All Star Premier League Game

Complete joke, although it's no surprise with these Yanks, they will do all they can to destroy our beautiful game.

They don't understand our culture or our sports.
One thing I would say, in response to understanding our culture is; if you could turn back the clock 32 years but this forum existed and he’d said:
We should have a premier league, we should have promotion play offs for all divisions, we should outlaw the back pass to the goalkeeper, we should have a European Cup that countries can have 4 teams in, we should use video technology to assist referees and we should have 5 substitutes from a named list of 15.

Imagine the outpouring of rage about his lack of understanding of tradition had he said any or all the above.
 
It won’t work because it requires the Clubs to collaborate and agree to risk their multi-million pound investments to make more money for the League itself.

Clubs over here have developed individually and organically, and have cultivated their identity and distinctiveness based on the city they come from - with very close ties to their local areas and communities. These ties are what their success and identity has always been based on.

Their position in the League is based on their own competitiveness within a tiered League structure - not on the League itself. They have the opportunity to climb the League structure and compete at the top based entirely on their own performance. Or to drop out of it too. Clubs make commercial decisions and take risks to grow individually - and win or lose based on their own decisions.

Whilst the top teams all play in the same League, their success is seen as individual and based on merit.

In the US, franchises are owned and granted by the MLS - and owe their existence to a decision made by the League itself. Franchises are run entirely as businesses, granted and located based on an analysis of the potential commercial market in a city for an MLS team, and can in theory move cities if the market opportunity is more favourable elsewhere.

Whilst operated as franchises, the individual teams are still ‘owned’ by the League itself. The franchises owe their existence and their success to the League, so dance to their tune.

They are already split regionally between East and West to enable more teams in a league, and therefore more revenue, so already have a sense of ‘competition’ between East and West. And crucially there is a market based on this split.

Players are also owned collectively within the League, with their contracts being held centrally. They are the property of the League, not the individual clubs. The League can dictate what they do, and holds the liability if they get injured.

These are clear fundamental structural and commercial differences between the PL and the MLS.

Getting a group of entirely separately owned and managed Clubs to agree to put aside their individual differences and interests - not to mention their vital ties to their locations - and agree to risk the very best players they own (on who their individual success is based) to generate revenue for the League itself is a complete fucking nonsense.

The reality is to make this happen, the League would have to pay a fortune to the individual Clubs to get them to agree to release their players - which immediately limits the potential for a game like this to generate the kind of profit it would need to be worth its while.

In addition, there is no clear evidence of any fan interest in or market for a North/South team which would be capable of generating anywhere near the revenues he’s talking about anyway. He’s not operating in a market entirely based around a broad regional split over here.

Given the lack of a developed market, and the eye-watering costs needed to pay the individual clubs to release their players, I would suggest Boehly would have a tough time arguing this makes much financial sense at all. Which unfortunately seems to be the crux of his argument.

It works in the US because the League holds all the power, and ultimately owns all the franchise and player contracts. They own all the risk, and due to the structure over there are able to mandate a game like this irrespective of the individual franchise opinions.

The fact he seems to be brushing aside (or even worse, simply not grasping at all) the fundamental structural and commercial differences between the two League situations is both alarming and baffling for an owner of an English team.

All he needs is 14 votes. If it's such an American idea, I would guess the Glazers, FSG, Shahid Khan, The 49ers (Leeds), Stan Kroenke, Tag Worldwide (Palace) and Wesley Edens (Villa) could all be persuaded given they're American and have seen it work.

So he's probably already got 8 votes already.

So you need 6 more. There's obviosly a group for whome this represents zero risk - Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Forest etc. They're not going to lose players to an All Star but stand to make a lot of money.

Then there's the group of owners who just want to make money.
 
are people forgetting end of season competitions like Emirates Cup, Audi Cup, Asia Trophy etc ?

All these are just money spinners, don't see how a one off All-Star Game is any different

Because the Emirates cup, audi cup etc is played by the company that employs you. It's your employers decision.

This all star stuff isnt playing for for employer or country. Cant see clubs agreeing to release their players
 
One thing I would say, in response to understanding our culture is; if you could turn back the clock 32 years but this forum existed and he’d said:
We should have a premier league, we should have promotion play offs for all divisions, we should outlaw the back pass to the goalkeeper, we should have a European Cup that countries can have 4 teams in, we should use video technology to assist referees and we should have 5 substitutes from a named list of 15.

Imagine the outpouring of rage about his lack of understanding of tradition had he said any or all the above.
The game has always evolved, but once you fake things your on dangerous ground.

VAR is a case in point, it could be if used correctly brilliant but at this moment is a utter disaster.

With the English game, club football has and always be No1, the all-star nonsense has no place here.
 
The game has always evolved, but once you fake things your on dangerous ground.

VAR is a case in point, it could be if used correctly brilliant but at this moment is a utter disaster.

You are just inventing an arbitrary line between "real" evolution and "fake" evolution based on what you like, or are used to.
 
You are just inventing an arbitrary line between "real" evolution and "fake" evolution based on what you like, or are used to.
All star games are as fake as f***, just like charity/testimonial games, even pre season games, it's not competitive football.

And once you take away that, the game is over
 
The game has always evolved, but once you fake things your on dangerous ground.

VAR is a case in point, it could be if used correctly brilliant but at this moment is a utter disaster.

With the English game, club football has and always be No1, the all-star nonsense has no place here.
But it hasn’t always evolved though. Those changes I mentioned have all happened in the last 30 years and none of them were by accident, all were by design. I don’t remember anyone pushing for any of them, in any concerted way but here we are, we’ve got them all.
On balance, I’d rather Boely came out and said this stuff than behave like the other American owners, and our own to be fair, in announcing they were forming a European Super League, which they all seem to have got away with. Given the choice of an end of season North v South or a ESL with no promotion or relegation I’d take the Chelsea mans proposal every time….
 
One thing I would say, in response to understanding our culture is; if you could turn back the clock 32 years but this forum existed and he’d said:
We should have a premier league, we should have promotion play offs for all divisions, we should outlaw the back pass to the goalkeeper, we should have a European Cup that countries can have 4 teams in, we should use video technology to assist referees and we should have 5 substitutes from a named list of 15.

Imagine the outpouring of rage about his lack of understanding of tradition had he said any or all the above.

Unfortunately football has got a lot of people who think that traditions all just came about out of thin air sometime before 1980 and that's where football should be fixed.

Imagine how people would react if the Football League just announced a new cup competition like they did in 1960?

Or imagine the transplanting the fury when the European Cup was brought in and Chelsea were forbidden to enter because it "wasn't in the best interests of English football" from 1958 to 2022 with social media and forums.
 

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