I think you could easily argue that in his mind he had to exert such force on the first male to ensure he was not going to be a further threat in order to move to the first male.An angle I and probably most wouldn't have considered. There is a lot to it and all happens so fast. It is certainly not as simple as a basic loss of control or temper.
Is there? I don't know it would seem madness that you are expected to stand there and just get punched. I watched a documentary a few years back called one punch killers and what you state certainly wasn't the case.I'm not sure that's true. Doesn't sound like it is, and I'm pretty sure there are numerous cases of people getting done for assault and manslaughter in such circumstances.
Either way, not particularly relevant here. Other than, you are right it will hinge on whether the situation was under control and whether he was still a threat. From what I have seen, I don't think it was, and I think he was still a threat, even some time after the kick.
How would you assess if someone was cut out for such a situation prior to giving them the position?
I see the family have got rid of TikTok man and employed someone else now. And this one says the family are ‘concerned for the hurt officers.’
You would like to think so but wasn’t there a bad cop who was a Royal protection officer?His police record will be faultless -he wouldn’t be on firearms otherwise
Just watched the news. It seems this group had been causing trouble in at least two other places before this. The copper go a beating as his two females colleagues go a beating as well. The copper go away from his attacker and tasered him. Than tackles the one who attacked his two female colleagues. The copper deserves a medal.
I have a sneaking suspicion TikTok Lawyer wasn't getting involved because of a desire for justice.I see the family have got rid of TikTok man and employed someone else now. And this one says the family are ‘concerned for the hurt officers.’
True-but let’s not forget it’s a rarity, despite how it’s spunYou would like to think so but wasn’t there a bad cop who was a Royal protection officer?
I think they were all incredibly brave-they never backed off.I thought the blonde female cop was really good and it probably makes me slightly sexist in a way as I was impressed because she was a woman and bravery
As the lad decked the redhead she still lunged toward him on instinct and then covered up in a shell to protect herself, as soon as he left her to jump on the male cops back she was straight out with the taser and took him down
Brave young lady
I think they were all incredibly brave-they never backed off.
Yes, I’ve thought all along that had it kicked him and then jumped on him to cuff him it ‘looks’ much better-because he leaves him-now he could argue that he had to subdue him sufficiently before attending to the second male (who had already punched him numerous times) and left the first male to be cuffed by the blonde female-which happened.
For sure and I’m not saying this copper doesn’t have an exemplary record, just occasionally, the net is bypassedTrue-but let’s not forget it’s a rarity, despite how it’s spun
No, you are correct. It’s incredibly complex, not least because we are trying to get into the officer’s head.Just watching some of the video back again...
The ''stamp'' suspect is left completely unattended for at least a few seconds (I counted roughly 10) whilst the officer goes to deal with the ''sitting suspect''.
It's only once the ''sitting'' suspect is then taken to the floor and apprehended that the ''stamp'' suspect is then also apprehended by one of his colleagues (looks to be the blonde female, as you mentioned)
Obviously the officer could be thinking he's in a 2 vs 1 situation here due to the awful violence against his colleagues, and decides that as he's done a bit of damage to ''stamp'' suspect he can now leave him and deal with ''sitting'' suspect, but part of me does wonder that if you felt your weapons were at risk of being used against you, you would deal with ''stamp'' suspect in full (IE cuff him so he can't do anything) where you can also keep full view on the ''sitting'' suspect as you do it.
Probably just looking into it all in far too curious a manner, though I guess I'm second guessing how it might be viewed by courts and lawyers etc
According to some people, "ACAB".True-but let’s not forget it’s a rarity, despite how it’s spun
PmslIf anyone thinks that because this copper kicked the lad while dazed and after being beaten up he isn’t fit to perform his job they’re just clueless idiots
easy from your armchair
Indeed….According to some people, "ACAB".
And after seeing the second video knew they were fucked and would get no cash so has done one.I have a sneaking suspicion TikTok Lawyer wasn't getting involved because of a desire for justice.
Better call SaulAnd after seeing the second video knew they were fucked and would get no cash so has done one.
Credit to them for that; they've done the right thing. The bloke was a shit stirrer, and it's laughable that he's a lawyer. I also think they realise that the release of the second video has significantly damaged their case.I see the family have got rid of TikTok man and employed someone else now. And this one says the family are ‘concerned for the hurt officers.’