Arsenal Thread 2013/14

[Salford_Blue]

How have Chelsea managed to stay in contention?

 

[Bilboblue]

The thing is, we are too. Fourth richest in the world if you believe Forbes.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2013/04/17/soccers-most-valuable-teams-real-madrid-dethrones-manchester-united-from-top-spot-at-3-3-billion/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian ... 3-billion/</a>

6th according to Deloitte.

<a class="postlink" href="http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2013/08/arsenal-money-dont-matter-2-night.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2013/08 ... night.html</a> (you have to scroll down a bit for the relevant table.)

I guess some of us tarquins are bitter that you've suddenly become rich - I find that childish, short-sighted, and ignorant.

"Dennis Bergkamp

Bergkamp left Internazionale and signed with Arsenal in June 1995 for a transfer fee estimated at £7.5m. He joined Bruce Rioch’s Arsenal as an established 26 year old international footballer who looked to have his best years ahead of him. Back then, £7.5m was a huge amount to pay,"

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.soccerissue.com/2012/12/10/how-much-would-the-invincibles-cost-today/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.soccerissue.com/2012/12/10/h ... ost-today/</a>

Anyone who's bitter about that is just very silly. A more justified bitterness, in my opinion, stems from our unwillingness to show the money in recent seasons, pre-Ozil. Perhaps though, that is now gradually changing, and if that turns out to be true, you'll find much less of us 'bitter' about your recent prosperity.

A sensible post from a gooner?

I'm astounded.

 

[Ronuja]

And the pigment in their red padded seats is starting to fade!!

It's all going wrong!.

If drawing to Chelsea and ending the day second place on goal difference is 'all going wrong', I really, really don't mind. Could not believe the booing at the end, I suppose it's mostly just spoiled kids who can afford to go to the Emirates these days.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

And the pigment in their red padded seats is starting to fade!!

It's all going wrong!.

If drawing to Chelsea and ending the day second place on goal difference is 'all going wrong', I really, really don't mind. Could not believe the booing at the end, I suppose it's mostly just spoiled kids who can afford to go to the Emirates these days.

Well, yes. Considering you had a home game to go 7 points clear just 2 weeks ago...

 

[Vienna_70]

Did anyone notice the adverts for the Arsenal football schools on the advertising boards?

"PLAY THE ARSENAL WAY", they proclaimed.

What's that? Go years without winning a trophy?

 

[Ronuja]

And the pigment in their red padded seats is starting to fade!!

It's all going wrong!.

If drawing to Chelsea and ending the day second place on goal difference is 'all going wrong', I really, really don't mind. Could not believe the booing at the end, I suppose it's mostly just spoiled kids who can afford to go to the Emirates these days.

Well, yes. Considering you had a home game to go 7 points clear just 2 weeks ago...

True, that is a 5 point cushion at the top whittled away, but frankly sitting at the top of the table for so long made me downright nervous. I'm perfectly happy with where we are right now, especially if we can pick up with a win at West Ham. The ideal place, in my opinion, is not miles out in front with months still to go in the season (therefore giving yourself ample time to bottle it as we did in 2008), but rather bubbling away just below the top.

 

[Puppet Master Silva]

If drawing to Chelsea and ending the day second place on goal difference is 'all going wrong', I really, really don't mind. Could not believe the booing at the end, I suppose it's mostly just spoiled kids who can afford to go to the Emirates these days.

Well, yes. Considering you had a home game to go 7 points clear just 2 weeks ago...

True, that is a 5 point cushion at the top whittled away, but frankly sitting at the top of the table for so long made me downright nervous. I'm perfectly happy with where we are right now, especially if we can pick up with a win at West Ham. The ideal place, in my opinion, is not miles out in front with months still to go in the season (therefore giving yourself ample time to bottle it as we did in 2008), but rather bubbling away just below the top.

If you look at it from after the Villa game you'd be massively chuffed with where you are right now, but if you look at it from 2 weeks ago it's really poor. You need to put it behind you and win the next 2 away games otherwise the Christmas period has been an absolute disaster. If you can pick up 6 points and perhaps make a world class signing in early January then there's a very good chance you can go on to win the league. But as of tonight I imagine a lot of Arsenal fans will be disappointed, even if they don't realise it yet.

 

[waspish]

That performance tells me that Wenger and his players don't believe they can win the league and that 6-3 thrashing has hurt them..

 

[Citizen_Ando]

That performance tells me that Wenger and his players don't believe they can win the league and that 6-3 thrashing has hurt them..

My thoughts exactly. Belief is half the battle. Just look at the rags under Rudolph the red-nosed pisscan.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

no arsenal supporters i know think that you were some tiny club before your takeover.

but neither were you anywhere near big enough to bag one of the biggest (if not the biggest) sponsorship deal in the premier league and Europe were you? thats why there was so much suspicion around the sponsorship, once it turned out the sponsor was directly related to the city owner.

like i said in previous post, theres no way even any city fan can deny the obvious with that one...

Etihad is I no way shape or form directly related to our owner. It's like Alan Sugar buying Valencia, investing millions into the playing staff and infrastructure of the club and getting sponsored by a company like BT. Completely unrelated yet you fools can't understand that as all you see is an 'Arab'.

this shows a terrible lack of understanding of your own club.

if the scenario you described with alan sugar happened, it would be totally different as alan sugar has no links whatsoever with BT.

your deal with etihad on the other hand, from the BBC:

"Etihad Airways, for example, is owned by the Abu Dhabi government. The oil-rich state's ruler, Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan, is Sheikh Mansour's half-brother."

so basically the main man, the ruler of Abu Dhabi, who effectively owns the etihad company, is the man city owners half brother. hmmm

on top of that there was also investigations and allegations from uefa and other governing bodies around the deal. this shows it isn't just 'bitter arsenal fans' that thought the same thing.

obviously nothing got proved in the end as with a deal like this, done in a closed country such as abu dhabi, you are never going to be able to prove anything for definite.

most fans are interest in is getting good players in, watching great entertaining football and the price of their season tickets whoever they support. until this season you`d become a selling club while charging your fans top dollar. tough fucking shit.

since the first football match between two organised side benefactors have tried to give the team of their choice an advantage over the opposition in the form extra cash.

before you get on you high horse about our finances look to your own history, herbert chapman. united james gibson, real madrid government assistance and there training ground.

 

[City Raider]

2 points from 9 when it mattered against rivals

nothing's changed at arsenal

 

[ElanJo]

Ozil non existent again.

He used to go missing quite often in the 2nd half of La Liga games but it seems over here he goes missing way before that. He obviously has quality when on the ball but he seems to have serious mobility and/or fitness issues which by and large become insurmountable in the PL where the game is faster and there's less cannon fodder than in LL.

Mata and Silva are much better players

As for Arsenal overall, I reckon they're in a battle for 3rd or 4th still. Who with is the real question. Probably Liverpool. Actually, I reckon Utd will finish above Arsenal. They'll need to splash the cash again and sign a top striker for my mind to change on their title challenge. They've had an easy start to the season but that momentum seems to have come to a halt now, they're not even playing well anymore.

 

[bleed.blue]

time to bring back gooner2 :)

 

[HelloCity]

Arsenal fan here not really understanding the Etihad deal.

The deal covers the stadium, shirt and surrounding area. On that basis, it isn't even that big.

Our exposure now is probably bigger than Arsenal anyway to be fair.

 

[r.soleofsalford]

time to bring back gooner2 :)

do you mean like in the jurassic park film

 

[Stoned Rose]

Arsenal have played some proper teams in the last few weeks and normal service has been resumed.

And how can any club who spunked 42 fucking million on this ozil kid who only turns up against the fulhams and west broms say anything about money FFS?

 

[GunnerGer]

Horrible game last night. The conditions, Mourinho's tactics and Arsenal being horrible in possession meant that game had a 0-0 written all over it. Seems this might be Mourinho's tactics in the big away games, try and grind out a 0-0 draw, so I expect him to do the same at The Etihad. Yous however have a much more potent attack.

As for Arsenals title chances, the next two games are away to West Ham and Newcastle. If they come out of those games top of the league, they might have a slim chance of maintaining a challenge as January has some favourable fixtures. After, those 2 games, we'll be at the half way stage in the season, and everyone will have played everyone once, so it'll be a decent time to assess things then. Liverpool, despite everyone fawning over them could realistically have dropped down to 5th at that stage (albeit they have a lot of the big games at home 2nd half of the season).

 

[jlc09]

Arsenal have played some proper teams in the last few weeks and normal service has been resumed.

And how can any club who spunked 42 fucking million on this ozil kid who only turns up against the fulhams and west broms say anything about money FFS?

Yeah bad Arsenal for spending our own money that we generated.

Normal service has been resumed, joint top of the table and ready to go back on top when Liverpool fail at the Etihad and we beat West Ham.

Awful position to be in!!............media driven rubbish that we are in a crisis haha, hilarious.

 

[mac]

Arsenal have played some proper teams in the last few weeks and normal service has been resumed.

And how can any club who spunked 42 fucking million on this ozil kid who only turns up against the fulhams and west broms say anything about money FFS?

Yeah bad Arsenal for spending our own money that we generated.

Normal service has been resumed, joint top of the table and ready to go back on top when Liverpool fail at the Etihad and we beat West Ham.

Awful position to be in!!............media driven rubbish that we are in a crisis haha, hilarious.

Indeed it is money generated by your greedy owners who are ripping you off.1k for the cheapest season ticket.you can't buy that kind of class.

 

[the talisman]

Arsenal have played some proper teams in the last few weeks and normal service has been resumed.

And how can any club who spunked 42 fucking million on this ozil kid who only turns up against the fulhams and west broms say anything about money FFS?

Yeah bad Arsenal for spending our own money that we generated.

Normal service has been resumed, joint top of the table and ready to go back on top when Liverpool fail at the Etihad and we beat West Ham.

Awful position to be in!!............media driven rubbish that we are in a crisis haha, hilarious.

You're not joint top you're 2nd.