Alvarez replacement thread

richards30 said:
Hence we need another forward mate? Just not worth risking it is it and Erling will need resting to hopefully have him fir for the big games.
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The problem, however, is that no forward worth his salt is going to come to start 10 games and otherwise be a substitute. They’re just never going to build their confidence and gain the momentum needed to perform.
If we don’t replace Alvarez, which the sands in the timer suggest may be the case, I’d prefer us to sign yet another attacking midfielder and start playing the false nine system as soon as Haaland is substituted. I know that is the area where we already appear overstocked, but it’s a long campaign and the effects of the summer may not be felt until after Christmas.
 
Gabriel said:
The problem, however, is that no forward worth his salt is going to come to start 10 games and otherwise be a substitute. They’re just never going to build their confidence and gain the momentum needed to perform.
If we don’t replace Alvarez, which the sands in the timer suggest may be the case, I’d prefer us to sign yet another attacking midfielder and start playing the false nine system as soon as Haaland is substituted. I know that is the area where we already appear overstocked, but it’s a long campaign and the effects of the summer may not be felt until after Christmas.
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Eze?
 
richards30 said:
Eze?
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Possibly, but had we been going for him, I think we’d have moved by now, and I see him as staying around the M25.

With Gundogan back we might fancy someone a little younger and cheaper that we could develop this season with minimal expectation or risk (Sudakov?). With the window set to close, however, any further incoming is looking less likely.
 
Gabriel said:
Possibly, but had we been going for him, I think we’d have moved by now, and I see him as staying around the M25.

With Gundogan back we might fancy someone a little younger and cheaper that we could develop this season with minimal expectation or risk (Sudakov?). With the window set to close, however, any further incoming is looking less likely.
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Hope not mate, just because we can play false nine it doesnt mean we should?
 
The drop off from Erling to any top striker is big.The drop off from Erling to some of names mentioned is massive.We are well stocked on attacking mids and wingers and other play decent players available of this ilk.So we just false number as plan B unless last minute someone wants to offload a top class striker(willing to play second fiddle)at a cut price
 
richards30 said:
Hope not mate, just because we can play false nine it doesnt mean we should?
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True, but if the window closes without Alvarez being replaced, then we need to be pragmatic and have the players that can adapt to that formation. For example, one might argue that the need for Doku/Savinho to play in harness is reduced, as the game becomes even more reliant on maintaining possession. One way or t’other, we’ll know soon enough.
 
Gabriel said:
True, but if the window closes without Alvarez being replaced, then we need to be pragmatic and have the players that can adapt to that formation. For example, one might argue that the need for Doku/Savinho to play in harness is reduced, as the game becomes even more reliant on maintaining possession. One way or t’other, we’ll know soon enough.
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Do wonder if Haaland is misfiring and hooked on 80minutes (ish) the F9 system has a sense of tempo and urgency needed to work in the last 10 when chasing a game over closing out a game.

I'd prefer a striker tbh. System should be built to service the 9 with as much xG as possible.
 
FMwkdsoul said:
Do wonder if Haaland is misfiring and hooked on 80minutes (ish) the F9 system has a sense of tempo and urgency needed to work in the last 10 when chasing a game over closing out a game.

I'd prefer a striker tbh. System should be built to service the 9 with as much xG as possible.
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If we're chasing a game, Erling is not getting hooked, misfiring or otherwise
 
FMwkdsoul said:
Do wonder if Haaland is misfiring and hooked on 80minutes (ish) the F9 system has a sense of tempo and urgency needed to work in the last 10 when chasing a game over closing out a game.

I'd prefer a striker tbh. System should be built to service the 9 with as much xG as possible.
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Problem is that the system could not satisfy an £81 million striker, so it’s going to be terribly difficult satisfying anyone else unless they are younger, but better than Delap, or older and looking for one last shot at glory.

Saturday was a good example of the problems we could face this season. The game should have been dead in the 28th minute when Lewis hit the bar. With Guardiola’s three-goal cushion secured, Haaland and de Bruyne could have had the second-half off. Instead, they both played the full 90 and the two substitutes got minimal game time. Haaland would have been upset at being substituted while on a hat-trick, of course, but we can’t pander to that when he’s now the sole striker (especially with Bobb out) and needed for the long haul. Even if we don’t sign a replacement for Alvarez, such tough decisions will have to be made.
 
Gabriel said:
Problem is that the system could not satisfy an £81 million striker, so it’s going to be terribly difficult satisfying anyone else unless they are younger, but better than Delap, or older and looking for one last shot at glory.

Saturday was a good example of the problems we could face this season. The game should have been dead in the 28th minute when Lewis hit the bar. With Guardiola’s three-goal cushion secured, Haaland and de Bruyne could have had the second-half off. Instead, they both played the full 90 and the two substitutes got minimal game time. Haaland would have been upset at being substituted while on a hat-trick, of course, but we can’t pander to that when he’s now the sole striker (especially with Bobb out) and needed for the long haul. Even if we don’t sign a replacement for Alvarez, such tough decisions will have to be made.
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tend to agree, Saturday team was really reserved when the 3rd went it. lots of 'on' passes or runs just weren't being made or taken. Hopefully games are dead and buried early doors once fitness and a looser leash comes into play and my personal want of a striker is obsolete.

I like the idea of the pace/movement Kyogo has on paper if things are going sideways, just looks a very smart player in the box but links seem kinda dead. Just preference really, much prefer a 9. False 9 was pretty but very frustrating at time when the ball was out wide.
 
FMwkdsoul said:
tend to agree, Saturday team was really reserved when the 3rd went it. lots of 'on' passes or runs just weren't being made or taken. Hopefully games are dead and buried early doors once fitness and a looser leash comes into play and my personal want of a striker is obsolete.

I like the idea of the pace/movement Kyogo has on paper if things are going sideways, just looks a very smart player in the box but links seem kinda dead. Just preference really, much prefer a 9. False 9 was pretty but very frustrating at time when the ball was out wide.
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Going to be even more frustrating if we have natural wingers with no centre forward if Erling isn’t playing. We definitely could do with a striker, if Erling isn’t playing we have to change our entire system.
 
FMwkdsoul said:
tend to agree, Saturday team was really reserved when the 3rd went it. lots of 'on' passes or runs just weren't being made or taken. Hopefully games are dead and buried early doors once fitness and a looser leash comes into play and my personal want of a striker is obsolete.

I like the idea of the pace/movement Kyogo has on paper if things are going sideways, just looks a very smart player in the box but links seem kinda dead. Just preference really, much prefer a 9. False 9 was pretty but very frustrating at time when the ball was out wide.
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Saturday’s second-half was lacklustre and akin to a pre-season game, which for many it was, yet that inability to get the three-goal cushion last year saw too many players on the park for too long, and, ultimately, come the business end we were not as sharp.

The other problem with the false 9 is that it’s both mentally and physically draining for the player on ‘point’, and if it’s de Bruyne, then he is not getting any younger.

It’s over a fortnight since Alvarez left, and his departure couldn’t have come as a complete surprise to the management, so the lack of a replacement suggests, to me, that they’re happy to go as is.
 
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