'All Or Nothing' - discussion of documentary

[Pleatfooted]

You won't like dipperdom episode 7, I was really tempted to hit fast forward.

Ha ,I can feel my temper brewing already!

 

[BlueAnorak]

Manuel Estiarte

Fuck me; we've got an ex water polo player as Fraudiola's chief confidant. It should be someone like Pearcey, a good, honest, proud Englishman and a football person. Get these Spanish chancers out of the club.

I'm still none the wiser as to what he actually does.

Team sports phychology, team preparation, team relationships - a football outsider looking in. Water Polo is the toughest team sport in he world.
Pep appreciates his words of wisdom. Pep wants him, so Pep gets him.

 

[quiet_riot]

Watched the lot and my wife and I really enjoyed it, but, I'll probably not watch it again. It has a handful of revealing moments, most of the Pep team talks are made incomprehensible by bad sound and Pep's all round incomprehensibility, for a documentary about a football team there's very little about football, so anyone coming to it not knowing much about last season probably won't understand just how monumental breaking all those records was.

Nothing about Sergio's taxi accident? I still don't know what Kiddo does, as for the attack on the bus, I'm none the wiser and would it not have added to the story to reveal that Liverpool went on to lose the CL final? Very little of anything was explored in depth, nothing about Pep's relationship with the media, or how the media treats us generally, the poor refereeing, the time wasting, the systematic fouling as a deliberate tactic, or our relationship with the football establishment.

On the whole a piece a corporate fluff sprinkled with fly on the wall camera angles and a bit of swearing, with a narrative bolted on for those who usually watch their sport eating popcorn and swigging Budweiser. There was just enough real stuff to make it look real, but it wasn't.

Oh! And Kingsley narrated it in his sleep.

It serves its purpose and will be consumed all over the world, but as a sports documentary it'll be forgotten.

Tend to agree.

Having watched the NFL docos, they have so much more in them about the people - away from the sport. The manager at home with his wife and dogs, reminiscing about his kids growing up around the sport, the rookie QB settling into a new home surrounded by friends etc etc.

Other than a garish Fernandinho party, Sergio showing some shirts, there wasn'rt much else outside of the football. Not a single thing about Pep when he take a second to switch off, apart from a couple of golf swings...still at the CFA

 

[kaz7]

Watched the lot and my wife and I really enjoyed it, but, I'll probably not watch it again. It has a handful of revealing moments, most of the Pep team talks are made incomprehensible by bad sound and Pep's all round incomprehensibility, for a documentary about a football team there's very little about football, so anyone coming to it not knowing much about last season probably won't understand just how monumental breaking all those records was.

Nothing about Sergio's taxi accident? I still don't know what Kiddo does, as for the attack on the bus, I'm none the wiser and would it not have added to the story to reveal that Liverpool went on to lose the CL final? Very little of anything was explored in depth, nothing about Pep's relationship with the media, or how the media treats us generally, the poor refereeing, the time wasting, the systematic fouling as a deliberate tactic, or our relationship with the football establishment.

On the whole a piece a corporate fluff sprinkled with fly on the wall camera angles and a bit of swearing, with a narrative bolted on for those who usually watch their sport eating popcorn and swigging Budweiser. There was just enough real stuff to make it look real, but it wasn't.

Oh! And Kingsley narrated it in his sleep.

It serves its purpose and will be consumed all over the world, but as a sports documentary it'll be forgotten.

Fucking hell lol,if thats all you got out of it ifeel bad for you

 

[TonyM]

After watching most of the episodes I now fear that Peps time with us and our success is fleeting. The intensity is so high that it surely will burn out soon. IMO we have this season and next season at most before it’ll change significantly.

I hope we are planning ahead.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Fucking hell lol,if thats all you got out of it ifeel bad for you

I consume everything City, I love the club and enjoyed the series but step back a bit and ask yourself, was it that good? You enjoyed it no doubt, as did I, but was it a good sports documentary? As quiet_riot said there was so much it could have done but didn't.

It was a missed opportunity.

 

[EL APACHE TEVEZ]

Thought Delph was brilliant

 

[whp.blue]

I enjoyed it but couldn't get past Ben Kingsley his voice over made it sound like you were watching an episose of The Office.

 

[Bigga]

I'm only on Ep 1, as my download kept seizing up on me!

So, I'm watching Pep give a training session and he says something along the lines of '...that's for English teams to do, we don't do that!' when it came to play.

Am I reading too much into it or does Pep galvanise the team by making them believe they are not a team in England...?

Super interesting if this is the way he gets his international players to gel!

 

[Gabriel]

Intrigued to see in the early episodes that there was a vacant locker in the dressing room, which was next to the goalkeepers. It was later taken by Laporte so does anyone know if there are empty/unnamed locker spaces this season?

 

[lancs blue]

Tend to agree.

Having watched the NFL docos, they have so much more in them about the people - away from the sport. The manager at home with his wife and dogs, reminiscing about his kids growing up around the sport, the rookie QB settling into a new home surrounded by friends etc etc.

Other than a garish Fernandinho party, Sergio showing some shirts, there wasn'rt much else outside of the football. Not a single thing about Pep when he take a second to switch off, apart from a couple of golf swings...still at the CFA

There was so much going on that was centred on the football last season that I'm sure they had to leave a lot of other footage out. It was hardly a "routine" season where the aspects you mention could be included without losing some of the footballing drama.

 

[decmancity]

Intrigued to see in the early episodes that there was a vacant locker in the dressing room, which was next to the goalkeepers. It was later taken by Laporte so does anyone know if there are empty/unnamed locker spaces this season?

Yaya's probably the only one, taken by Mahrez I guess.

 

[Gabriel]

Watched the lot and my wife and I really enjoyed it, but, I'll probably not watch it again. It has a handful of revealing moments, most of the Pep team talks are made incomprehensible by bad sound and Pep's all round incomprehensibility, for a documentary about a football team there's very little about football, so anyone coming to it not knowing much about last season probably won't understand just how monumental breaking all those records was.

Nothing about Sergio's taxi accident? I still don't know what Kiddo does, as for the attack on the bus, I'm none the wiser and would it not have added to the story to reveal that Liverpool went on to lose the CL final? Very little of anything was explored in depth, nothing about Pep's relationship with the media, or how the media treats us generally, the poor refereeing, the time wasting, the systematic fouling as a deliberate tactic, or our relationship with the football establishment.

On the whole a piece a corporate fluff sprinkled with fly on the wall camera angles and a bit of swearing, with a narrative bolted on for those who usually watch their sport eating popcorn and swigging Budweiser. There was just enough real stuff to make it look real, but it wasn't.

Oh! And Kingsley narrated it in his sleep.

It serves its purpose and will be consumed all over the world, but as a sports documentary it'll be forgotten.

Tend to agree. It’s enjoyable to watch as a supporter, but I doubt I’d have made it to the end if it had been any other team.

 

[GX Blue]

Starting episode two now, enjoying it minus the cuts to the fans. Always the weird ones isn’t it.

Haha it really is.

 

[GX Blue]

Watched all 8.

Wasn’t keen on episode 7 but what can you do.

Episode 8 was great. Think my hay fever kicked in when David Silva did his speech with his kid.

All in all, Peps a bit odd but in a genius like way ha! What a season. Can see me watching this in the future over and over.

 

[shevtheblue]

Tend to agree. It’s enjoyable to watch as a supporter, but I doubt I’d have made it to the end if it had been any other team.

Bit of a weird one, you would think that Amazon knowing that this is going out worldwide and that City don't have the same exposure as the rags, would probably need some extra work putting in for non-football and casual fans to understand. There's a small feature at the start about how City haven't been as successful as Utd but more should have been done to describe the Premiership, how its different to other leagues and building that up slowly would have had a bigger effect when it came to the end of the season records and especially the way the team played.

At the end of it you would probably think as a non fan 'oh they won it, nice one', instead of the recognition that season truly deserves.

Still, overall it was a good watch if only for a few of the butterfly in stomach moments. Quite a good use of the music, which i felt was a bit of a rip off of the Interstellar movie.

 

[Blue Maverick]

I liked the way Pep motivated them for the records by putting them up and they hit everyone.
For me it seemed very much like the City TV stuff but a bit more polished. Like some say it didn’t follow what players did outside the club like the NFL but beating in kind in the NFL the max games they play is around 19 and the season is only from Sept-Jannat the most. I know pre season is in there so slightly longer but not then nitty gritty of the season.
For any city fan it seemed to jump around in the season a lot as well, in one instance we had lifted the trophy but they had shown games after it before showing the Huddersfield game.

 

[shevtheblue]

I liked the way Pep motivated them for the records by putting them up and they hit everyone.

The most interesting bit of this, for me, was when Pep started talking about the records and saying he wouldn't demand any of them but would put them around the CFA for players to look at and use as motivation. When he realised that the players weren't putting in the effort in warm ups and training, he went a full 360 on it and went mental at them, think he said 'i fucking want all the records, i demand it' or something along those lines. Was brilliant to watch.

 

[Benarbia’s Backheel]

Just finished. Absolutely fantastic.

It’s so great to get that insight into what goes on in the changing rooms, and hearing pep’s talks, and seeing how much the players and staff care about our amazing club.

Sky sports need cameras in the changing rooms. I would enjoy that side of it almost as much as the matches.

might watch it again now!

 

[BlueDan91]

I wonder if when the day comes when Pep eventually leaves us it will be Arteta who takes the reins?

I may be reading into it too much but I'm sure when arteta is being interviewed near the beginning he says pep convinced him to come "to come work with him at a club and then when he leaves it will be my club "

I thought that was him saying he plans to take over at city and we have a succession plan.