An End to Terrace/Armchair Managers vs Mancini...

[mancunial]

And the problem being that Mancini didn't play '3 holding midfielders'. He played one; Yaya. A centre forward as in Edin Dzeko? No crossers of the ball as in Kolarov and the 'consistent' Adam Johnson?? Do you mean the injury prone 'tear-them-apart' Bellamy who's scored about 5 goals, this season, in a lower division??


You should read/ have a point before having a pop.

Bellamy was our best player behind Tevez last year and would have given us some much needed pace and width this year.

Mancini allowed personal differences to get in the way and that is bad management.

spot on bellamy,s link up with tev was our best option last season, to break that up was criminal, for the first time i have started to have doubts after last night perhaps i am too patient, liverpool last night were there for the taking the players we had out there should still have been able to overcome, but hands up liverpool were up for it even with a weakened side?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

But... But de Jong slows the game down!! Zabs is nowhere near match fit(as you should know with him being at his father's bedside for quite a while!). Mancini chose a 'little and large' forward line, which would have been correct. I think he gambled on Tévez coming through the game unscathed, him being injured at Chelski 2 weeks ago.

In any case, he would ended up with big and small as a forward line.

So, where's your logic?

What are you talking about? PMSL

 

[badvoc]

Can we agree that you don't know what you're talking about, finally??

For absolute weeks now, I have read/ heard you guys bleat on about the team, be it personnel or system. Far too many of you have lamented our manager's approach to the game and the media have simply picked up on the negativity and regurgitated it as gospel for the majority of City fans.

Lots of you have stated how 'negative' Mancini has been, so last night I witnessed a far more attacking unit than I have seen all season. On paper, for sheer attack, the personnel was right. In fact, I remember some clever clogs on this very site wishing we would put out such an attack minded team, as they didn't want to win '1-0' every game. Happy now?

I didn't like Yaya in DM mode, but many of you thought he'd be better there. I've never thought Milner and Barry are suited, but many of you would have preferred those two over YT. I never like NdJ out of the team, but lots of you think he 'slows us down'. I don't think Boyata is ready, but many feel he's better than Zabs(I know Zabs is short of match practice). I think it was right that Tévez and Dzeko played, however and that was only part of the team that had potential.

Anyway, as we saw, Yaya couldn't drive the team on, nor really control the mid flow as he was too deep. Milner, although industrious, went walkies all over. And Barry...? Well, the less said, the better.

The anti-Mancini brigade got their team and it was a disaster, so I suggest you let the man do his job, in his way as he sees fit. It's worked so far, boring as you may think, as it reflects RM's tactical mind. Last night's team was as far away from RM as I've ever seen.

I doubt you will see a team, like that, again this season or next.

I'll stand up and reply to this as one of those you are referring to: I pay a lot of money to watch MY Club (52yrs) and I have a right to say how I feel about how its being run.
The Team dont play as a 'Team' - they clearly dont like the manager and how he asks them to play. Maybe they dont understand it - his tactics certainly baffle me.
The Manager has constantly played x3 holding midfield players (not even Stoke do that!).
He buys a centre forward but has not made provision for this by having anyone who can cross a ball - then admits it.
He gets rid of Bellamy whilst bringing in Balotelli (need I say more?).

Oh hell - the list goes on and on and on................The problem last night summed up the entire Season. One winger to supply TWO centre forwards. No link between midfield and attack. Gareth Barry. No team ethic. Sideways football. Players looking bewildered, clueless and ruderless. Having some ability but unable to use it.

The truth hurts pal, maybe you dont like it but there it is and I for one dont want more of it next Season and I wont stop asking questions about how MY Club is being run....................

Such a great post mate, I could not agree with you more.

I feel sorry for Dzeko, he just gets no service and he knows life will be difficult for him every time he plays.

Mancini has badly managed this team, at the start of the season we had about 7 first team strikers, now how many?

Dzeko - gets no service
Ballotelli - Probably mentally unsound and I sincerely hope he never pulls on a city shirt again.
Tevez - injured

Bellamy - one of our outstanding performers of last season to League 1 on loan?
Adebayor - again loaned out, like him of not he gets goals and was never given a chance by Mancini.
Caicedo & Santa Cruz - same, although I never rated Santa Cruz I had hoped Caicedo would make a name for himself.

 

[Bigga]

But... But de Jong slows the game down!! Zabs is nowhere near match fit(as you should know with him being at his father's bedside for quite a while!). Mancini chose a 'little and large' forward line, which would have been correct. I think he gambled on Tévez coming through the game unscathed, him being injured at Chelski 2 weeks ago.

In any case, he would ended up with big and small as a forward line.

So, where's your logic?

What are you talking about? PMSL

You can't see?? Sure you can, you just feel foolish.

Like 'dennishasdoneit' correctly says, this team was very much a response to the 'entertainment' brigade that dogged RM all season. Drop this player, put that one in, make the team attack minded. How unbalanced it was. Discipline out of the window, selling colleagues short with passes, far too high a line because of the forward thing approach.

Apparently, you're a 'thinker', but I'm desperately disappointed with the evidence I have in front of me...

 

[Quinny851]

My "thinking" on the game being that Silva, Balo and De Jong should have started, you mean?

You drop "small" players against "tall" centre halves in schools football, not the premier league.

Same team as Sunderland with Zabalata at left back would have done for me.

-- Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:15 am --



It's called "Forzology".

The logic being, Saint Bob is always right, even when he's wrong.

But... But de Jong slows the game down!! Zabs is nowhere near match fit(as you should know with him being at his father's bedside for quite a while!). Mancini chose a 'little and large' forward line, which would have been correct. I think he gambled on Tévez coming through the game unscathed, him being injured at Chelski 2 weeks ago.

In any case, he would ended up with big and small as a forward line.

So, where's your logic?

De Jong is pivotal to our team and how it works. He breaks up possession and then passes to a player whether thats sideways, backwards or up in the fucking air off the stadium roof. He's not in there to create goals, he's in there for support, for his hard work and his perfect ability to destabilise an opposition attack.

The little and large striker partnership you talk of is utter shite. The large striker needs the ability to hold the ball up, have good control, be good in the air. Dzeko has none of these qualities. Tevez isn't like an normal striker, he comes deep to retrieve the ball, plays neat passes into feet and works a position for an opening.

Zabaleta isn't match fit you're probably right but at least he'd have more pace an passion than fucking Kolorov. Once again Mancini's arrogance thinking that we're better than what we are has cost us 3 crucial points.

When we get beat on Saturday I hope he sits there after and thinks about last nights team selection and wonders if it was worth it? Wanker

 

[Didsbury Dave]

What are you talking about? PMSL

You can't see?? Sure you can, you just feel foolish.

Like 'dennishasdoneit' correctly says, this team was very much a response to the 'entertainment' brigade that dogged RM all season. Drop this player, put that one in, make the team attack minded. How unbalanced it was. Discipline out of the window, selling colleagues short with passes, far too high a line because of the forward thing approach.

Apparently, you're a 'thinker', but I'm desperately disappointed with the evidence I have in front of me...

I feel very foolish for wanting De Jong and Silva in my team instead of Barry and Milner.

Sorry guys. Silly me.

 

[Bigga]

But... But de Jong slows the game down!! Zabs is nowhere near match fit(as you should know with him being at his father's bedside for quite a while!). Mancini chose a 'little and large' forward line, which would have been correct. I think he gambled on Tévez coming through the game unscathed, him being injured at Chelski 2 weeks ago.

In any case, he would ended up with big and small as a forward line.

So, where's your logic?

De Jong is pivotal to our team and how it works. He breaks up possession and then passes to a player whether thats sideways, backwards or up in the fucking air off the stadium roof. He's not in there to create goals, he's in there for support, for his hard work and his perfect ability to destabilise an opposition attack.

The little and large striker partnership you talk of is utter shite. The large striker needs the ability to hold the ball up, have good control, be good in the air. Dzeko has none of these qualities. Tevez isn't like an normal striker, he comes deep to retrieve the ball, plays neat passes into feet and works a position for an opening.

Zabaleta isn't match fit you're probably right but at least he'd have more pace an passion than fucking Kolorov. Once again Mancini's arrogance thinking that we're better than what we are has cost us 3 crucial points.

When we get beat on Saturday I hope he sits there after and thinks about last nights team selection and wonders if it was worth it? Wanker

My comment on de Jong was sarcasm. It was a response to those that think he brings nothing to the team, but 'slows it down'. Edin never really got the ball into him where he could hold it up, so it's unfair as a comment.

Arrogance is playing a half fit Zabs, who may have got himself sent off for tired challenges. Worth it? No.

He tried an attacking team and yet nobody comments on this factor. Why? Because no matter what he does, he'll be criticised. Be tactical and get critiqued. Be attacking and be critiqued.

It's a no win for him.

 

[Joycee Banercheck]

Who has ever said it would be best to start a game without NDJ and Silva? Nobody. Bigga, where have you got this idea from? I've ssen a lot of calling for Silva in the AM role and NDJ to stay where he is, but never calls for what you are saying you've seen.

As soon as the team news was heard I went from being confident to expecting a point at the most. A shambles of a team selection.

 

[forevermancity]

Can we agree that you don't know what you're talking about, finally??

For absolute weeks now, I have read/ heard you guys bleat on about the team, be it personnel or system. Far too many of you have lamented our manager's approach to the game and the media have simply picked up on the negativity and regurgitated it as gospel for the majority of City fans.

Lots of you have stated how 'negative' Mancini has been, so last night I witnessed a far more attacking unit than I have seen all season. On paper, for sheer attack, the personnel was right. In fact, I remember some clever clogs on this very site wishing we would put out such an attack minded team, as they didn't want to win '1-0' every game. Happy now?

I didn't like Yaya in DM mode, but many of you thought he'd be better there. I've never thought Milner and Barry are suited, but many of you would have preferred those two over YT. I never like NdJ out of the team, but lots of you think he 'slows us down'. I don't think Boyata is ready, but many feel he's better than Zabs(I know Zabs is short of match practice). I think it was right that Tévez and Dzeko played, however and that was only part of the team that had potential.

Anyway, as we saw, Yaya couldn't drive the team on, nor really control the mid flow as he was too deep. Milner, although industrious, went walkies all over. And Barry...? Well, the less said, the better.

The anti-Mancini brigade got their team and it was a disaster, so I suggest you let the man do his job, in his way as he sees fit. It's worked so far, boring as you may think, as it reflects RM's tactical mind. Last night's team was as far away from RM as I've ever seen.

I doubt you will see a team, like that, again this season or next.

yep, last night was down to the bluemoon doom mongerers. not mancini.

clueless bigga, absolutley clueless.

 

[ST Coleridge]

He tried an attacking team and yet nobody comments on this factor. Why? Because no matter what he does, he'll be criticised. Be tactical and get critiqued. Be attacking and be critiqued.

It's a no win for him.

I'm afraid that this is the sense I get from some, too.

And let's evaluate a poor performance, rather than labelling our manager a 'wanker', 'prick', etc.