jayblue
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Arsenal - Post match thread
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NQCitizen
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It's more about respecting the achievements of the team. Silva was there. How did people know they wouldn't be there? Did you all go to theirs after the game?Zabba and Vinny weren't there!!!!
Maybe you weren't either ???
And I definitely was there.
Dribble
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You're better than me mate. My brother was so pissed off with Manuel he decided to have a BBQ instead and gave his ticket to a mate. He called me late last night and said his mate's mate wanted to go too, so I surrendered my ticket, spent the day with family and watched the damp squib unfold on the telly.I have never left before the end of the last game lap of honour, all through shit years I stayed and applauded the players and manager. this was my protest against a man who has cheated our club.
he's lucky I went at all.
Fuckin glad I didn't go, I had an ultra high definition 4k view of Pellegrini's face when he came out to an empty stadium. At that moment, I think the reality of what we all have been feeling hit him....... That was until his interview when he claimed we deserved to win the game, we've been playing superb, exciting, attacking football blah, blah fuckin blah.
Just 90 minutes left to endure.
Looks like the overriding strategy was to appoint Guardiola long term and with his record that's understandable.No, by not appointing a fucking caretaker manager for 3 years. The poster I quoted said it all. We pressed the pause button 3 years ago and we're reaping the consequences for it now. Guardiola better be worth it cos we've wasted the best years of some top players waiting for him.
leighton
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It was coming out anyway. Speculation was rife so it needed clarifying
Maybe it did but maybe then was the best time to let MP go and not hope that he could somehow win back the dressing room. If we would of got some experience in for the final few months maybe we wouldnt be were we are. Idealy if Vieira was still at the club give him the 3 months in charge. Sure the team will be better in the long term hopefully. Pep hopefully will stay longer than his 3 years term as this is his project to get City to go on and win a champions league and title again. Wont all happen straight away but he will be given everything to get it.
Rammy Blue
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Yeah, I'm just so happy he's practically gone now.I love my club but the manager is not my club, he's not a fan, he never really made any effort to warm to the fans or relate to us. He can almost taste that 10 day holiday in the British Isles, it's 90 minutes away for the dour, unimaginative, boring Luddite
Onwards and upwards.
Dribble
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Perhaps we should all do it at an appointed time en masse, they can't ban us all can they? :-)Am I allowed to call him what I feel without getting banned today?
pride in battle
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Tha
Oh SWP keep sending that few grand home each month :)
thanks guys :)Weren't*
Oh SWP keep sending that few grand home each month :)
Many on here called it around Christmas time that we would struggle to make top 4 with the way we were playing. We were shouted down and called rags etc.
No I'm not happy and it amazes me that the happy clappers can be so deluded with trying to spin things into a positive.
The club have messed up big time with throwing everything into getting Pep and just thought top 4 was a given.
Not saying you're wrong, but it does sound like you're happy (and others) to be proved right
Healdplace
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Today was not the problem. They did not play great but they played with all the desire missing on Wednesday.
Got a 2-2 in Madrid and we would be one match from winning the CL and automatic qualification dumping United out.
The problem has been the painfully slow walk into this predicament that was really pretty damn obvious to anyone looking at things dispassionately rather than blindedby being convinced of their own infallibility as I think some in this club at the top have been.
That is what was written on those big wigs faces at the end. Realisation that they misjudged the last few months in a way they never ever expected.
Of course, it ain't over. But I do not expect United to miss the chance we have given them now. I said weeks ago (and repeated it in the run up to Southampton) that we had to go into the West Ham v United game 3 points clear or handing over the initiative so late would cost us.
It is what United and Liverpool did to us and we snatched their hand off. Same will happen here I fear.
Those expecting West Ham to desire Europa League should ask if they looked like that on Saturday. Or at the posts on here suggesting we should basically throw the Europa League to focus on the league.
So if you feel like that why expect that West Ham desire to get this prize will beat United's total gift of a pass into the Champions League when I am sure they had all written that off.
Had we ended today 3 points clear (as even a point at Southampton would have done - definitely achievable had we not basically dumped that game in the belief it was 'dispensible' because we would win the last two games or United would mess up). Well it would be in our own hands with just that one point and I think that would have changed things at Upton Park on Tuesday.
As it is chances are West Ham will play the occasion and to their fans and United will play the match. It could still work out for us. We could be lucky then as we were unlucky today as we deserved to win today.
But this weekend has been a massive swing IMO. United ground out a point they did not deserve. We tossed away two points we did through defensive errors.
That is very telling so near the finishing line.
To be honest this ending to the season might make the club as it will kill off the sentiment and arrogance that we are guaranteed anything. Not in the PL. Npbody is. You have to work for it. Or you get screwed.
As long as we still get Pep and he does not back out given the enormity of the task he probably never realised until now, do not lose key players (we must hope that Aguero will be happy to stay without CL) and we rid ourselves of the malaise where we feel we are so good that turning up is half the battle. In this league it never is.
We might well be better off being able to focus on winning the league in Pep's first season as we have shown this year focusing on two things at once is not a quality we appear to possess as yet.
Got a 2-2 in Madrid and we would be one match from winning the CL and automatic qualification dumping United out.
The problem has been the painfully slow walk into this predicament that was really pretty damn obvious to anyone looking at things dispassionately rather than blindedby being convinced of their own infallibility as I think some in this club at the top have been.
That is what was written on those big wigs faces at the end. Realisation that they misjudged the last few months in a way they never ever expected.
Of course, it ain't over. But I do not expect United to miss the chance we have given them now. I said weeks ago (and repeated it in the run up to Southampton) that we had to go into the West Ham v United game 3 points clear or handing over the initiative so late would cost us.
It is what United and Liverpool did to us and we snatched their hand off. Same will happen here I fear.
Those expecting West Ham to desire Europa League should ask if they looked like that on Saturday. Or at the posts on here suggesting we should basically throw the Europa League to focus on the league.
So if you feel like that why expect that West Ham desire to get this prize will beat United's total gift of a pass into the Champions League when I am sure they had all written that off.
Had we ended today 3 points clear (as even a point at Southampton would have done - definitely achievable had we not basically dumped that game in the belief it was 'dispensible' because we would win the last two games or United would mess up). Well it would be in our own hands with just that one point and I think that would have changed things at Upton Park on Tuesday.
As it is chances are West Ham will play the occasion and to their fans and United will play the match. It could still work out for us. We could be lucky then as we were unlucky today as we deserved to win today.
But this weekend has been a massive swing IMO. United ground out a point they did not deserve. We tossed away two points we did through defensive errors.
That is very telling so near the finishing line.
To be honest this ending to the season might make the club as it will kill off the sentiment and arrogance that we are guaranteed anything. Not in the PL. Npbody is. You have to work for it. Or you get screwed.
As long as we still get Pep and he does not back out given the enormity of the task he probably never realised until now, do not lose key players (we must hope that Aguero will be happy to stay without CL) and we rid ourselves of the malaise where we feel we are so good that turning up is half the battle. In this league it never is.
We might well be better off being able to focus on winning the league in Pep's first season as we have shown this year focusing on two things at once is not a quality we appear to possess as yet.
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malg
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Please, for the love of God, tell me why I should stay and applaud their 'effort'. It's their job, and a job that makes them millionaires. I pay my money to support them, if they want me to stay behind to applaud them then I expect to be paid. As for booing players, I've never understood it. Who was booed?Today I saw us boo our own player and three quarters of the stadium piss off before even giving a solitary clap to a bloke that won us a league title.
People who supposedly worshipped the likes of Zaba and Vinnie and Silva couldn't even be arsed to give them possibly a decent goodbye.
ono
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The full game summed up the season. Total brain farts cost us.
Mangala poor for both goals. Fernandinho poor for the second. Don't know what will happen with Dinho. On one hand, his energy and tenacity is impressive but he's also a total headless chicken and causes problems when he doesn't just hold his position. He has poor positioning and plays such a risky pressing game. It's cost us goals in some really big matches this season.
Yaya looks totally gone. He looks like he has dumbbells on his feet. Sterling is just god awful and offers absolutely nothing. Navas does some good things but it only ever leaves to frustration.
We just need so much doing to the squad.
I would literally only keep Hart, Kompany, De Bruyne, Nacho and Aguero, maybe Silva and maybe Dinho but he needs moving to a wider position. He's not good enough to be a central player in a pep team. And he isn't disciplined enough.
A lot to be done in the summer.
Mangala poor for both goals. Fernandinho poor for the second. Don't know what will happen with Dinho. On one hand, his energy and tenacity is impressive but he's also a total headless chicken and causes problems when he doesn't just hold his position. He has poor positioning and plays such a risky pressing game. It's cost us goals in some really big matches this season.
Yaya looks totally gone. He looks like he has dumbbells on his feet. Sterling is just god awful and offers absolutely nothing. Navas does some good things but it only ever leaves to frustration.
We just need so much doing to the squad.
I would literally only keep Hart, Kompany, De Bruyne, Nacho and Aguero, maybe Silva and maybe Dinho but he needs moving to a wider position. He's not good enough to be a central player in a pep team. And he isn't disciplined enough.
A lot to be done in the summer.
Neville Kneville
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I thought Fernando was superb until he ran himself into the ground,certainly a very useful player to have around.
Both Ferns were running the show but it's not possible to keep that up.
We were talking about it at half time. We have to be ready to beef up the midfield if we score, as we are potentially in danger.
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meeesh
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Well I bit the bullet,and stayed,polite applause is about the most I could muster,because I didn't want to look a spoilt twat,after enduring many many years of shite,and looking at it anyone over 35 should have done the same really.
mancitypj
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Oh behave. He spent a fortune and should have done better with the squad. He was unable to motivate the players and kept making bizarre substitutions. It was obvious that he was after the champions league cup and put all his eggs in one basket. I never took to the guy but I guess he is a nice man! Lot of good that's going to do us. Well rid in my opinion. I've never wanted a season to end as I have this one.Unbelievable how shocking the fans of this club have become. A couple of league titles and now we've got a bunch of spoit, self entitled brats! The man won a league title with us.
NQCitizen
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Bony before he even came on. Got booed for literally preparing to come on.Please, for the love of God, tell me why I should stay and applaud their 'effort'. It's their job, and a job that makes them millionaires. I pay my money to support them, if they want me to stay behind to applaud them then I expect to be paid. As for booing players, I've never understood it. Who was booed?
And yeah I think we should applaud a bloke who's won the league, 2 cups and taken us to the semis of the CL. Are we so entitled in under a decade of investment not to?
So the season went badly. It was shit.. We take our eye off the league. We sentimentally held on to way many players who are just done. We spent most of the season sacking our manager from the shadows.
The problems are way bigger than just pellegrini and I dare say the solution is much greater than just the saviour of Pep.
SkyBlueTX
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This is a fair assessment. I think we did have some wasted opportunities at critical times on offense as well as some brain dead mental lapses in defense. The sum result was a missed opportunity, just like the season as s whole.If we'd played like that all season we wouldn't be in this situation. I thought we were outstanding and incredibly unfortunate not to win that game, but the damage has been done far before this game. Makes such a difference when all the players try and are up for it, just shows up how meek we've been all season though and highlighted which players who weren't playing really haven't been grafting.
Neville Kneville
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The full game summed up the season. Total brain farts cost us.
Mangala poor for both goals. Fernandinho poor for the second. Don't know what will happen with Dinho. On one hand, his energy and tenacity is impressive but he's also a total headless chicken and causes problems when he doesn't just hold his position. He has poor positioning and plays such a risky pressing game. It's cost us goals in some really big matches this season.
Yaya looks totally gone. He looks like he has dumbbells on his feet. Sterling is just god awful and offers absolutely nothing. Navas does some good things but it only ever leaves to frustration.
We just need so much doing to the squad.
I would literally only keep Hart, Kompany, De Bruyne, Nacho and Aguero, maybe Silva and maybe Dinho but he needs moving to a wider position. He's not good enough to be a central player in a pep team. And he isn't disciplined enough.
A lot to be done in the summer.
You really think Fernandinho is told to 'hold his position' by that fucking clown ? Not a chance in hell imo.
And if he is told it & doesn't do it, why doesn't he get dropped.
And, he isn't & never should be, a player who holds his position. Imo the worst thing Fern did, was hoofing the ball into the stand when played through. That's his game & before we signed him, he would have done better. Three yeas of the Zomb, in a two, have taken the edge off his attacking game.
flb
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But of course not, he had a train to catch bla bla bla...
Not so shocking we're in this position, many predicted it a while back, however, one thing a stereotypical city fan can't take is 'lack of effort'... There are players in that squad who have coasted for 12 months, some longer, the hierarchy failed to address it and we are stuck with them....
Those thinking Pep will come in, wave a magic wand and replenish 7/8 players are deluded, we won't be able to shift a good number of them!!
Said as much myself mate , Kolorov will hang around and we will have to pay Yaya to fuck off, Delph , Bony , Fernando, Zabba will be here a bit longer yet, I mean why shouldn't they hang around and learn something off Pep -even if they only play a bit part?
BlueAnorak
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Give over. They'll lie on their backs and let the Rags tickle their tummies just like they did in the FA cup.Let us not forget that the rags are even worse than us. West Ham will turn them over and we'll get a point in the last game. We love doing things on goal difference!