Altercation at Terminal 2

Johnny Mars Bar said:
In any other country in the world they’d have just shot the prick and rightly so.

Should be grateful he’s only got a sore head.
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You like the police in other countries being judge, jury and executioner?

You have no idea of what led up to that video, you have no idea what the people being held by the police have done or not done.

People should let the investigation play out before taking sides based on their own prejudices.
 
Semper aggressus said:
Definitely ‘b’.

As a frequent flyer I’d like to know the police take a zero tolerance approach at airports. If you act like a twat and they have reason to believe you may be a security risk in a crowded and vulnerable area then the police should deal with that whatever it takes.

It’s easy to avoid being kicked in the head at an airport - don’t act like a fucking prick and don’t assault security staff who are there for everyone’s safety.
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Very true, just comply to what they requested in first place.
 
Semper aggressus said:
Definitely ‘b’.

As a frequent flyer I’d like to know the police take a zero tolerance approach at airports. If you act like a twat and they have reason to believe you may be a security risk in a crowded and vulnerable area then the police should deal with that whatever it takes.

It’s easy to avoid being kicked in the head at an airport - don’t act like a fucking prick and don’t assault security staff who are there for everyone’s safety.
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Is the correct answer
 
argyle said:
You like the police in other countries being judge, jury and executioner?

You have no idea of what led up to that video, you have no idea what the people being held by the police have done or not done.

People should let the investigation play out before taking sides based on their own prejudices.
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mate there's countless witnesses saying the culprit attacked the police. What more do you want?
 
Eccles Blue said:
One thing that always comes to my mind when I see these videos... do folk have their phones permanently on camera mode ready for something like this?
I have to put in my password and then find the camera app which takes a little while... (I'm old remember!!) But these things seem to be wham there online immediately.
Just a thought.
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It had probably been going on a while ....which is why we don't have the full context and we are just fucking around chatting shyte.
 
Eccles Blue said:
One thing that always comes to my mind when I see these videos... do folk have their phones permanently on camera mode ready for something like this?
I have to put in my password and then find the camera app which takes a little while... (I'm old remember!!) But these things seem to be wham there online immediately.
Just a thought.
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haha yeah, and then I'm filming my own face....
 
Eccles Blue said:
One thing that always comes to my mind when I see these videos... do folk have their phones permanently on camera mode ready for something like this?
I have to put in my password and then find the camera app which takes a little while... (I'm old remember!!) But these things seem to be wham there online immediately.
Just a thought.
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It’s likely the reason we only ever see half the context. By the time people start filming, the initial incident has moved on and we are then left to guess why it happened and who’s at fault. It’s pretty much the same with every incident similar to this where the public are having an altercation with anyone in authority.
Don’t feel bad about getting old. :-)
 
BerkshireBlue said:
mate there's countless witnesses saying the culprit attacked the police. What more do you want?
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To let the investigation play out rather than taking sides immediately?

You're taking the police at their word and some witnesses accounts that you've probably read on twitter.

You don't know what happened, you don't know what led up to it.

People on here, and social media, have quickly jumped into believing the police were wrong or the police were right, without knowing what the hell actually happened.

There's also people taking the police side because of their dislike of Muslims.
 
Eccles Blue said:
One thing that always comes to my mind when I see these videos... do folk have their phones permanently on camera mode ready for something like this?
I have to put in my password and then find the camera app which takes a little while... (I'm old remember!!) But these things seem to be wham there online immediately.
Just a thought.
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But these particular filming incidents are not instant, are they?

You have to think about escalation to decide when to film. If there's been shouting, the first thing wouldn't be to grab a phone. When contact begins, that's different and so it's likely the whole incident isn't captured and leads to feeding the trolls.
 
The officer has been suspended as he should be while the investigating officer finds out the facts, that’s how we do things.
The female officer looks upset by the incident, it’s not standard police practice to kick the head/face in, it’s so dangerous

Edit: that’s how we do things NOW in the sixties you got your head kicked in; who remembers the battle of Piccadilly ? no one but back then the cops joined in the fight
 
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Eccles Blue said:
Mind you being me, I'd be so interested in watching that I'd totally forget about my phone. It's the same when I used to go hill walking. I was more interested in the scenery itself than a photographic image!!
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Tell that to phone twats at the match
 
Eccles Blue said:
Mind you being me, I'd be so interested in watching that I'd totally forget about my phone. It's the same when I used to go hill walking. I was more interested in the scenery itself than a photographic image!!
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Generational thing I suppose-same reason I dont always answer my phone, because its not glued to my hand-and its on silent, no notifications-nothing.
 
argyle said:
To let the investigation play out rather than taking sides immediately?

You're taking the police at their word and some witnesses accounts that you've probably read on twitter.

You don't know what happened, you don't know what led up to it.

People on here, and social media, have quickly jumped into believing the police were wrong or the police were right, without knowing what the hell actually happened.

There's also people taking the police side because of their dislike of Muslims.
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BBC and the Guardian actually
 
BerkshireBlue said:
quick question would you

a) take a risk of trying to arrest him whilst he's on the floor which might fail and end up with a gun in the wrong hands in an airport
or
b) spark the guy out then arrest him without any risk
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He didn't even achieve b) though, so pretty pointless really. And likely to cost him his career and (potentially) freedom.
 
BerkshireBlue said:
quick question would you

a) take a risk of trying to arrest him whilst he's on the floor which might fail and end up with a gun in the wrong hands in an airport
or
b) spark the guy out then arrest him without any risk
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Not really sure what being in an airport has to do about anything. What do you expect some random guy to do if he successfully gets a gun from an officer that wouldn't happen anywhere else? Is it better for him to get a gun off an officer at a Train Station, or a Museum, or some other public place?

Is he going to make his way from the car park, through the terminal, through security, on to a plane and then demand it be flown off with a load of hostages so he can make an escape?

As for option B, he didn't even knock him out, so hardly risk free in that sense. He also increased the volatility of the situation by using that force with a crowd of people around him.
 
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