9/11 - More evidence it was set up by people in the shadows

[Alpha Kenny Wun]

Haven't read the entire thread so apologies if already mentioned.....

How utterly utterly preposterous and insulting to our intelligence is it that we are expected to believe that in a crash that was so incredibly severe that the black box data recorders were never recovered (I believe the only time in hstory this has happened in a "land-based" crash anyways) one piece of "evidence" that miraculously DID appear was the INTACT, UNDAMAGED passport of one of the "hijackers"...?

For what it's worth my opinion is that 9/11 was a planned attack by an outside agency/nation (probably Israel), aided and abetted by members of the US Govt. and/or Intelligence agencies with the express (and sadly successful) intention of plunging the USA and western world into a war with Islam in the middle east.

It wouldn't have required hundreds of co-conspiritors inside the US. As few as a handful could have been enough.

The Israelies have previous for this sort of thing (USS Liberty attack in 1967) as does the USA (Gulf of Tonkin incident that allowed LBJ to "legally" go to war in Vietnam on a LIE).

Make of that what you will (or call me a crackpot if it makes you feel better) but to me at least 9/11 was NOT as it's been officially described.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.911myths.com/html/passport_recovered.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.911myths.com/html/passport_recovered.html</a>

 

[casualdeyna]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6407548186293238834#

ZOMG.

Gets interesting towards 10 minutes in.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u70EYe4vy8U&feature=related[/youtube]

 

[MCFCinUSA]

no, they are laced with vast quantities of shockingly willful ignorance and frightening naivete.

"over and out, Blue Maverick"

(as I've stated before, you can't win an argument with a moron - they drag the conversation down to their level and beat you with experience; and then you've got Dunning-Kruger to deal with)

Yes, yes they are, you decided to quote one of my 10 points, did you read the rest, they are all 100% completely factual and you cant digress from that. What do you say to all of those 10 points? or maybe it is your ignorance that has made you unable to face up to the cold hard facts and the truth that is there for all to see.

it's all ludicrous bollocks - if you're not sure just yet what I think of people who believe government agencies of any description were involved in 9/11 in any capacity.

(and I won't even get into the numerous arguments against 'your' 10 points which are laughable)

it would be the same thing for any City supporter to conspire against our own team at a derby match at Old Trafford to have ManUre win, and in the process slaughtering one third of our travelling supporters - doesn't make any sense does it? "Oh, they were going to make out big-time on touting the extra tickets for next year's match at the Swamp" is about as sane a reason as the sort of shit peddled in this thread and by conspiracy numpties who might be lacking two neurons to rub together and cannot fathom how people act and are motivated in the real world - which isn't as base and simplistic as they think.

I know you've not read this so I'm wasting my time posting it <a class="postlink-local" href="http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=139026" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=5&t=139026</a> (again) , as I am trying to enlighten the more intellectually and common-sense challenged amongst us from continuing to make idiots out of themselves.

there really isn't any excuse, not if you have half a brain!

- end -

(since I must have posted up enough threads and replies to these moronic assertions already; this one was just for you BS)

 

[beano46]

Time and Time again I've been told to watch Loose Change by Friends and Work mates alike who themselves have been convinced by watching it that 9/11 was conceaved and carried out by the powers that be or as the OP puts it people in shadows.

Firstly I'm not going to watch it as I virtually know it word for word and all the "evidence" it presented because I have heard so much about it from the afore mentioned.

Secondly I'm absolutely certain that this was an out and out terriost attact nothing more and nothing less, that is my personnal opinion.

I'm not going to go down the road of slagging off those who beilive otherwise they are entitled to there opinion as much as I'm entitled to mine.

However I will say that those people that I know who do beilive that 9/11 was thw workings of the American Goverment can give me only one answer when I ask them why they think the powers that be would carry out such an astrosity on thier own people I get the same answer Oil.

A one word answer to a question that to my mind has so much potencial for a healthy debate but completly closes the case in my favour.

 

[MCFCinUSA]

Time and Time again I've been told to watch Loose Change by Friends and Work mates alike who themselves have been convinced by watching it that 9/11 was conceaved and carried out by the powers that be or as the OP puts it people in shadows.

Firstly I'm not going to watch it as I virtually know it word for word and all the "evidence" it presented because I have heard so much about it from the afore mentioned.

Secondly I'm absolutely certain that this was an out and out terriost attact nothing more and nothing less, that is my personnal opinion.

I'm not going to go down the road of slagging off those who beilive otherwise they are entitled to there opinion as much as I'm entitled to mine.

However I will say that those people that I know who do beilive that 9/11 was thw workings of the American Goverment can give me only one answer when I ask them why they think the powers that be would carry out such an astrosity on thier own people I get the same answer Oil.

A one word answer to a question that to my mind has so much potencial for a healthy debate but completly closes the case in my favour.

firstly, the Americans might invade Iraq over concerns about oil, but they don't need to implode two of their own buildings right at the centre of the financial markets in downtown Manhattan as an 'excuse' to make it happen. This is so laughable and ludicrous in the extreme it makes you wonder what sort of imbeciles would believe in this - maybe people who also think the moon landings never happened?

The havoc and chaos this caused was unimaginable, let alone the criminal loss of life entailed, which would probably be an act of high treason if it were perpetrated by an American. Also, people labouring under such infantile delusions figure that the American government gives a shit about what they personally think - which is an even funnier notion.

secondly, such a ludicrous plan would never get off the ground:

<a class="postlink-local" href="http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=139026" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=5&t=139026</a>

(and that's before you start to laugh at the ideas that bombs were planted to bring those buildings down, etc etc)

it makes me wonder how little people think things through, and how lacking in common sense they can are.

it truly worries me no end, but then there are some very stupid people walking about aren't there?

(but I like to believe everyone has the capacity to learn, instead of clinging to their ignorant beliefs - where's that MLK quote? I guess I'm a sucker for that)

 

[Skashion]

Absolutely, an American government would never even countenance attacking its own civilians as an excuse for an invasion: <a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods</a>.

 

[sweynforkbeard]

Absolutely, an American government would never even countenance attacking its own civilians as an excuse for an invasion: <a class="postlink" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods</a>.

I believe that Wikipedia is a Chinese/Muslim/Masonic conspiracy to flood the West with lies and disinformation.

 

[talkativesprout]

I got 8 pages into this thread and not 1 mention of Cliff and his band.

to suggest it was a sanctioned government attack is probably just as insane as me thinking a Christian and his guitar based band were responsible.

Massive arse covering exercise afterwards, yes probably.

Conspiracy, do me a favour

 

[Maintainin]

Yes, yes they are, you decided to quote one of my 10 points, did you read the rest, they are all 100% completely factual and you cant digress from that. What do you say to all of those 10 points? or maybe it is your ignorance that has made you unable to face up to the cold hard facts and the truth that is there for all to see.

it's all ludicrous bollocks - if you're not sure just yet what I think of people who believe government agencies of any description were involved in 9/11 in any capacity.

(and I won't even get into the numerous arguments against 'your' 10 points which are laughable)

it would be the same thing for any City supporter to conspire against our own team at a derby match at Old Trafford to have ManUre win, and in the process slaughtering one third of our travelling supporters - doesn't make any sense does it? "Oh, they were going to make out big-time on touting the extra tickets for next year's match at the Swamp" is about as sane a reason as the sort of shit peddled in this thread and by conspiracy numpties who might be lacking two neurons to rub together and cannot fathom how people act and are motivated in the real world - which isn't as base and simplistic as they think.

I know you've not read this so I'm wasting my time posting it <a class="postlink-local" href="http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=139026" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">viewtopic.php?f=5&t=139026</a> (again) , as I am trying to enlighten the more intellectually and common-sense challenged amongst us from continuing to make idiots out of themselves.

there really isn't any excuse, not if you have half a brain!

- end -

(since I must have posted up enough threads and replies to these moronic assertions already; this one was just for you BS)

...Ludicrous is the way you try to shoot other posters down with your attempts to label and patronise them with word play putdowns simply for their views, personal opinions, thoughts and questions.

Try takin it easy as there is no real need to keep chuckin' up !

(((((((((open your mmminddddd)))))))))))

 

[blueju]

So the American government planned a horrific attack on their own citizens, on their own soil, on one of their greatest landmarks, which killed thousands ( including some of the people they hold in their highest esteem, policemen and firemen), Anne also destroyed part of their main defense headquarters and killing their own staff whilst in the process making their whole national security look a shambles and defenseless ?
Who were the hijackers on the plane that had the sound recordings, the Harlem globetrotters?
Hmmmmm......I don't think so

You do a disservice to those that died