Are You Officially Priced Out Yet, Or Almost?

[Questy]

Do most agree that season cards are priced fairly ! I'm sure given the chance the club would sell 100% season cards but they are not allowed too, they are increasing the capacity with the vast majority being taken up by new season card holders ( hopefully myself included ) , hopefully when it is all finished we will see a stop on increases on single match tickets.

 

[moomba]

And the club (and football in general) will argue that no one is forcing you or anyone else to pay the ticket prices.

And I will argue that if the club is so flippant as to ignore the fact that traditional, long term supporters are choosing not to pay those prices then they deserve criticism rather than pushing the blame onto some else.

Like i said its not just MCFC charging these prices its everywhere else

Do you often get upset when you walk into Sainsburys, and their not offering cheap bread and milk when Morrisons, Tesco and ASDA are all charging more?

If I'm not getting value for money at a supermarket I'll take my business elsewhere. Can't really do that at a football club. And I would also say that while clubs talk about the role supporters can play inspiring the team, they would be silly to take on the "if you don't like it, tough shit" attitude that you seem to have.

 

[franksinatra]

And the club (and football in general) will argue that no one is forcing you or anyone else to pay the ticket prices.

And I will argue that if the club is so flippant as to ignore the fact that traditional, long term supporters are choosing not to pay those prices then they deserve criticism rather than pushing the blame onto some else.

Like i said its not just MCFC charging these prices its everywhere else

Do you often get upset when you walk into Sainsburys, and their not offering cheap bread and milk when Morrisons, Tesco and ASDA are all charging more?

I think as a football fan you should realise their is a bit of a difference between supporting a football team and choosing where to shop for your groceries.

In crude terms it could be called brand loyalty or as an economic term it could be argued support for a football team has an inelastic demand. For many it is not like you can just choose to watch another club, like you would choose to shop elsewhere if you were not happy with the prices.

Correctly it is a football problem however Manchester City have a responsibility in all this, particularly in relation to wage inflation. For example the cost of Frank Lampards wages (if as reported we are paying them) could alone knock a couple of pounds of the cost of a match ticket. Sadly so much money is now going out of the game and lining the pockets of greedy footballers

 

[chris85mcfc]

And I will argue that if the club is so flippant as to ignore the fact that traditional, long term supporters are choosing not to pay those prices then they deserve criticism rather than pushing the blame onto some else.

Like i said its not just MCFC charging these prices its everywhere else

Do you often get upset when you walk into Sainsburys, and their not offering cheap bread and milk when Morrisons, Tesco and ASDA are all charging more?

If I'm not getting value for money at a supermarket I'll take my business elsewhere. Can't really do that at a football club. And I would also say that while clubs talk about the role supporters can play inspiring the team, they would be silly to take on the "if you don't like it, tough shit" attitude that you seem to have.

But their both businesses, who offer their tickets at prices that are being offered elsewhere, they would be daft not to do that.

Unfortunately the days of clubs doing their fans 'favours' have long gone because despite all the whinging on here those people are STILL paying the prices being offered.

Like I said in another post, until grounds are half empty due to pricing, clubs will keep charging the prices they are charging.

I don't agree with the price of a ticket being £57, and ive said previously that if I didn't have a season ticket id probably not bother paying £57 for a single game, but the reason I think our club in particular are charging £57 for one game is because they are trying to encourage people to get their name on the waiting list for a season ticket.

If we are still having this conversation in 2 or 3 years time about how a single ticket price is now say £67 then ill say we have hit rock bottom, but personally I believe once we have the expansion their will be a price freeze, I don't expect the prices to come down from £57 tho unless more people boycott matches.

 

[DarloBlue]

You mean those sponsorship deals that all the other top clubs have that don't subsidise their clubs ticket prices?

These ticket prices aren't the fault of MCFC, its the fault of football in general. Our season ticket prices aren't much different to the rest of the PL, at least we don't pay to watch shite every week. That doesn't make it acceptable but were in the same boat as fans all over the country so rather than having a go at MCFC, have a go at Sky, the PL, the FA etc instead

Yes them ones, I'm not just blaming City but why do they have to follow the trend?
It's just greed, which has been proved many times on here (I can't be arsed digging out the posts) that ticket income is small beer in the grand scheme of things, If I was an opposition fan coming to the City this season I would give it a major swerve

I agree it is small beans when commercial deals dwarf the money generated from ticket sales, but what some people are asking for is for MCFC to set a president and lower ticket prices compared to the rest of the league.

Like I said its not the fault of MCFC its football in general, if we keep selling out every week how can the owners know who is coming through the gates whether it be Dave Smith a local working class lad who has a low income or some 'tourist' who can comfortably afford the price?

Until attendances drop the club will do NOTHING about the ticket prices, supply and demand, if the demand is there why lower the price??

The owners have a pretty good idea who is coming through the turnstiles due to everyone being a registered customer. They will monitor the percentage of new vs repeat 'customers' each game.

This will highlight how many long standing fans are being lost.

 

[chris85mcfc]

Yes them ones, I'm not just blaming City but why do they have to follow the trend?
It's just greed, which has been proved many times on here (I can't be arsed digging out the posts) that ticket income is small beer in the grand scheme of things, If I was an opposition fan coming to the City this season I would give it a major swerve

I agree it is small beans when commercial deals dwarf the money generated from ticket sales, but what some people are asking for is for MCFC to set a president and lower ticket prices compared to the rest of the league.

Like I said its not the fault of MCFC its football in general, if we keep selling out every week how can the owners know who is coming through the gates whether it be Dave Smith a local working class lad who has a low income or some 'tourist' who can comfortably afford the price?

Until attendances drop the club will do NOTHING about the ticket prices, supply and demand, if the demand is there why lower the price??

The owners have a pretty good idea who is coming through the turnstiles due to everyone being a registered customer. They will monitor the percentage of new vs repeat 'customers' each game.

This will highlight how many long standing fans are being lost.

That's not my point mate, the point i was trying to make was that if the working class lad is still paying to go how can the club know that he can't really afford to be there, or that he thinks the prices are too high?

The only way they will take note is when the stadium is half empty, and the 85th minute onwards doesn't count :)

 

[DarloBlue]

It'll give them an idea though. They will get some kind of idea about you background by the money spent on tickets/merchandise.

When people who used to attend regularly stop going then it's likely due to being priced out.

It's not just working class fans that struggle to pay the prices these days though.

 

[CatMan]

Facts are that this Manchester City Football Club, of which we were all supporters and sustainers, has now become Manchester City Football Group, of which we are now just the current batch of customers.

Unlike when it was a club and its very existence depended on match going fans, it can now happily survive with empty stadia and is quite prepared to take that risk as it looks to restock its shop to suit a (as one arrogant poster put it) 'less poor' set of customers.

It might be time if you are like myself, still wanting to feel valued by the people you hand your money to, to perhaps move to lower league or non league football!

I see even today the major headline coming from the business is the release if a new range of luxury pies that they have decided are more financially suited to our taste buds than Hollands!

 

[MATCITY]

In my opinion what the club want is rid of the likes of me who spends no money at the club except for my season ticket maybe once or twice a season I'll buy a hot chocolate if I'm cold, and replace me with the type who will go to one or two games as a spectacle buy high priced tickets spend a wad of cash in the club shop spend a load of money at half time on pies, hot dogs and drinks, rinse and repeat week in week out

 

[chris85mcfc]

It'll give them an idea though. They will get some kind of idea about you background by the money spent on tickets/merchandise.

When people who used to attend regularly stop going then it's likely due to being priced out.

It's not just working class fans that struggle to pay the prices these days though.

No it won't give them any idea. A 'tourist' as some people have been describing them, is likely to be over in Manchester for a trip and want to see a game while their here, the chances are that at best they will make this trip once a season, AT BEST, some may never even return and most of them will probably buy their tickets off Viagogo anyway.

Plenty of people are making out as if all of a sudden that groups of middle/upper class people from the Cheshire countryside have decided to start following City all of a sudden.

United have their share of tourists, but they also have a fanbase all over the UK, and that fanbase is huge. Personally I don't think we will ever match their fanbase on a national basis, so anyway saying they will be replaced by someone with money coming out of their ears are way off the mark, the chances are they will be replaced with someone who is similar to themselves, on an average wage, but perhaps has a slightly different level of disposable income. Who knows but its getting boring reading about us being replaced by tourists.