All Star Premier League Game

[domalino]

All star games are as fake as f***, just like charity/testimonial games, even pre season games, it's not competitive football.

And once you take away that, the game is over

Yes, it's a charity game, probably in preseason.

Why would it be anything else but just like a charity or preseason game?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

All he needs is 14 votes. If it's such an American idea, I would guess the Glazers, FSG, Shahid Khan, The 49ers (Leeds), Stan Kroenke, Tag Worldwide (Palace) and Wesley Edens (Villa) could all be persuaded given they're American and have seen it work.

So he's probably already got 8 votes already.

So you need 6 more. There's obviosly a group for whome this represents zero risk - Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Forest etc. They're not going to lose players to an All Star but stand to make a lot of money.

Then there's the group of owners who just want to make money.

Wait ‘til it starts and clubs refuse to release their players for an all star game on the moon.

How much can one game make? Let’s take Boehly’s word and say €200m. The clubs with players invested in the game would no doubt be paid more than those that don’t, so the little teams might get $5m, but that’s still makes them worse off in PL terms,

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Unfortunately football has got a lot of people who think that traditions all just came about out of thin air sometime before 1980 and that's where football should be fixed.

Imagine how people would react if the Football League just announced a new cup competition like they did in 1960?

Or imagine the transplanting the fury when the European Cup was brought in and Chelsea were forbidden to enter because it "wasn't in the best interests of English football" from 1958 to 2022 with social media and forums.

Yep. Tradition is a word used to mean keep everything as I like it (or as I know it).

 

[Keeper!]

Unfortunately football has got a lot of people who think that traditions all just came about out of thin air sometime before 1980 and that's where football should be fixed.

Imagine how people would react if the Football League just announced a new cup competition like they did in 1960?

Or imagine the transplanting the fury when the European Cup was brought in and Chelsea were forbidden to enter because it "wasn't in the best interests of English football" from 1958 to 2022 with social media and forums.

Please tell me what the advantage of an all star game is, North vs South, ?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

All star games are as fake as f***, just like charity/testimonial games, even pre season games, it's not competitive football.

And once you take away that, the game is over

It’s as likely to happen as the 39th game.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Please tell me what the advantage of an all star game is, North vs South, ?

Barm vs muffin.

 

[Keeper!]

Yes, it's a charity game, probably in preseason.

Why would it be anything else but just like a charity or preseason game?

Because non competitive games are utter dross, and I would imagine the players involved would be very much against it, unless they are paid.

Boley wants the money to go into the football pyramid, the Premier league makes enough cash already, if he is so concerned about the lower leagues, maybe he should have bought a team down there and pumped in his 'friends" cash rather than Chelsea.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Please tell me what the advantage of an all star game is, North vs South, ?

be cool to see

Salah and Haaland against Ogbonna and Rice

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

be cool to see

Salah and Haaland against Ogbonna and Rice

It wouldn’t. International football shows that it’s worse because teams don’t play together often enough.

The imagine it as an international friendly, where the result doesn’t matter, it’s just played so the players get a ring or some other token shite.

What you’ve created is Soccer Aid.

 

[Nicholas van Whatsisface]

All he needs is 14 votes. If it's such an American idea, I would guess the Glazers, FSG, Shahid Khan, The 49ers (Leeds), Stan Kroenke, Tag Worldwide (Palace) and Wesley Edens (Villa) could all be persuaded given they're American and have seen it work.

So he's probably already got 8 votes already.

So you need 6 more. There's obviosly a group for whome this represents zero risk - Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, Forest etc. They're not going to lose players to an All Star but stand to make a lot of money.

Then there's the group of owners who just want to make money.

Oh I’m sure he could get the votes given the reality is this would only impact the top teams.

If you look at the Sky mock ups as an example of the potential North and South teams, the North was all City and Liverpool with two from United, and the South was mostly Chelsea, Arsenal and Tottenham with one from West Ham.

For the rest, it’s pretty much a free pass.

And given Liverpool, United, Chelsea and Arsenal are all US owned - and ENIC at Spurs might as well be - then I doubt he’d struggle for votes.

The problem I was highlighting was this would cost a fortune in a way it simply doesn’t in the US, as the League would have to negotiate with the individual clubs to release their players, as they wouldn’t be playing for their clubs anymore - which would not be easy.

Let’s look at City - who (based on the mock ups) would be required to release Ederson, Dias, Cancelo, de Bruyne, Rodri and Haaland. And that’s just for the starting 11.

Given the risk is all with City for those players, I’d imagine we’d be asking for a small fortune to release them. Replicate that across the rest of the top 6, and that’s a chunk of your profits eaten up already.

That problem simply doesn’t exist in the MLS, with central player contracting.

Then look at the lack of evidence of any market or appetite for watching a North/South team in comparison to the US.

The East and West split over there is fundamental to the MLS. The competition between the coasts is a real, established and marketable concept. Hence it can raise the kind of figures he’s talking about.

There’s nothing suggesting the same market exists over here, where the club’s links to their cities are way more ingrained.

So you’ve got much higher costs, and a much less established market. Therefore less profit for the League.

It works in the US because the League structure is completely different to the PL.

Putting aside all other arguments, purely from a commercial perspective - with our model over here, it’s a shit idea.