A War On Three Fronts

[blueinsa]

The Eu wont be worse off as they've already plugged the gap in trade created by the UK leaving. And in fact after our show of bad faith I would put it past them not to do a deal as we could just rip it up 9 months later.

Plugged the gap have they?

Go on, I will bite, how?

You do realise that even in the event of no deal, trade between the UK and the EU does not stop?

 

[RabidCity]

The Eu wont be worse off as they've already plugged the gap in trade created by the UK leaving. And in fact after our show of bad faith I would put it past them not to do a deal as we could just rip it up 9 months later.

they will be worse off, as regardless of additional growth, they lose competitive advantage in the UK market. so it’s a backwards move for both.

 

[Vic]

they will be worse off, as regardless of additional growth, they lose competitive advantage in the UK market. so it’s a backwards move for both.

You mean as imports will cost more because of tariffs and the tanking pound, uk companies can be less competitive and can put up prices for us consumers.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

I honestly think they want an England and I said England specifically to be reimagined as it was in the days of their childhood. Long summer days, cricket on the village green, God Save the Queen played as the TV closes for the night, warships circumnavigating the globe flying the white ensign and Churchill giving patriotic speeches on the radio.

How old do you think they are?

And that's the key question, because it's the same in America with the MAGA crew. They long for an imagined past that they didn't actually experience themselves. Or at least they use said imagined past to get elected and are deliberately vague about it for that exact reason.

 

[andyhinch]

I think we need to listen to that Silva bloke, hasn’t got the balls to say who he is, but I’m sure he’s a I’m sure he’s Committed to United National Transparency, that was hard work, I’ll just call him a ****

 

[I'm With Stupid]

they will be worse off, as regardless of additional growth, they lose competitive advantage in the UK market. so it’s a backwards move for both.

Well it's interesting, because it seems like the Brexit brigade don't seem to have a particularly consistent economic policy. One could argue that the countries that have been successful in recent decades (South Korea, China, etc) have combined free trade with a selective use of protectionist policies on certain products. You'd think that leaving the EU would put us in a perfect position to do that sort of thing. And a lot of Brexit and recent right-wing populism in general has been tied up in the reaction against globalization (traditionally more of a leftist position, perhaps), which has been blamed for a reduction in the standard of living and destruction of industries in Western countries. So it seems strange to me that Brexit is followed by a huge push to basically replicate all of the free trade deals we already had when we were in the EU.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Plugged the gap have they?

Go on, I will bite, how?

You do realise that even in the event of no deal, trade between the UK and the EU does not stop?

 

[blueinsa]

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I can see a graph with little to no context and someone has written Oops! on it?

Link perhaps?

 

[dave_blue12]

Interesting thread.

What stood out for me is that in the main the debate is reasoned and polite except for 2 posters who seem angry and confrontational in their posting. This seems to fit in with Bob’s theory of Brexit/EU hate being a perpetual emotional fix.

For the people to which this applies and clearly there are large numbers that it does apply to, there will never be a satisfactory conclusion because what ails them lies within.

Just a theory but if Cummings/the Elliots/ERG/Farage or whoever is actually running the policy understand and are deliberately delivering never ending conflict as a means of retaining power it is an extremely clever if a very sad strategy.

 

[blueinsa]

Interesting thread.

What stood out for me is that in the main the debate is reasoned and polite except for 2 posters who seem angry and confrontational in their posting. This seems to fit in with Bob’s theory of Brexit/EU hate being a perpetual emotional fix.

For the people to which this applies and clearly there are large numbers that it does apply to, there will never be a satisfactory conclusion because what ails them lies within.

Just a theory but if Cummings/the Elliots/ERG/Farage or whoever is actually running the policy understand and are deliberately delivering never ending conflict as a means of retaining power it is an extremely clever if a very sad strategy.

Interesting post.

Who are the 2 posters you refer to and as for there will never be a satisfactory conclusion for them, I would suggest that applies far more to yourself and those who have always demanded we remain.

Sir John Major and Blair have chirped in again this morning. What ails them?