing, but also to the female fans who came to console the girls and calm them down.

At no stage did a steward or a police officer concern themselves with the fall out.

 

[jay_mcfc]

I'm sorry but "black twat" may be worthy of a ban letter , or even a polite conversation asking him to leave . Arresting someone in front of their kids over it is pretty terrible. He didn't try and harm the guy, didn't round up some pals to lynch him, he said something pretty stupid , I agree, but just seems a little drastic. Yes he should have known better, yes it was dumb to do in front of his kids but anyone that has kids has done something that sets a terrible example for them.

No mate, calling someone a 'black twat' is racist and deplorable. No excuse.

Was discussing this issue of 'racism' the other day. Black Twat - NO. 'Paki Twat' - NO, 'Monkey noises/actions etc' - NO.

Jock Twat - OK?
Welsh Twat - OK?
Irish Twat - OK?

The last three are actually 'RACIST' . Being Black is NOT a race issue, but a colour issue. The law makers seem to be tying themselves and us into the most confusing big knot. Better off going to the game and keeping your gob shut per se.

Are you for real? I don't give a fuck what the law is, calling someone a 'black twat' is utterly deplorable

 

[Danielmanc]

to be fair he is not excusing it he is trying to see it rationally , do you not give a shit about his 2 little girls feelings , no he should not have said it , but he did , and to put those kids through that , is wrong there are ways of doing things and that was not the correct way , thrown out , yes . arrested , maybe , but dragging him out infront of his 2 little kids harms them and they were innocent in all this

How old are these "little girls"?

Would say nine and 13.

Got to say, my bro was up and ready to have it out and smash him, but I pulled him back and told him to think of his kids.

The fella knew he had done wrong, there was a very awkward silence and he was turning red in the face and could feel the eyes burning in to him.

Do I think he's a racist, not really. Your typical mid-40s middle class average Joe, certainly no knuckle dragger.

Certainly a racist comment and if I'm honest, I didn't know the best course of action, in terms of even reporting it.

I was shocked, which I suppose it a good thing, because in my three decades going to watch the blues I can count on two fingers hearing something like this.

What made it worse was the police did not witness it, the stewards did not witness it.

The father went to the back of the block at half-time, asked my a steward.

What became apparent to everybody, including his little girls, was their dad was not coming back, as you can imagine, a pretty traumatic experience.

Credit must go to blues who did do the right thing, but also to the female fans who came to console the girls and calm them down.

At no stage did a steward or a police officer concern themselves with the fall out.

I agree that the fact that you were shocked is a good thing. As you say, we don't hear this kind of thing at our ground (not where I sit anyway) and that is something we should celebrate.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

How old are these "little girls"?

Would say nine and 13.

Got to say, my bro was up and ready to have it out and smash him, but I pulled him back and told him to think of his kids.

The fella knew he had done wrong, there was a very awkward silence and he was turning red in the face and could feel the eyes burning in to him.

Do I think he's a racist, not really. Your typical mid-40s middle class average Joe, certainly no knuckle dragger.

Certainly a racist comment and if I'm honest, I didn't know the best course of action, in terms of even reporting it.

I was shocked, which I suppose it a good thing, because in my three decades going to watch the blues I can count on two fingers hearing something like this.

What made it worse was the police did not witness it, the stewards did not witness it.

The father went to the back of the block at half-time, asked my a steward.

What became apparent to everybody, including his little girls, was their dad was not coming back, as you can imagine, a pretty traumatic experience.

Credit must go to blues who did do the right thing, but also to the female fans who came to console the girls and calm them down.

At no stage did a steward or a police officer concern themselves with the fall out.

I agree that the fact that you were shocked is a good thing. As you say, we don't hear this kind of thing at our ground (not where I sit anyway) and that is something we should celebrate.

I was in the North Stand once in the bear pit as it became towards the end, and this dick called Anelka a black bastard, loud and as bold as brass.

Anelka scores about ten minutes later and he's all over the place jumping up and down.

I so wanted to report him but thought I would get smashed to bits by all his pals.

Like I say, it is the only time in 35 years I have directly heard racism attending City.

The arrival of women and children has certainly had an impact, as has seating, on combating racism.

 

[mick10]

The guy obviously screamed this in the heat of the moment. Not right but still the heat of the moment. He doesn't go to the match with his two (I asasume) daughters and slide of to the kkk meeting afterwards I'm sure.

fu**er
C**t
Bas***d
Wan**r
and so on...................Prefix with what you wish at the moment (French,Irish,jock,English,ginger,fat,baldy blah blah.), you're screaming it. Doesn't make it right but it happens and at the time the same venom is felt from the person hurling it. Wrong to judge the guy on one incident.