Alan Henning - how should we respond?

[bobmcfc]

You can guarantee we will have assets within Isis helping to gain Intel.

Well someone is there marking the bombing targets.

ITs going to be our most important weapon in this fight and now you will see efforts stepped up after what happened to poor Alan, the British publics reaction to this disgusting crime will ensure that justice is served

 

[intheknow!]

Thank you Bigga and Rascal.

Good to see some others thinking logically and not being blinded by emotion.

RIP Alan Henning and ALL the other innocents killed

You reported the sad news and you had an opinion on the matter too. It wasn't controversial (I don't share your opinion) and you are entitled to hold your view and I'm actually saddened by the vitriol aimed at you but I guess it's a case of shooting the messenger. People need to pack in the abuse right now

Thank you Bob xx

Would genuinely like to know what ive said you disagree with tho?

I just cant abide people on here knee jerking about blitzing the place with bombs or nuking them etc. Calling for British troops to be sent to fight an unwinnable war again. How can anyone think that "boots on the ground" is the right thing? It did not work in Afghanistan or Iraq and it wont work now. I dont want anymore money wasted, like the billions that already have been, i dont want anymore british soldiers killed,limbs blown off or mentally damaged.

This is a religious inspired ideological Holy war. Its a showdown between Sunni and Shia that goes back to the time of the Prophets death. The whole Muslim world, especially the Sunnis have been repressed for so long by the Dictators, now they have fallen like dominos all the pent up extremist interpretations are exploding into the open. Its NOT our fight. Its a battle that must be resolved by the Muslim world. Its not for Europeans to be deciding who is allowed to have a state and who isnt. Can anyone seriously argue that things are better now that before Bush and Blair invaded?

I just cant understand why people cannot see ISIS are baiting us out, wanting UK, US etc soldiers on the ground, where they will fight as an insurgency against us on a terrain that favours them. This is not a war we can win and shouldnt even try to. If we send troops back there ISIS will gain more followers and sympthasisers among the people because they will say, "look its the crusaders coming back to repress and kill Muslims again". For a region that for the last decade has only known US and UK bombing them into submission it will resonate.

Before anyone thinks extremist ideology can be defeated by the military, remember this: all of the people who founded and are now leading the ISIS, have at some point been incarcerated in huge American prisons set up in Iraq during the Bush Blair era when thousands of Muslim men were jailed for indefinite periods of time. The minute you kill one ten more will be radicalised.

 

[bobmcfc]

Thank you Bigga and Rascal.

Good to see some others thinking logically and not being blinded by emotion.

RIP Alan Henning and ALL the other innocents killed

You reported the sad news and you had an opinion on the matter too. It wasn't controversial (I don't share your opinion) and you are entitled to hold your view and I'm actually saddened by the vitriol aimed at you but I guess it's a case of shooting the messenger. People need to pack in the abuse right now

Thank you Bob xx

Would genuinely like to know what ive said you disagree with tho?

I just cant abide people on here knee jerking about blitzing the place with bombs or nuking them etc. Calling for British troops to be sent to fight an unwinnable war again. How can anyone think that "boots on the ground" is the right thing? It did not work in Afghanistan or Iraq and it wont work now. I dont want anymore money wasted, like the billions that already have been, i dont want anymore british soldiers killed,limbs blown off or mentally damaged.

This is a religious inspired ideological Holy war. Its a showdown between Sunni and Shia that goes back to the time of the Prophets death. The whole Muslim world, especially the Sunnis have been repressed for so long by the Dictators, now they have fallen like dominos all the pent up extremist interpretations are exploding into the open. Its NOT our fight. Its a battle that must be resolved by the Muslim world. Its not for Europeans to be deciding who is allowed to have a state and who isnt. Can anyone seriously argue that things are better now that before Bush and Blair invaded?

I just cant understand why people cannot see ISIS are baiting us out, wanting UK, US etc soldiers on the ground, where they will fight as an insurgency against us on a terrain that favours them. This is not a war we can win and shouldnt even try to. If we send troops back there ISIS will gain more followers and sympthasisers among the people because they will say, "look its the crusaders coming back to repress and kill Muslims again". For a region that for the last decade has only known US and UK bombing them into submission it will resonate.

Before anyone thinks extremist ideology can be defeated by the military, remember this: all of the people who founded and are now leading the ISIS, have at some point been incarcerated in huge American prisons set up in Iraq during the Bush Blair era when thousands of Muslim men were jailed for indefinite periods of time. The minute you kill one ten more will be radicalised.

I'm not in agreement with regards to nuking but I believe we could have ground troops protecting villages and civilians from Isis. I think protecting people from these dispicable backward thinking murderers is number 1 on our priorities list

Oh and they make it our problem when they behead our citizens

 

[smudgedj]

You can guarantee we will have assets within Isis helping to gain Intel.

LOL Love the terminology.

 

[intheknow!]

You reported the sad news and you had an opinion on the matter too. It wasn't controversial (I don't share your opinion) and you are entitled to hold your view and I'm actually saddened by the vitriol aimed at you but I guess it's a case of shooting the messenger. People need to pack in the abuse right now

Thank you Bob xx

Would genuinely like to know what ive said you disagree with tho?

I just cant abide people on here knee jerking about blitzing the place with bombs or nuking them etc. Calling for British troops to be sent to fight an unwinnable war again. How can anyone think that "boots on the ground" is the right thing? It did not work in Afghanistan or Iraq and it wont work now. I dont want anymore money wasted, like the billions that already have been, i dont want anymore british soldiers killed,limbs blown off or mentally damaged.

This is a religious inspired ideological Holy war. Its a showdown between Sunni and Shia that goes back to the time of the Prophets death. The whole Muslim world, especially the Sunnis have been repressed for so long by the Dictators, now they have fallen like dominos all the pent up extremist interpretations are exploding into the open. Its NOT our fight. Its a battle that must be resolved by the Muslim world. Its not for Europeans to be deciding who is allowed to have a state and who isnt. Can anyone seriously argue that things are better now that before Bush and Blair invaded?

I just cant understand why people cannot see ISIS are baiting us out, wanting UK, US etc soldiers on the ground, where they will fight as an insurgency against us on a terrain that favours them. This is not a war we can win and shouldnt even try to. If we send troops back there ISIS will gain more followers and sympthasisers among the people because they will say, "look its the crusaders coming back to repress and kill Muslims again". For a region that for the last decade has only known US and UK bombing them into submission it will resonate.

Before anyone thinks extremist ideology can be defeated by the military, remember this: all of the people who founded and are now leading the ISIS, have at some point been incarcerated in huge American prisons set up in Iraq during the Bush Blair era when thousands of Muslim men were jailed for indefinite periods of time. The minute you kill one ten more will be radicalised.

I'm not in agreement with regards to nuking but I believe we could have ground troops protecting villages and civilians from Isis. I think protecting people from these dispicable backward thinking murderers is number 1 on our priorities list

Oh and they made it our problem when they behead our citizens

ISIS now control an area the size of Britain stradling parts of two countries (Syria and Iraq), how is it possible to station enough troops around various different villages to protect "civillians" and who exactly are those who need protecting? How will we know who needs protecting and who actually supports ISIS? They will be sitting targets for suicide bombers, IED explosions etc etc. How much is all this gonna cost?

France, Turkey, Italy and Germany have paid ransoms and had their hostages freed. UK Gov could have done the same but they chose not to.

 

[dronefromsector7g]

Thank you Bob xx

Would genuinely like to know what ive said you disagree with tho?

I just cant abide people on here knee jerking about blitzing the place with bombs or nuking them etc. Calling for British troops to be sent to fight an unwinnable war again. How can anyone think that "boots on the ground" is the right thing? It did not work in Afghanistan or Iraq and it wont work now. I dont want anymore money wasted, like the billions that already have been, i dont want anymore british soldiers killed,limbs blown off or mentally damaged.

This is a religious inspired ideological Holy war. Its a showdown between Sunni and Shia that goes back to the time of the Prophets death. The whole Muslim world, especially the Sunnis have been repressed for so long by the Dictators, now they have fallen like dominos all the pent up extremist interpretations are exploding into the open. Its NOT our fight. Its a battle that must be resolved by the Muslim world. Its not for Europeans to be deciding who is allowed to have a state and who isnt. Can anyone seriously argue that things are better now that before Bush and Blair invaded?

I just cant understand why people cannot see ISIS are baiting us out, wanting UK, US etc soldiers on the ground, where they will fight as an insurgency against us on a terrain that favours them. This is not a war we can win and shouldnt even try to. If we send troops back there ISIS will gain more followers and sympthasisers among the people because they will say, "look its the crusaders coming back to repress and kill Muslims again". For a region that for the last decade has only known US and UK bombing them into submission it will resonate.

Before anyone thinks extremist ideology can be defeated by the military, remember this: all of the people who founded and are now leading the ISIS, have at some point been incarcerated in huge American prisons set up in Iraq during the Bush Blair era when thousands of Muslim men were jailed for indefinite periods of time. The minute you kill one ten more will be radicalised.

I'm not in agreement with regards to nuking but I believe we could have ground troops protecting villages and civilians from Isis. I think protecting people from these dispicable backward thinking murderers is number 1 on our priorities list

Oh and they made it our problem when they behead our citizens

ISIS now control an area the size of Britain stradling parts of two countries (Syria and Iraq), how is it possible to station enough troops around various different villages to protect "civillians" and who exactly are those who need protecting? How will we know who needs protecting and who actually supports ISIS? They will be sitting targets for suicide bombers, IED explosions etc etc. How much is all this gonna cost?

France, Turkey, Italy and Germany have paid ransoms and had their hostages freed. UK Gov could have done the same but they chose not to.

As you've already stated many times. What's your solution?

 

[mancityvstoke]

The UN said hundreds have been killed - with militants carrying out summary executions of civilians in Mosul, including 17 civilians in one street.

A dozen Iraqi security personnel were also killed and four women committed suicide after being raped.

I feel sorry for anyone living there who does not agree with these people.

They are just psychopathic gangsters

 

[bobmcfc]

Thank you Bob xx

Would genuinely like to know what ive said you disagree with tho?

I just cant abide people on here knee jerking about blitzing the place with bombs or nuking them etc. Calling for British troops to be sent to fight an unwinnable war again. How can anyone think that "boots on the ground" is the right thing? It did not work in Afghanistan or Iraq and it wont work now. I dont want anymore money wasted, like the billions that already have been, i dont want anymore british soldiers killed,limbs blown off or mentally damaged.

This is a religious inspired ideological Holy war. Its a showdown between Sunni and Shia that goes back to the time of the Prophets death. The whole Muslim world, especially the Sunnis have been repressed for so long by the Dictators, now they have fallen like dominos all the pent up extremist interpretations are exploding into the open. Its NOT our fight. Its a battle that must be resolved by the Muslim world. Its not for Europeans to be deciding who is allowed to have a state and who isnt. Can anyone seriously argue that things are better now that before Bush and Blair invaded?

I just cant understand why people cannot see ISIS are baiting us out, wanting UK, US etc soldiers on the ground, where they will fight as an insurgency against us on a terrain that favours them. This is not a war we can win and shouldnt even try to. If we send troops back there ISIS will gain more followers and sympthasisers among the people because they will say, "look its the crusaders coming back to repress and kill Muslims again". For a region that for the last decade has only known US and UK bombing them into submission it will resonate.

Before anyone thinks extremist ideology can be defeated by the military, remember this: all of the people who founded and are now leading the ISIS, have at some point been incarcerated in huge American prisons set up in Iraq during the Bush Blair era when thousands of Muslim men were jailed for indefinite periods of time. The minute you kill one ten more will be radicalised.

I'm not in agreement with regards to nuking but I believe we could have ground troops protecting villages and civilians from Isis. I think protecting people from these dispicable backward thinking murderers is number 1 on our priorities list

Oh and they made it our problem when they behead our citizens

ISIS now control an area the size of Britain stradling parts of two countries (Syria and Iraq), how is it possible to station enough troops around various different villages to protect "civillians" and who exactly are those who need protecting? How will we know who needs protecting and who actually supports ISIS? They will be sitting targets for suicide bombers, IED explosions etc etc. How much is all this gonna cost?

France, Turkey, Italy and Germany have paid ransoms and had their hostages freed. UK Gov could have done the same and they chose not to.

You talk about cost them say we should pay ransoms ?? I don't know exactly how it could be done as I'm not a specialist in ground warfare and military strategy. I guess the powers that be will figure it all out and decide what we should do. I have no say in it and neither will you

 

[foetus]

The minute you kill one ten more will be radicalised.

Kill them fuckers as well.

 

[smudgedj]

I'm not in agreement with regards to nuking but I believe we could have ground troops protecting villages and civilians from Isis. I think protecting people from these dispicable backward thinking murderers is number 1 on our priorities list

Oh and they made it our problem when they behead our citizens

ISIS now control an area the size of Britain stradling parts of two countries (Syria and Iraq), how is it possible to station enough troops around various different villages to protect "civillians" and who exactly are those who need protecting? How will we know who needs protecting and who actually supports ISIS? They will be sitting targets for suicide bombers, IED explosions etc etc. How much is all this gonna cost?

France, Turkey, Italy and Germany have paid ransoms and had their hostages freed. UK Gov could have done the same but they chose not to.

As you've already stated many times. What's your solution?

PMSL Don't waste your time he's only here to push an agenda and troll the f*** out of everyone.