According to SSN... Tevez wants to go!

[Damocles]

 

[inbetween]

We can't afford to leave him in the reserves as the highest paid footballer in the country, total nonsense.

Yes, trillionaire businessman Sheikh Mansour couldn't afford to keep Carlos Tevez on £10m a year doing nothing.

He personally isn't a trillionaire, nowhere near. No proper businessman with any sense would ever sanction someone to just be left to rot in the reserves, it's complete nonsense.

Tevez has three choices, he can carry on saying he wants to leave but he will never be allowed to leave until City get the maximum gain out of him, whether that's through a swap deal or something along the lines of £35/40 Million. Otherwise as his contract states he will carry on playing first team football for us, he has no choice, if he refuses to play he basically breaches his contract and owes us £30 Million.

I think that's by far a better business strategy then letting him rot in the reserves, paying him to do so and then letting him go on a free. It's easily the line City will take, i think though we'll be having a lot of words with Madrid and Barca over the coming month....

Plus if he wants to spend all this time with his kids he'll no doubt not have any problems with his wages at his next club, making him a very attractive option to a club who has a fair bit of money, wants a world class player but doesn't want to pay much in terms of salary. Barca, Madrid and a few others fit that bill so the next month will be very interesting.

We have to remember though we will be directly helping out our competitors who are now every club in the Champions League so if we are going to sell him i'd rather him goto Argentina where we get the money but don't help out anyone else but i'd take a good swap deal with a European club.

 

[JWP1926]

We can't afford to leave him in the reserves as the highest paid footballer in the country, total nonsense.

Yes, trillionaire businessman Sheikh Mansour couldn't afford to keep Carlos Tevez on £10m a year doing nothing.

rather fucks uo the FIFA Fair play though because presumably we would need a Tevez replacement which aint cheap - we cant afford to keep him but not because of the dosh but because of the Fiar Play Rules - 10 Million a year sat on the books doing fook all plus another 5 - 8 million for his replacement

Get a grip

Thought wages don't count if signed before 2010, in terms of FFPR?

 

[inbetween]

Yes, trillionaire businessman Sheikh Mansour couldn't afford to keep Carlos Tevez on £10m a year doing nothing.

rather fucks uo the FIFA Fair play though because presumably we would need a Tevez replacement which aint cheap - we cant afford to keep him but not because of the dosh but because of the Fiar Play Rules - 10 Million a year sat on the books doing fook all plus another 5 - 8 million for his replacement

Get a grip

Thought wages don't count if signed before 2010, in terms of FFPR?

As long as a player is on the books they'll be added to the wage spend. Doesn't really matter when they were signed.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/50/09/12/1500912_DOWNLOAD.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Dow ... WNLOAD.pdf</a>

 

[Pigeonho]

Questions for Pige (any other Tev apologists if they feel like it).

Are you happy with the Timing of Tevez latest "demand"

Do you agree that if it was in his mind to seek to leave he should have made this known to the management and the fans of MCFC immediately after the season finished.

Do you accept that the transfer request mid season was wholly unnacceptable given that at the time we did still have an (albeit outside) chance of winning the PL

How do you feel about footballers, foreign or otherwise signing deals on their bequest for such lengthy terms yet seeking to break said deal less than halfway into them.

The club have gone way beyond the call of duty in trying to keep Carlos happy. Do you agree or disagree with this statement.

Can you honestly say We played like pigs when Tevez was not in our team

Many people believe there has been a will he wont he question mark hanging over Tevez since his initial transfer request, do you think this kind of press is good or bad for the club (one word answer good or bad)

Who is bigger, Manchester City Football Club, or Carlos Alberto Tevez

I'll answer as honest as I can, sir.

The timing of the request isn't ideal, but It's not as bad as some are making out.

We the fans only know of his request now because it is now when he has made his statement. For all we know the management have known a lot longer. If any would be replacements were lined up, the clubs selling that player would slap whatever they wanted ontop of the valuation, because they would know we are desperate because tevez is leaving. If they didn't know he was going though, because we have told him to keep quiet, well we would get that player cheaper. Put it this way, would Newcastle had demanded 35m for Carroll if they didn't know Liverpool were desperate to sign him? No they wouldn't, they knew Liverpool needed a striker though and basically held all the cards.


The mid season request was unacceptable. Definitely.


Footballers will do as they please, foreign or not. I'm not arsed, because its gone on for ages and will continue to do so.


We have most definitely gone all out to keep the player happy, if the media reports are true.


We played better when tevez was out, at times, but the fact of the matter is he scored for fun and those goals were a major factor in us securing CL football. If that's his parting gift as he moves on to yet another club, so be it. Too many people are acting like jilted teenagers and slagging him quite unnecessarily.


Not giving a one word answer as I couldn't care less what the press say in all honesty.


City are bigger than any player, which I would've thought was obvious.


I will finish this inquisition by saying that tevez is what he is. A mercenary. He does what he wants and goes where suits him for the money. We have set him for life financially, he has done what he has been paid to do, and more. There are many players around, some at our club, who get paid well enough to be secure for life but don't do what they are paid to do. Tevez has done more than enough for the club, and if he now wants to move on, so be it. The stick and name calling especially is childish and makes those fans no more better than those who were being slagged off on the arsenal forums for slating clichy.

 

[afro2007]

the guy is just a jerk without nothing to offer,i know ppl here liked him but look what he's been saying about the club and the town itself with no respect to shut is fucking mouth.is a shame we made him what he is now cause we paid him alot more than any club would do.

 

[Skashion]

As long as a player is on the books they'll be added to the wage spend. Doesn't really matter when they were signed.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/50/09/12/1500912_DOWNLOAD.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Dow ... WNLOAD.pdf</a>

If you're going to post a link and make a claim, please do so be so courteous as to actually check the link you're posting. You could have simply done a search for '2010' if you can't be bothered trawling through it to check what someone has said.

Anyway, to quote:

Players under contract before 1 June 2010
If a licensee reports an aggregate break-even deficit that exceeds the
acceptable deviation and it fulfils both conditions described below then this
would be taken into account in a favourable way.

• i) It reports a positive trend in the annual break-even results (proving it has
  implemented a concrete strategy for future compliance); and
• ii) It proves that the aggregate break-even deficit is only due to the annual
  break-even deficit of the reporting period ending in 2012 which in turn is
  due to contracts with players undertaken prior to 1 June 2010 (for the
  avoidance of doubt, all renegotiations on contracts undertaken after such
  date would not be taken into account).

This means that a licensee that reports an aggregate break-even deficit that
exceeds the acceptable deviation but that satisfies both conditions described
under i) and ii) above should in principle not be sanctioned.

pg. 85.

 

[Blue Haze]

Are you happy with the Timing of Tevez latest "demand"

I don't see how anyone could find this timing anything other than pointlessly cruel.

Clichy is now Tevez's teammate. For how long, we don't know. Tevez, who is supposed to be his captain, completely ruins his signing day with an embarrassing and unnecessary announcement mere hours after Clichy's unveiling.

Why do it, except to shit on everyone's happy day? What kind of club captain tries to cause his teammates and fans pain on the day of a new signing? He could have done this back in June.

 

[Dribble]

We can't afford to leave him in the reserves as the highest paid footballer in the country, total nonsense.

Yes, trillionaire businessman Sheikh Mansour couldn't afford to keep Carlos Tevez on £10m a year doing nothing.

Taking a serious stance with Captain Caveman would certainly concentrate the minds of any other players we may acquire in the future. If we don't take a stance with Tevez now and stop the tail from wagging the dog, it could have far reaching consequences for us into the future.

As a point of principle, we should tell him and his snake of an agent that the price for his sale if £50m and is non-negotiable. If he wants to make his sale to another club appear more attractive, he can always offset the fee by lowering his wage demands. If our conditions are not met, Tevez will have to see out his contract as long as he's willing to play to the best of his ability, accept he is no longer club captain and doesn't continue to be a pain in the arse in the dressing room. If not, fuck you Tevez, you steaming lump of dog shit, you can ROT in the reserves!!!!

Sending out the message to all players and agents 'Don't accept Manchester City's money and then start fucking us about' will make the football world sit up and take notice that we can no longer be considered as financial mugs! The good it will do for our standing in world football will more than offset Tevez's £10m a year in wages!!!

 

[Dubai Blue]

Sorry if this been posted before..

It´s from a paper with a direct line to the Al-Nahyans.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalconversation/sport-comment/fidgety-carlos-tevez-may-find-his-options-limited" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.thenational.ae/thenationalco ... ns-limited</a>


Jul 6, 2011
Were Carlos Tevez a cartoon character, the ground the hyperactive hurricane of a striker covered would disappear into clouds of dust. Yet the non-stop running that characterises his play is mirrored in his seeming wanderlust. The general pattern is that, after two seasons anywhere, he heads for the departure lounge.

His quest to leave Manchester City, however, runs several risks. The first is that, as it was at Old Trafford, his legacy will be tarnished. Tevez was once adored by the Manchester United faithful; now he is abused by them.

He may be spared persona non grata status at Eastlands, but the notion of the captain and catalyst remaining a cult hero is unlikely, whether or not he finds new employers.

In one respect his motives are beyond criticism — a father's wish to spend more time with his daughters is entirely understandable — yet his judgement is questionable.

Given the regularity of the upheaval caused by Kia Joorabchian, his agent, City may stop pandering to him. Meanwhile, clubs with the desire and financial resources to pluck Tevez from Eastlands and give the Argentine the income to which he is accustomed are few and far between. For an outstanding footballer, he has few options.

It is possible that a man at the peak of his powers is left to sulk in the reserves. It would be an extraordinary outcome, but then Tevez's incessant movement has made his career an exercise in chaos theory. Normally it bodes badly for opponents. Now it may backfire on him.


Doesn´t it sound a bit threatening in the "rot in the reserves" style?

To even suggest that Richard Jolly of The National is being briefed by the Al Nahyans is stretching things into the realms of fantasy.