Alexis Sanchez

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daztrueblue91 said:
They've signed two good players but one was a free transfer.

Arsenal have a top well rounded squad IMO but lack genuine world class talent in their starting 11.

They should be spending similar to what we, Chelsea and United spend and bringing in top quality.

The wage issue shouldn't even be a problem either. Then could sell Sanchez and quickly rebuild.

However, they don't want to invest. Keeping Sanchez will be seen as some sort of moral victory and will show that Arsenal cannot be bullied but it only disguises their problems.

Keeping Sanchez means they don't have to invest and the fact they are willing to write of £50 million asks serious questions for next season.
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This is a fair assessment. Keeping sanchez nowhere near solves our problems, losing him compounds them.
 
AwayDay said:
Even if keeping him proves to be the wrong decision.
It would be nice to see the club do what the fans want for once.
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You should know more than anyone what happens at a club who don't really listen to their fans.

But clubs have to pick and choose their battles with the fans. Next season no Arsenal fan will remember the club kept Sanchez and give them any credit when he walks on a free.

They'll be demanding that Arsenal replace him with similar quality and then some. That will not come cheap at all.

I'd say I wish Arsenal well in all this but I can't stand your manager who is an utter ****. So I hope this decision spectacularly backfires.
 
AwayDay said:
Even if keeping him proves to be the wrong decision.
It would be nice to see the club do what the fans want for once.
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And that's the real point isn't it-if he leaves then expect dirty childish protests like there was last season by Robbie, DT and Claude.

if you had installed a new manager you wouldn't have given two shiny fucks whether Sanchez had stayed or not because you would have seen fresh ideas and fresh players arrive at the club, its all about Wenger saving face and somehow thinking it will galvanise his relationship with the fans-and you are falling for it.

Its just another transfer window where Arsenal are behaving anything like the big club they think they are, Wenger thinks it empowers him keeping Sanchez but hes just looking more and more of a dinosaur with each passing season.-your whole club lacks real ambition then lambast clubs like City who are forward thinking and agressive-whilst making money I hasten to add.
 
Neville Kneville said:
Fair enough but I would have thought there are also a decent number of Arsenal fans who would prefer to get rid, so if things go pear shaped, it's a recipe for unrest.
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I've not come across any, I think keeping Sanchez is universal among the fans.
If we sell him though, oh boy, riots next season if we start badly.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
They've signed two good players but one was a free transfer.

Arsenal have a top well rounded squad IMO but lack genuine world class talent in their starting 11.

They should be spending similar to what we, Chelsea and United spend and bringing in top quality.

The wage issue shouldn't even be a problem either. Then could sell Sanchez and quickly rebuild.

However, they don't want to invest. Keeping Sanchez will be seen as some sort of moral victory and will show that Arsenal cannot be bullied but it only disguises their problems.

Keeping Sanchez means they don't have to invest and the fact they are willing to write of £50 million asks serious questions for next season.
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Kolasinac is a pretty incredible free signing lets not just disregard him because he was free, in this market that is some coup from Arsenal. I would've loved him here and we did go for him at one point.

They can't spend similar to what we have because they don't have that sort of money. Arsenal physically cannot spend 150m+ a summer, Chelsea haven't spent too big recently their net spend is actually comparatively low to the Manchester clubs. United are on a different planet with revenue streams and like us can do what they want.

The wage issue is a huge problem, the new rules state you can't go over £7m from what you had in the previous year without using income (not TV money) to buffer it. EG Arsenal would usually use the CL money to sort this, now they don't have that they have to use transfer fee's and sales to balance the wage books.

For them, keeping Alexis for 7m a year, adding Lemar and potentially Seri after sales of deadwood makes them much, much stronger than if they sell Alexis for 50m, bring in say Mahrez, Lemar and Seri and also with that strengthen a rival.

We're contradicting ourselves a bit here, saying Arsenal have the money to spend like us but then saying they should take £50m for Alexis otherwise its financially stupid.
 
flb said:
And that's the real point isn't it-if he leaves then expect dirty childish protests like there was last season by Robbie, DT and Claude.

if you had installed a new manager you wouldn't have given two shiny fucks whether Sanchez had stayed or not because you would have seen fresh ideas and fresh players arrive at the club, its all about Wenger saving face and somehow thinking it will galvanise his relationship with the fans-and you are falling for it.

Its just another transfer window where Arsenal are behaving anything like the big club they think they are, Wenger thinks it empowers him keeping Sanchez but hes just looking more and more of a dinosaur with each passing season.
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If we changed managers and sold Sanchez, riots still.
Attention just turns from Wenger to Kroenke, 50k already signed a petition for him to leave this week. Selling Sanchez would more than double it.
 
AwayDay said:
This is a fair assessment. Keeping sanchez nowhere near solves our problems, losing him compounds them.
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Losing him only compounds them if you don't replace him. Something you will have to do next season anyway.

The situation is that you could have the £40 million you were willing to spend on Lemar plus the £50 million you could acquire from Sanchez and sign a top quality long-term replacement.

That way next season you are kicking on rather than playing catch-up and are better off financially.
 
AgueroSilva said:
Kolasinac is a pretty incredible free signing lets not just disregard him because he was free, in this market that is some coup from Arsenal. I would've loved him here and we did go for him at one point.

They can't spend similar to what we have because they don't have that sort of money. Arsenal physically cannot spend 150m+ a summer, Chelsea haven't spent too big recently their net spend is actually comparatively low to the Manchester clubs. United are on a different planet with revenue streams and like us can do what they want.

The wage issue is a huge problem, the new rules state you can't go over £7m from what you had in the previous year without using income (not TV money) to buffer it. EG Arsenal would usually use the CL money to sort this, now they don't have that they have to use transfer fee's and sales to balance the wage books.

For them, keeping Alexis for 7m a year, adding Lemar and potentially Seri after sales of deadwood makes them much, much stronger than if they sell Alexis for 50m, bring in say Mahrez, Lemar and Seri and also with that strengthen a rival.

We're contradicting ourselves a bit here, saying Arsenal have the money to spend like us but then saying they should take £50m for Alexis otherwise its financially stupid.
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Definite contradictions on the Sanchez sale or not scenario.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
Losing him only compounds them if you don't replace him. Something you will have to do next season anyway.

The situation is that you could have the £40 million you were willing to spend on Lemar plus the £50 million you could acquire from Sanchez and sign a top quality long-term replacement.

That way next season you are kicking on rather than playing catch-up and are better off financially.
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Yes we are only delaying the problem for a season, but not having CL, and with neymar going for 200m,now is probably the worst time to try to sign a world class player.
Lemar will never be a Sanchez.
 
Neville Kneville said:
There were a reasonable number of fams & bluds in the background chrping in with 'sell him' on the Arse TV thing I saw.
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Arsenal Fan TV is at best comic entertainment, at worst an irritating whine.
Stop watching it if you're looking for a representative view of what Arsenal fans think. Arsenal Fan TV is nothing but a parody.
 
daztrueblue91 said:
Losing him only compounds them if you don't replace him. Something you will have to do next season anyway.

The situation is that you could have the £40 million you were willing to spend on Lemar plus the £50 million you could acquire from Sanchez and sign a top quality long-term replacement.

That way next season you are kicking on rather than playing catch-up and are better off financially.
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There isn't really a replacement out there below £80m that could do what Alexis does. And especially not one who would join Arsenal currently.
 
AgueroSilva said:
There isn't really a replacement out there below £80m that could do what Alexis does. And especially not one who would join Arsenal currently.
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Exactly.
We can't attract anyone as good even if we had the money.
We have no choice really, but to keep him, it's more out of desperation than strength, but it's necessary.
 
AgueroSilva said:
Mbappe is 100x more difficult than Alexis and I think theres close to 0 chance of Mbappe happening. Alexis is 50/50 though, could hand in a transfer request.
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I think a transfer request would be a game changer, but there are no noises of that going in.
 
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