Albert Rusnak

goalmole said:
citysmurf69 said:
this type of attitude is exactly why, despite showing early promise a lot of our academy graduates don't make it at the top level. what has rusnak achieved so far that would suggest he is too good to play a couple games for oldham reserves, instead of buckling down taken on the challenge an showing the coach he belongs in the first team he messes up a good opportunity to play against stronger more competitive opponents which would have only made him a stronger better player.

now he's back at city playing against little boys an is at least 6-7 players away from any first team action, over 100 competitive minutes of football in 3 appearances isn't that bad it's 100 more than he's gotten at city. i have no doubt in my mind had he played the reserve match an put in the hard work he would of cemented a first team place .
How do you know this. If he isn't good enough to play for Oldham he might as well sack his career off here and now, because i'll tell you what, i bet none of their players would be good enough to play in an international u21 side.
you shouldn't underestimate the lower leagues just because a player doesn't play in the a top league doesn't automatically make them garbage there are a lot of players who stated off in or had good loan spells in lower leagues before going on to make a real impact in top leagues across europe . if he believed in his own talent he would of played the match an shown exactly why he warrants a first team place but instead he gives up at the first sign of trouble even when he comes back his place isn't guaranteed with players like lopes, pozo, cole and a host of other talented players coming up , hope he gets another loan deal because next season he will be 20yrs with no real first team experience.
 
LoveCity said:
How about start sending the ones not (yet) good enough for the main 6/7 leagues to leagues like the Swiss and Belgian. These League 1 loans tend to work out terribly and do nothing much for the player because we're trying to create technical players but the lower English leagues aren't technical at all. Even the Spanish 2nd division would be better. Look at Basel tonight, the quality of some of these smaller leagues is probably pretty good. The Dutch league is very, very challenging for a young player as Boyata, Ibrahim, and Elabdellaoui found out when they all couldn't hack it there.

This very much.

Rusnak could have gone easily to the Dutch league, in my opinion. Look at Adorjan who plays for Liverpool, he already scored a goal for Groningen and is playing for them regularly. Nearly the same age as Rusnak and same experience, as he never played for the first team, only in preseasons.

Lower English sides are not an option for me, look at Rekik. Played really solid games as CB [his natural position] in an extremely young side against AC Milan, whilst at Blackburn they forced him to play a left sided midfielder FFS.
 
johnny on the spot said:
Unprofessional and immature from Rusnak.

You're not entitled to a place in any team, in football or any other activity, unless you've got the stones to put the work in and challenge to prove your value.

I understand that Oldham isn't exactly a glamorous scene, but neither is waiting tables or gardening for a living. You have to apply yourself, take your chances and make the best of yourself. A few games at Platt Lane or Hyde and a forty-odd rating on a FIFA demo does not make you a star. Get on this planet, knuckle the fuck down and pull your head out of your backside. I sincerely hope that Vieira rips this kid a new one for embarrassing the club like this.

Can't argue with this.
 
sjk2008 said:
Didsbury Dave said:
George Hannah said:
Albert sent packing by the Latics

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Got to be a discipline issue.

I think it’s more of a “Billy Big Bollocks” issue, personally.

When I found out we’d got this kid on loan til January, I was impressed, but not totally overwhelmed. Whilst I’d heard many a person on Twitter say that this kid was talented, it wasn’t a position I felt we were weak in (despite what this season’s results may tell you). I know we’d just sold Jose Baxter, but he was a #10, whereas Rusnak, I believe, is more of a winger who likes to cut in. Well we have a few of those already!

Anyway, our performances have been very good this season. We’ve deserved a lot more points than we’ve accrued so far, but unfortunately there’s been too many individual errors, including conceding a penalty in every league game bar one this season, which has contributed to our W2 L5 record so far.

Because of our attacking performances, the opportunity simply hasn’t arose yet for him. He came off the bench whilst we were winning at home to Port Vale but didn’t really stand out in the 15minutes he was on. He started against Shrewsbury but despite us winning 4-1, he again didn’t stand out. He was away for the Preston TV game where we were, IMO, brilliant despite losing, so the team for Rotherham was near enough the same. He did come on for the last 10 minutes but that’s not a lot of time to show what you can do, and that I understand (he may have come on earlier but we were down to 10 men after half an hour).

Since he’d not played in a few games, LJ (our gaffer) decided he could do with a 45 minute refresher so picked him for the reserves and from there, he’s obviously seen his arse. We have no problem in looking at talented Premier League youngsters and bringing them in on loan, but they have to show commitment to the cause and we don’t want anyone from the upper echelons of the Premier League who think they’re too good for something. The fact of the matter is that you play because you deserve to play, not because Manchester City are a bigger club than little Oldham Athletic.

If you’re asked to sit on the bench and wait for the opportunity, bloody do it, and when you do get on the pitch, show us why you were picked up by Manchester City. If you’ve not featured for a couple of games for whatever reason, and you’re asked to play in the reserves to bring your fitness up to scratch, again, bloody do it.

Back when we had Scapuzzi here, there was no doubting his effort and, whilst being too lightweight and simply not good enough for us, let alone the Premier League, the application he put in was impressive and that will always stand in good stead. Andrea Mancini was just dreadful so the less said about that the better.

Hopefully Ruznak will learn from this and go on to be a good player and make it in the Premier League. If he keeps up with this “Billy Big Bollocks” attitude however, then he’ll be shipped off like Scapuzzi was, and deservedly so, despite looking decent in your EDL side.

I’d just like to commend Vieira in all this too, by making him apologise. It’s good to see him understand LJ’s reasonings for what’s happened and why we agreed to send him back, and I’m pleased Vieira viewed the whole thing in a similar light. I don’t think this will hinder any further opportunities for us, should we wish to approach your club for one of your youngsters again in the future.

-- Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:00 pm --

penalty spot said:
I also would be upset if I was Albert Rusnak. Whats the point us loaning him out for experience if they play him in their reserves. He would get better playing time with our elite squad than playing for their reserves. This is going to be a big issue IMO.
All the youngsters are going to want to advance and if this is prevented, then they will feel that our system is failing them. Obviously if they are star quality they will be in the first team squad. We somehow have to keep them happy until they are capable of making the first team.

He may well be a talented player, but if someone thinks he's too good to play for someone, and hasn't done enough in the short time he's been there to warrant a first team start, then that's tough shit.

He would have been here til January. Plenty of time to show us what he could do. Unfortunately for him, he'd not managed to do that (yet), and had he bided his time he may well have done. But the "I'm not playing for their reserves" bollocks, is unacceptable and I'm glad he's gone back.

Good post and it's a pity circumstances weren't different. Hope you manage to keep Tarkowski for the whole season; he looks as if he has the ability and character to play at the top level.
 
Wretched Vengeance said:
johnny on the spot said:
Unprofessional and immature from Rusnak.

You're not entitled to a place in any team, in football or any other activity, unless you've got the stones to put the work in and challenge to prove your value.

I understand that Oldham isn't exactly a glamorous scene, but neither is waiting tables or gardening for a living. You have to apply yourself, take your chances and make the best of yourself. A few games at Platt Lane or Hyde and a forty-odd rating on a FIFA demo does not make you a star. Get on this planet, knuckle the fuck down and pull your head out of your backside. I sincerely hope that Vieira rips this kid a new one for embarrassing the club like this.

Can't argue with this.
With respect he's neither a waiter nor a gardener. The kid is a 19 year old footballer. He wants to develop his career by turning out for a professional side on a regular basis. He isn't going to gain anything by playing for their reserves. He is a talented kid and City have a duty of care to do what is best for his career, if they don't then don't be too surprised if he follows Suarez out of the door the next time another club come calling.The only reason City keep sending these kids to Oldham is because they think it will be good PR to be seen to be helping a lowly neighbour. Care in the community has it's place but this isn't it.
 
goalmole said:
Wretched Vengeance said:
johnny on the spot said:
Unprofessional and immature from Rusnak.

You're not entitled to a place in any team, in football or any other activity, unless you've got the stones to put the work in and challenge to prove your value.

I understand that Oldham isn't exactly a glamorous scene, but neither is waiting tables or gardening for a living. You have to apply yourself, take your chances and make the best of yourself. A few games at Platt Lane or Hyde and a forty-odd rating on a FIFA demo does not make you a star. Get on this planet, knuckle the fuck down and pull your head out of your backside. I sincerely hope that Vieira rips this kid a new one for embarrassing the club like this.

Can't argue with this.
With respect he's neither a waiter nor a gardener. The kid is a 19 year old footballer. He wants to develop his career by turning out for a professional side on a regular basis. He isn't going to gain anything by playing for their reserves. He is a talented kid and City have a duty of care to do what is best for his career, if they don't then don't be too surprised if he follows Suarez out of the door the next time another club come calling.The only reason City keep sending these kids to Oldham is because they think it will be good PR to be seen to be helping a lowly neighbour. Care in the community has it's place but this isn't it.

Yes he is, match fitness which he will need as he has started most games this season on the bench. Rusnak is 90% in the wrong here - Oldham 10% for presumably not communicating with the player/city properly
 
goalmole said:
Wretched Vengeance said:
johnny on the spot said:
Unprofessional and immature from Rusnak.

You're not entitled to a place in any team, in football or any other activity, unless you've got the stones to put the work in and challenge to prove your value.

I understand that Oldham isn't exactly a glamorous scene, but neither is waiting tables or gardening for a living. You have to apply yourself, take your chances and make the best of yourself. A few games at Platt Lane or Hyde and a forty-odd rating on a FIFA demo does not make you a star. Get on this planet, knuckle the fuck down and pull your head out of your backside. I sincerely hope that Vieira rips this kid a new one for embarrassing the club like this.

Can't argue with this.
With respect he's neither a waiter nor a gardener. The kid is a 19 year old footballer. He wants to develop his career by turning out for a professional side on a regular basis. He isn't going to gain anything by playing for their reserves. He is a talented kid and City have a duty of care to do what is best for his career, if they don't then don't be too surprised if he follows Suarez out of the door the next time another club come calling.The only reason City keep sending these kids to Oldham is because they think it will be good PR to be seen to be helping a lowly neighbour. Care in the community has it's place but this isn't it.
If he's not good enough to break into the Oldham squad then I'll drive him to the airport myself, because if he isn't impressing at that level, what chance does he have of making it at ours?
 
He's a nineteen year old rookie, sent out on loan to prove himself. You don't prove yourself as a professional simply by acting the Premier League show pony in the grim leagues. You show professionalism by following instructions and by applying yourself to whatever situation you're placed in. If you really are above that level, it'll be soon evident to those around you, some of whom have been in the game longer than you've been alive.

I want all of our academy lads to do well, but simply seeing your arse because you don't like temporarily playing at a lower level isn't good enough.
 
He lacks one of the key characteristics require to be successful, humanity.
He's not good enough apparently.

My days for being excited about our young prospects are over. Unit they make the first team, I'm not interested.

Once upon a time, I had high hopes for Weiss and that never materialized.
 
My mates Son is a ressie player at Latics and by all accounts Rusnak was very well liked in the dressing room and in training but found the Manager Johnson's love of himself too much and he saw no point in training in useless sessions, and playing in Oldhams reserves as no point when he could train better and in City's reserves as part of his development. Oldham boss has lost dressing room, is in trouble with officials every game and has confrontation with opposite Manager every game ,the team have kept one clean sheet since pre season have lost 5 from last 7 and Rusnak felt his career was in the hands of the wrong manager despite the chance to get some snatched minutes in League One. I say well done Albert for sticking up for yourself and not wanting association with a bad un. Come back home young man. Get your head down and hope the club can find a better loan and person to work for or go back to Latics when he's gone coz despite the unpopularity of the Manager it's always seemed to be a good club. Apparently the players asked the Manager "why do you turn every article in the MEN around to talk about yourself". He didn't laugh and dropped the player who asked the question. He also picks himself in reserves ahead of teenagers desperate for a career and his nickname is "plonker" coz keeps quoting Delboy as "as del boy says to Rodney fortune favours the brave" when he actually says " he who dares wins". Get your head down Albert.
 

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