Altercation at Terminal 2

SebastianBlue said:
I appreciate you posting this in good faith.

If true, along with the video, I think the assailants will receive very severe charges, as well as the officer that got back up and kicked/stomped the assailant that was laying facedown on the floor. The reports and video other officers acted lawfully and courageously given the circumstances throughout and likely deserve commendation.

And, again, if all true, I think that would be the correct outcome.
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Before I read it all at the start it says would I support the police beating us within an inch of our lives, just with it being this thread do you mean beating us within an inch of our lives or kicking us in the face leaving us with no visible marks or hospital stay required?

If it’s the latter and I’d twatted a female copper breaking her nose, twatted another female copper a few times and knocked a male copper unconscious while my mate beat him round the back of the head then yes I support it

I think if you ever behave like that you should get a good kick in the face
 
bluemc1 said:
Before I read it all at the start it says would I support the police beating us within an inch of our lives, just with it being this thread do you mean beating us within an inch of our lives or kicking us in the face leaving us with no visible marks or hospital stay required?

If it’s the latter and I’d twatted a female copper breaking her nose, twatted another female copper a few times and knocked a male copper unconscious while my mate beat him round the back of the head then yes I support it

I think if you ever behave like that you should get a good kick in the face
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I took out that bit because I realised it was unnecessary. But the premise would have been the police beating causing a hospital stay.

And it was just meant to present a situation that, on the surface, would seem very similar to this one, but was in fact no where near as serious, and illustrate that I doubt many people on here would say it was fine for the police to nearly kill them over it.
 
manimanc said:
Absolutely disgusting that a policeman could carry out such violence in full view of the public.

Did you see the policewoman in absolute tears and heaving at what she'd just witnessed.

This **** needs feeding to the lions, what he did was embarrassing but not surprising. He obviously has racist undertones flowing through his veins.

I'd expect the shithouse to be hanging from somewhere soon as he'll not have the balls to face the public and the prosecution.

Good old British coppers eh.
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what a vile take.

the police woman is not in tears because of the 'police brutality'.

as for advocating the officer kills himself, as someone who managed an officer who took his own life, you are a ****.
 
Bigga said:
Thanks for the reply.

Can I just say "your place of work" has to be tailored for possibilities.

One doesn't need armed police at a GPs, a dentist or childcare. Assaults happen in these places and that's where you can credibly say "you cannot justify being assaulted at your place of work-it is not merely an expected consequence" and I would completely agree with you.

They are armed in a place they could encounter a terrorist, so that counters the point you make.

I worked in night clubs and I had to be ready to except violent episodes.

I would say these officers were too relaxed about incidents never happening, so when it did happen they lost control.

Not sure how they would have countered the malaise though, unless regularly switching the teams out so they would be more alert on any given day.
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You’d have to find a dentist first. And no ****’s getting past the receptionist at the GP.
 
SebastianBlue said:
Again, you can understand why he did it from a human perspective. But it was still wrong and so he’ll face the consequences just like any of us would if we had done without being a police officer.
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He didn't deserve to be knocked out himself if the other reports are true.
He could argue he was concussed and dazed when he come round and acted on instinct to subdue the man.
I would say he just lost his head though. But a thorough investigation will sort this out later.

I still don't get why this is any other asian/muslim man's business.
This wasn't a police attack targeted at asians/muslims. It just happened to involve some.
 
Mon Autre said:
I just don't think breaking someone's nose warrants a life threatening beating.

Also think there are a lot of ways a nose can get broken. If someone swings a punch unprovoked in someone's face then that's extremely scummy behaviour. If the police officer has had her nose broken whilst getting in between two other people fighting (which is entirely possible) then that changes things.

All we know for sure is that it's the police themselves who have the access to the most footage that can be used to get the truth out there. The longer they leave that, the worst they'll start to look.
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As Ricky Hatton used to say “It’s not a tickling contest.” If you break a police officer’s nose then don’t expect to be given ten minutes on the naughty step.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
The outcome will be defined by what the police say in their interviews. The line about potentially losing their firearms in the GMP quote seems important too.

The optics aren’t great for the police though.

Some will say it’s justified and some won’t. Without full context we can’t fully know either way.
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Kicking someone, prone on the floor, in the head can never be justified in any way. And then to stamp on him is unbelievable regardless of what went on before it.

Be lucky if he doesn’t lose his job and end up inside himself.
 
inchy14 said:
Kicking someone, prone on the floor, in the head can never be justified in any way. And then to stamp on him is unbelievable regardless of what went on before it.

Be lucky if he doesn’t lose his job and end up inside himself.
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I’ll happily start a go fund me for him if that’s the outcome.
 
M16 citeh said:
Why is it unfortunate that marginalized groups have a moment that can bring their issues to the forefront? Do you think civil rights reforms in America are unfortunate too?

And there has been several 'moments' like this in the past. Steven Laurence and mark duggan come instantly to mind but there has been many others.
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Broke my heart when Duggan died.
 
fulabeer said:
He didn't deserve to be knocked out himself if the other reports are true.
He could argue he was concussed and dazed when he come round and acted on instinct to subdue the man.
I would say he just lost his head though. But a thorough investigation will sort this out later.

I still don't get why this is any other asian/muslim man's business.
This wasn't a police attack targeted at asians/muslims. It just happened to involve some.
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I agree that he very likely was not thinking clearly because of the blows he received. And I am sure that will be taken in to consideration.

Again, he could have done something any of us would have done under similar extreme distress and it still be wrong to do.

Both things can be true at the same time, just like if a person was running away after raping a loved one and we shot them dead, most people would understand why we did it but we would still have to face the consequences of killing the person. And rightly so, as vigilante justice leads to absolute chaos, usually involving a lot of disproportionate or horrific “punishment”, often against innocent people (because all is needed is accusation or association, not verifiable proof).
 
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