Argentina national team with Falklands banner

[kinkysleftfoot]

32 years ago I was fighting in the Falklands, 32 years ago to the day this happened

These fuckers are stirring it all up again.

See, thats the "thing" with Argentina.

I wrestle with my conscience over this nation more than any other.

As a Blue, I love Aguero, Zabba, MDM, Tevez and my dislike for that nation over the last few years has become less.

However as an Englishman, Argentina as a nation provides all I need to dislike them - the Falklands war and on a much lesser scale, the Maradona 86 incident.

Kinkysleftfoot - respect to you, but how do you feel now about Argentina (if you don't mind me asking) and the fact that some of City's best player are Argentinian (not that its all about football)

Before this incident I didn't give a toss that they were Argentinian, but this incident has changed that. I fell this is very disrespectful to the nation that provides them with an income. I'm not sure if any of our players were in that picture but if they were I would demand a public apology or get rid

 

[kinkysleftfoot]

People on both sides lost their lives in that war. Banners like that are extremely offensive to their memories.

It's impossible to offend a memory.

Exactly. Total bollocks.

Ok maybe my use of English wasn't as good as it should be


It offends the relatives and colleagues of those who died, it offends those that came back with injuries that changed lives forever, it offends those that wake up from nightmares at this time every year.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

I honestly believe that Argentina should be expelled from the competition.

What a load of kneejerk hysterical claptrap.
I'm no fan of using sporting events to make political gestures, but expelling a country for a banner would be ridiculous.

 

[Skashion]

What a load of kneejerk hysterical claptrap.
I'm no fan of using sporting events to make political gestures, but expelling a country for a banner would be ridiculous.

Nah, I'm quite in favour. Any nation with a past of imperialist aggression should be expelled...

 

[NPBlue]

No doubt their president had a say in the matter. The players and people probably couldn't give a shite about the Falklands. Poor economical situation in Argentina right now, immediate resolution for their president is to bring up the Falklands.

I spent some time in Argentina a decade or so ago, and whenever the subject of the Malvinas came up, I never experienced any hostility. It was more like light hearted banter, a bit of a joke. I thought that, deep down, they would like the islands to be within their sovereignty, but they accepted they were British, so to speak, and that was that.

There is a respect for Britain in Argentina, which came as a surprise to me at the time. I didn't know much about their history when I went there, but you don't have to spend much time there to see very visible evidence of substantial British investment in the country years ago.

The Royal Navy sent a task force down there early in the 19th century, I think it was just after Spain had granted them independence, but the Royal Navy got well and truly battered in the River Plate, so we never got to 'own' the country, and we never tried again.

More than a few Argentines told me they wished they had been part of the British Empire. They thought, rightly or wrongly, the country would be a much fairer place with a better distribution of wealth and less corruption.

We'll never know, as we can't turn the clock back, but after having lived there for a while, there is no reason to believe they are natural enemies of ours.

The Malvinas will always be a thorn in their side, and politicians with votes to gain through public support will often use them as a way of achieving popularity, but it also has to be remembered that most Argentines regard their loss to the British forces in the early 80's as one of the best things that happened to their country, as it rid them of the hated military junta and replaced it with a democracy.

I'm not saying the place is a utopia, but when I was there, every week the mothers of the 'disappeared' gathered in the main square with photographs of their children that had been taken by the security forces and never seen or heard of again.

40,000 of them met their deaths that way.

As for the banner, it's noticeable that none of the City players are holding it.

Two countries won the Falklands conflict, and if you ever go to Argentina, you'll understand why.

 

[Skashion]

No doubt their president had a say in the matter. The players and people probably couldn't give a shite about the Falklands. Poor economical situation in Argentina right now, immediate resolution for their president is to bring up the Falklands.

I spent some time in Argentina a decade or so ago, and whenever the subject of the Malvinas came up, I never experienced any hostility. It was more like light hearted banter, a bit of a joke. I thought that, deep down, they would like the islands to be within their sovereignty, but they accepted they were British, so to speak, and that was that.

There is a respect for Britain in Argentina, which came as a surprise to me at the time. I didn't know much about their history when I went there, but you don't have to spend much time there to see very visible evidence of substantial British investment in the country years ago.

The Royal Navy sent a task force down there early in the 19th century, I think it was just after Spain had granted them independence, but the Royal Navy got well and truly battered in the River Plate, so we never got to 'own' the country, and we never tried again.

More than a few Argentines told me they wished they had been part of the British Empire. They thought, rightly or wrongly, the country would be a much fairer place with a better distribution of wealth and less corruption.

We'll never know, as we can't turn the clock back, but after having lived there for a while, there is no reason to believe they are natural enemies of ours.

The Malvinas will always be a thorn in their side, and politicians with votes to gain through public support will often use them as a way of achieving popularity, but it also has to be remembered that most Argentines regard their loss to the British forces in the early 80's as one of the best things that happened to their country, as it rid them of the hated military junta and replaced it with a democracy.

I'm not saying the place is a utopia, but when I was there, every week the mothers of the 'disappeared' gathered in the main square with photographs of their children that had been taken by the security forces and never seen or heard of again.

40,000 of them met their deaths that way.

As for the banner, it's noticeable that none of the City players are holding it.

Two countries won the Falklands conflict, and if you ever go to Argentina, you'll understand why.

Boo, hiss. You're supposed to hate Argentina and all Argentinians in this thread.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

There is a certain irony in that right wingers on both sides had a vested interest in fuelling this conflict for political gain at the time, and seemingly it's those very same right wingers who are the ones unable to forgive and forget and move on nowadays.
I'm sure Mrs Thatcher must have had mixed feelings regarding bringing about the demise of Galtieri's neo-fascist junta, even if it did win her an election.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

No doubt their president had a say in the matter. The players and people probably couldn't give a shite about the Falklands. Poor economical situation in Argentina right now, immediate resolution for their president is to bring up the Falklands.

I spent some time in Argentina a decade or so ago, and whenever the subject of the Malvinas came up, I never experienced any hostility. It was more like light hearted banter, a bit of a joke. I thought that, deep down, they would like the islands to be within their sovereignty, but they accepted they were British, so to speak, and that was that.

There is a respect for Britain in Argentina, which came as a surprise to me at the time. I didn't know much about their history when I went there, but you don't have to spend much time there to see very visible evidence of substantial British investment in the country years ago.

The Royal Navy sent a task force down there early in the 19th century, I think it was just after Spain had granted them independence, but the Royal Navy got well and truly battered in the River Plate, so we never got to 'own' the country, and we never tried again.

More than a few Argentines told me they wished they had been part of the British Empire. They thought, rightly or wrongly, the country would be a much fairer place with a better distribution of wealth and less corruption.

We'll never know, as we can't turn the clock back, but after having lived there for a while, there is no reason to believe they are natural enemies of ours.

The Malvinas will always be a thorn in their side, and politicians with votes to gain through public support will often use them as a way of achieving popularity, but it also has to be remembered that most Argentines regard their loss to the British forces in the early 80's as one of the best things that happened to their country, as it rid them of the hated military junta and replaced it with a democracy.

I'm not saying the place is a utopia, but when I was there, every week the mothers of the 'disappeared' gathered in the main square with photographs of their children that had been taken by the security forces and never seen or heard of again.

40,000 of them met their deaths that way.

As for the banner, it's noticeable that none of the City players are holding it.

Two countries won the Falklands conflict, and if you ever go to Argentina, you'll understand why.

Having been to Argentina I concur with this post.

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Its so silly, the falklands want to be a british territory we want them. They have been since 1833, nothing more to say.

No we don't.....we just want the oil reserves around the island......in all truth the Government couldn't give a flying f*ck about the Falklands.

 

[foxy]

No doubt their president had a say in the matter. The players and people probably couldn't give a shite about the Falklands. Poor economical situation in Argentina right now, immediate resolution for their president is to bring up the Falklands.

I spent some time in Argentina a decade or so ago, and whenever the subject of the Malvinas came up, I never experienced any hostility. It was more like light hearted banter, a bit of a joke. I thought that, deep down, they would like the islands to be within their sovereignty, but they accepted they were British, so to speak, and that was that.

There is a respect for Britain in Argentina, which came as a surprise to me at the time. I didn't know much about their history when I went there, but you don't have to spend much time there to see very visible evidence of substantial British investment in the country years ago.

The Royal Navy sent a task force down there early in the 19th century, I think it was just after Spain had granted them independence, but the Royal Navy got well and truly battered in the River Plate, so we never got to 'own' the country, and we never tried again.

More than a few Argentines told me they wished they had been part of the British Empire. They thought, rightly or wrongly, the country would be a much fairer place with a better distribution of wealth and less corruption.

We'll never know, as we can't turn the clock back, but after having lived there for a while, there is no reason to believe they are natural enemies of ours.

The Malvinas will always be a thorn in their side, and politicians with votes to gain through public support will often use them as a way of achieving popularity, but it also has to be remembered that most Argentines regard their loss to the British forces in the early 80's as one of the best things that happened to their country, as it rid them of the hated military junta and replaced it with a democracy.

I'm not saying the place is a utopia, but when I was there, every week the mothers of the 'disappeared' gathered in the main square with photographs of their children that had been taken by the security forces and never seen or heard of again.

40,000 of them met their deaths that way.

As for the banner, it's noticeable that none of the City players are holding it.

Two countries won the Falklands conflict, and if you ever go to Argentina, you'll understand why.

Their own government also abandoned their troops. The Royal Navy took their prisoners in, fed them and gave them shelter. A lot of anger towards the government of the time form the Argentine people. It's a shame they are governed by a complete dickhead. I hope to travel to Argentina one day, the place looks awesome and the people seem friendly.