Another new Brexit thread

Status
Not open for further replies.
I thought it time to put down my thoughts about this whole Brexit thing.

I was and still am a remainer. My reasons are very clear, we were one of the top economies in the world and this was due, almost entirely, because we are in the EU. In my view, to put this in jeopardy would be a supreme act of folly. There will be serious economic consequences to leaving. This is not just my view but the view of the ‘Government’ as well; hence the reason to put by £bns to ‘soften’ the blow, money which could have been spent elsewhere for the benefit of the whole country.

We have said many, many times on this forum about the lies and half truth reporting in national newspapers and it is not a surprise that after many, many years of rubbish some people believe the anti EU rhetoric pumped out by owners and politicians who have a vested interest in leaving the EU - in fact some people (allegedly Rees-Mogg and others) will make money out of it. Add to this the exercise of rubbishing all words of warning about the consequences as ‘scaremongering’ by said newspapers and politicians and them saying ‘it will be easy’ and you don’t have to be a genius to predict the likely outcome.

I believe that leaving the EU never was and never will be easy. We have lived to long in the EU and have our politics and economy so tightly entwined to be able to ‘just leave’. I said at the time that to allow people a free vote on such a complex arrangement as the EU was not the way forward. It was done to placate the right wing of the Tory party. There are too many people in this country who do not care what the consequences of leaving will be. Tell someone on a zero hours, minimum wage contract who relies on a food bank to live that they will be worse off with a no-deal or any Brexit is laughable. One of the planks of leave was immigration; immigration never has been a problem for this country. ‘They’ do not take ‘our’ jobs nor do they jump the queue in housing or hospitals. The problems in our housing and hospitals, amongst others, has been the lack of serious investment whilst the Tories have run down our services. Don’t blame immigration.

Don’t get me wrong, I am not a socialist just someone who cares about the people of this country and the way the Tories have run down our services has been a disgrace and has been the cause of some of the dissent.

Rant over. Won’t change anything but I feel better for it. :)
 
Was listening to the radio this morning and an interesting possibility was raised that I had not heard of before.
After a no deal we could come to a 'stand-still agreement' with the E.U for 12 months.
Basically we carry on as normal with the E.U with our current relationship on temporary life support for 12 months, however we are out and remain is no longer a possibility (bar rejoining)
This then gives the government 12 months to negotiate some form of a deal with the E.U

You mean on top of the three and half years it’s taken so far?
 
The notion that tbis isn't going to dominate our politics, irrespective, is absolutely fucking comical. He seems to be suggesting that we'll leave and that will be that. Fucking clown.

I don't think there are too many people out there who think once we're out then that's that and we return to normality instantly. You only have to look at the past 3 and a bit years to see that it's been a long drawn out process and we're not even out yet, and as such many more people will be aware of the complexities and timescales involved in leaving, and Farage himself will be aware of that. Not to give him any credit, but people all over the country are sick of hearing about it, and while it obviously doesn't go away the minute we leave, people are fed up of it dominating the headlines regardless of which way they voted. I know Remainers (and pretty staunch ones at that), who want this resolved one way or another - be it in, out, or shake it all about - so we can move onto the next step.
 
Shameful why ? it happens every year.....don't be fooled by the dog whistling of the snowflake left...………..they've had 3 and a half years to sort this out

I am not a ‘snowflake’. It’s true that it happens every year but not for so long and not during, what could possibly be, the most important time in this or any other Parliament. Yes it has taken this long to get this far but to close Parliament so that there can be no scrutiny of what the Tories will do is a no no.
 
Shameful why ? it happens every year.....don't be fooled by the dog whistling of the snowflake left...………..they've had 3 and a half years to sort this out

Oh give over for fucks sake.

Do you honestly think that any of us are fucking stupid enough to swallow that fascist ****, Mogg excuse ?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top
  AdBlock Detected
Bluemoon relies on advertising to pay our hosting fees. Please support the site by disabling your ad blocking software to help keep the forum sustainable. Thanks.