87 | James McAtee - 2024/25

[doobyedoobye]

The scrutiny players are under now is incredible.. Hero to zero and vice vera in a nano second..

 

[SkaiBlu]

Here's hoping McAtee gets more starts and playing time soon and very soon. We certainly wouldn't want to lose out on such a talented midfielder at all.

 

[dhruvblue]

Any outbound permanent sale rumours?

 

[shevtheblue]

If we get anyone in, i can't see him staying. Even in desperate times when we have injuries everywhere, players barely being able to get through games and losing every fucking match - the kid doesn't get off the bench.

 

[PragueBlue]

If we get anyone in, i can't see him staying. Even in desperate times when we have injuries everywhere, players barely being able to get through games and losing every fucking match - the kid doesn't get off the bench.

I think the idea was to probably integrate him into a stable team gradually, as and when results allow. Throwing him into a struggling team is likely to do him more harm than good.

 

[shevtheblue]

I think the idea was to probably integrate him into a stable team gradually, as and when results allow. Throwing him into a struggling team is likely to do him more harm than good.

100% this was the plan. But if you are a player and you're hoping for some game time, you see us in the predicament we're in and then see Pep doing everything he can NOT to play you - you'll prob be in your right mind to think you'll never play. For instance if i was JWE i would know for a fact there is no future for me at this club, as a player who has played his whole career at LB you are seeing Nunez who has played as a 6, 8, 10 and a winger who is now covering for LB! I do think at some point you have to trust the players, Klopp had to do this a few times last season with guys like Quansah and Bradley..

 

[Xhavenjoe]

There's a Palmer thread in the general forum where you can worship/slag him until the cows come home

Cows?
Palmer is the GOAT.

 

[Xhavenjoe]

100% this was the plan. But if you are a player and you're hoping for some game time, you see us in the predicament we're in and then see Pep doing everything he can NOT to play you - you'll prob be in your right mind to think you'll never play. For instance if i was JWE i would know for a fact there is no future for me at this club, as a player who has played his whole career at LB you are seeing Nunez who has played as a 6, 8, 10 and a winger who is now covering for LB! I do think at some point you have to trust the players, Klopp had to do this a few times last season with guys like Quansah and Bradley..

liverpool were left with playing " young untried" players or moving more experienced players into positions that they weren't accustomed to.
Bradley and Kelleher are players that have played well when called in.
We have to take this chance.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

I think the idea was to probably integrate him into a stable team gradually, as and when results allow. Throwing him into a struggling team is likely to do him more harm than good.

I don’t agree. Loads of young players usually get there opportunity when someone else is injured or the teams out of form. Playing no games at all is doing him more harm than anything

Your last point to me is almost like being scared to play them. Basically another excuse not to play him.

Can’t play him in a struggling side
Can’t play him in well performing side - we can’t take an in form player out
He doesn’t have the experience…

It’s excuse after excuse. At some point we have to give them an actual run in side, especially when the seniors in front have been terrible. Other top sides somehow manage it.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Can you not see the risk of our famed academy system being undermined? Foden only got serious game time when he was literally impossible to ignore. Palmer and others got theirs by leaving the club. McAtee may be a leprous lump of shit for all I know but that’s certainly the message he’ll be getting after being bigged up then discarded.

I’m starting to agree with this. I think considering we have the best academy in the country’s peps record with young players is poor. As you say foden became impossible to ignore - even then it’s taken years to become a regular. When everyone’s fit and with new signings I don’t think Lewis will be starting either.

Obviously some of these players aren’t good enough, but seeing players like Palmer, Lavia, Delap, Rogers and harwood bellis becoming the best young players in the league and not playing for us disappointing. I reckon Mcatee will be another one.

Our small squad could have done with a few this season. We’ve signed players for 50/60m who aren’t as talented as our own academy lads. Will more youngsters just see us as a stepping stone.