Alexandole Boris de Pfeffel Johnson

asaluttar said:
The liberal left refers to a rather interesting philosophy that's neither liberal nor left.

And well done, very brave of you to talk about fgm in a room, I am very impressed no parents complained about it.

It is also impressive how much "stuff" happens with just one religion, entirely due to "extremists" (where are all those hindu and jew extremists)
But somehow a huge mass of people, just because they vote republican, stay in middle America or oppose uncontrolled immigration are all - every one of them - far right, racist, Deplorable Nazis
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FGM is more a cultural practice then it is religious.

It is impressive how much ‘stuff’ happens with just one religion. From the suppression of Catholics in the UK to the Spanish Inquisition and more recently the genocide of 6m Jews in the 1940’s to the slaughter of Muslims barely two decades ago in Europe by Christian groups the history of Christianity is drenched in blood, torture and repression. Remarkable that we still stand for it to be honest.
 
Boris Johnson epitomises the modern day politician, a vacuous, slimey fucker who couldn't give a flying fuck about anyone but himself, whatever it takes to get his fat arse in No 10 he will do. I've always voted Tory but people like him, Gove and a good few others have turned me away from them big time..!
 
BobKowalski said:
FGM is more a cultural practice then it is religious.

It is impressive how much ‘stuff’ happens with just one religion. From the suppression of Catholics in the UK to the Spanish Inquisition and more recently the genocide of 6m Jews in the 1940’s to the slaughter of Muslims barely two decades ago in Europe by Christian groups the history of Christianity is drenched in blood, torture and repression. Remarkable that we still stand for it to be honest.
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We don’t
 
Blue Hefner said:
A couple of things;
1 - there are plenty of white phedophile ‘gangs’. Look at the Catholic Church and the BBC, football coaches, for starters

2 - are women ‘forced to cover up’. It’s not something I particularly like seeing but if that’s their choice then it’s their choice. Plenty of white/Christian men force and have forever women to do much worse

3 - FGM. It’s brutal. But very difficult to convict as it would mean the girl testifing against their parents. A very hard sell

4 - there are lots of far-right Christian, white supremacist groups. Particularly in America. I’m sure you remember one running over a women in Charlottesville not so long ago. What about the guy in Canada that shot a loaf of people because he couldn’t get his leg over?

5 - forced marridges, again not something I agree with nor do I agree with honour killings

I think we agree on quite a lot. I think you are just missing a bit of perspective

We do not have to polorise every single debate - let’s agree on what we agree on and take it from there
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Firstly, the church was properly vilified by the media for covering up the rapes. No one suggested you were a racist for criticising, or tried to defend them by citing some other random group of rapists, or the "it's just a minority of priests" line.

Secondly, if you called the church "white rapist gangs" you would genuinely be racist, for suggesting their skin colour was a factor.

Similarly, the supposed racists / white supremacists are not blaming "brown people" or "immigrants" as they know non muslim immigrants are not involved, and indeed themselves victims such as the sikhs.

Ironically the real racists here are those on the other side who casually call them "Asian gangs" - inaccurate, unfair to hindu / sikh immigrants and also insinuating that their ethnic backgrounds are somehow to blame.
 
SWP's back said:
Running Israel.
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Some of them are literally running away from Europe to Israel thanks to the increasing racist attacks on them.

A London based Jewish group which kept track, said 80% of those involved were non white, a pattern collaborated by others in Europe

Must be all those EDL and Millwall supporters I guess
 
The blue phantom said:
Tory party chairman and many MP's telling the **** to apologise. Still nothing from him.
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Why should he apologise for his opinion. It's about time polititions said what they believe rather than weasel around not answering were they stand.
 
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The blue phantom said:
Tory party chairman and many MP's telling the **** to apologise. Still nothing from him.
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Why should he apologise for having an opinion?

I'm sure there are loads of United supporters that would vehemently disagree with views expressed on here... should we demand posters on Bluemoon apologise for calling them and their players crap and saying that they resemble a bog brush.... I don't think there's any more reason for him to apologise than there is posters on Bluemoon.

If you don't like or disagree with what he stats then fair enough argue and debate the point but why demand an apology and be disgusted when he chooses not to?
 
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