Arsenal Thread 2013/14

[Prestwich_Blue]

Just back from Goodison Park

I have been to 6 Arse away games this season and have yet to see us win

In those matches in every game the home team scores first

The games away are City Liverpool Chelsea Everton Southampton and WBA

We lose 4 and draw 2

I have seen us in those games score 7 and concede 23 goals

To say I'm pissed off is putting it mildly. Giroud is a big slow uninterested lump. Arteta is painfully slow. Monreal can't defend. After Theo got injured and was not replaced in January FFS we have no pace and every team crushes us because we are so fucking easy to play against. Press high condense midfield and watch us play so stupidly it hurts.

I don't think the players are doing it for Wenger.

If we fail to win the F A Cup and at the moment we couldn't beat Scunthorpe (no disrespect ) let alone Wigan, or we fail to gain 4th spot then I think Wenger should go.

I'm going to Norwich last game of the season and if nothing else, can I see a fucking away win?!!!

I can't stand this shit

It could be worse

It doesn't feel like it.

Oh it could. Imagine playing a game in which the wrong result in your or the other games means relegation.

To League 1.

 

[aguero93:20]

It could be worse

It doesn't feel like it.

Oh it could. Imagine playing a game in which the wrong result in your or the other games means relegation.

To League 1.

League 1 is pretty shit alright.

 

[supercity88]

Still think Arsenal will get 4th but they were shocking and Everton played them off the park. Everton have the tougher run in and Arsenal will surely do the usual job and finish 4th. Would be ironic though that in a season where they were really considered contenders for the league, they finish lower than in previous years. You could not make it up.

 

[GunnerGer]

Well, yet another horrible day yesterday, just to add to the horrible 6 weeks we've had.

There's no doubt injuries haven't helped us, and we would have eben a bit more competitive if we could put closer to a full team out, but this is Arsenal, and we've always had injuries. The worrying aspect is not the defeats however, its the manner of the defeats. A club like Arsenal should be able to put out an XI that still remains competitive. These are proven premiership players and mostly full internationals after all.

When everyone's back, I see 3 main area's of weakness. We need someone with legs to take over from Arteta in beside Ramsey, we need a left winger and we need any sort of striker that isn't Oliver Giroud! I can see it, you guys can see it, everyone can see it, I've got little confidence that the manager & the board will identify & purchase the improvements required.

Anyone that's read my posts know I always back Wenger. I never said he was perfect but I've always thought he was the right man for the job. Now I'm not so sure. I think now I am open to change. I don't want change for changing sake, I see where that has got teams like Spurs, but if there was a chance to get a Martinez or Klopp in the summer, I think would take it. If the right guy isn't available I would be content to allow Wenger to continue for a year or so until the right guy does.

I want someone that will actually properly coach the players into some sort of system, with and without the ball, not someone who seems to go in with little gameplan apart from 'play your own game, you should be superior'. Well guess what Arsene, these guys aren't superior, not by a long way!
Stop being so stuborn and do something that everyone has been telling you you need all summer. These guys don't have to be world class stars! Can you tell me that someone like Schneiderlin couldn't come in and do a better job than Arteta just now? Or someone like Carlton Cole couldn't come and and be better than Giroud just now FFS!!! (I jest, but you get my point)!

If you fall out of the top 4 but win the FA Cup, will you consider that a good season?

Nope. I'm trying to look at the big picture of the season here, and not focus on the last 6 weeks.

Last summer was a nightmare, for different reasons, some in Arsenal's control, others outwith but whatever the strategy clearly failed. Now, if you had asked me in August, what I would hope for in the season would be to be a lot closer to the top of the table, to be competitive up there beyond New Year and to finally win a trophy, then push on from there the following season So if they finish 4th, and win the FA Cup then they by all accounts should have achieved that. However, to drop out the top 4 after being top in February, there's no other way to address that apart from a complete collapse! Even if you throw in the FA Cup, I still wouldn't be happy. The other problem is, I've now little confidence in them being able to ''push on"!

I just want to see the team kick on and improve year on year. We've treaded water these past few years, most fans have let them away with it because they could see the bigger picture, the fact we couldn't compete in the transfer market until the revenues increased. Well that day is here, yet we made the same mistakes in the transfer market in the summer and January, we're making the same mistakes on the pitch, we're making the same mistakes in the physio room.

The frustrating thing is I don't think we're far away from being a very decent team! But we've said that year on year now. As others have said, it's like having this carrot dangled in front of you just to be constantly chasing it without ever getting a bite of it. The fact that we all know the money is there to improve the side, but the have failed to do so, just magnifies the feeling x100!

 

[GunnerGer]

Well, yet another horrible day yesterday, just to add to the horrible 6 weeks we've had.

There's no doubt injuries haven't helped us, and we would have eben a bit more competitive if we could put closer to a full team out, but this is Arsenal, and we've always had injuries. The worrying aspect is not the defeats however, its the manner of the defeats. A club like Arsenal should be able to put out an XI that still remains competitive. These are proven premiership players and mostly full internationals after all.

When everyone's back, I see 3 main area's of weakness. We need someone with legs to take over from Arteta in beside Ramsey, we need a left winger and we need any sort of striker that isn't Oliver Giroud! I can see it, you guys can see it, everyone can see it, I've got little confidence that the manager & the board will identify & purchase the improvements required.

Anyone that's read my posts know I always back Wenger. I never said he was perfect but I've always thought he was the right man for the job. Now I'm not so sure. I think now I am open to change. I don't want change for changing sake, I see where that has got teams like Spurs, but if there was a chance to get a Martinez or Klopp in the summer, I think would take it. If the right guy isn't available I would be content to allow Wenger to continue for a year or so until the right guy does.

I want someone that will actually properly coach the players into some sort of system, with and without the ball, not someone who seems to go in with little gameplan apart from 'play your own game, you should be superior'. Well guess what Arsene, these guys aren't superior, not by a long way!
Some of your team selections have been strange to say the least, some of the substitutions I haven't made sense of, and how you can go through 2 transfer windows with just Oliver Giroud as your starting striker option is bordering on criminal!
Stop being so stuborn and do something that everyone has been telling you you need all summer. These guys don't have to be world class stars! Can you tell me that someone like Schneiderlin couldn't come in and do a better job than Arteta just now? Or someone like Carlton Cole couldn't come and and be better than Giroud just now FFS!!! (I jest, but you get my point)!

Chin up Ger, could be worse, you could be a rag. then you'd have two problems, you'd be having an even worse season (which would have the added downside as having come as more of a shock after being spoonfed success for so long) and even worse, I wouldn't like you.

That's true mate, it's just been a horrible 6 weeks. I'm not saying this because im on a City forum, but I'm now actually hoping very much so that you guys win the league. No-one wants Chelsea or that tube Mourinho to win it, that goes without saying. But you know what would hurt more, knowing a club outwith the 2 rich clubs & Utd can just waltz on in from 7th place, with some shrewd signings, a bit of luck and some proper coaching and go on to win it.

Please don't take that the wrong way, & I know its part nonsense, but I could always try and justify to myself subconsciously and make excuses by saying well, we cant compete with these guys in the transfer market or attract the top players & that's why we cant win it. What Liverpool might do just magnifies our inadequacies even more!

 

[aguero93:20]

Well, yet another horrible day yesterday, just to add to the horrible 6 weeks we've had.

There's no doubt injuries haven't helped us, and we would have eben a bit more competitive if we could put closer to a full team out, but this is Arsenal, and we've always had injuries. The worrying aspect is not the defeats however, its the manner of the defeats. A club like Arsenal should be able to put out an XI that still remains competitive. These are proven premiership players and mostly full internationals after all.

When everyone's back, I see 3 main area's of weakness. We need someone with legs to take over from Arteta in beside Ramsey, we need a left winger and we need any sort of striker that isn't Oliver Giroud! I can see it, you guys can see it, everyone can see it, I've got little confidence that the manager & the board will identify & purchase the improvements required.

Anyone that's read my posts know I always back Wenger. I never said he was perfect but I've always thought he was the right man for the job. Now I'm not so sure. I think now I am open to change. I don't want change for changing sake, I see where that has got teams like Spurs, but if there was a chance to get a Martinez or Klopp in the summer, I think would take it. If the right guy isn't available I would be content to allow Wenger to continue for a year or so until the right guy does.

I want someone that will actually properly coach the players into some sort of system, with and without the ball, not someone who seems to go in with little gameplan apart from 'play your own game, you should be superior'. Well guess what Arsene, these guys aren't superior, not by a long way!
Some of your team selections have been strange to say the least, some of the substitutions I haven't made sense of, and how you can go through 2 transfer windows with just Oliver Giroud as your starting striker option is bordering on criminal!
Stop being so stuborn and do something that everyone has been telling you you need all summer. These guys don't have to be world class stars! Can you tell me that someone like Schneiderlin couldn't come in and do a better job than Arteta just now? Or someone like Carlton Cole couldn't come and and be better than Giroud just now FFS!!! (I jest, but you get my point)!

Chin up Ger, could be worse, you could be a rag. then you'd have two problems, you'd be having an even worse season (which would have the added downside as having come as more of a shock after being spoonfed success for so long) and even worse, I wouldn't like you.

That's true mate, it's just been a horrible 6 weeks. I'm not saying this because im on a City forum, but I'm now actually hoping very much so that you guys win the league. No-one wants Chelsea or that tube Mourinho to win it, that goes without saying. But you know what would hurt more, knowing a club outwith the 2 rich clubs & Utd can just waltz on in from 7th place, with some shrewd signings, a bit of luck and some proper coaching and go on to win it.

Please don't take that the wrong way, & I know its part nonsense, but I could always try and justify to myself subconsciously and make excuses by saying well, we cant compete with these guys in the transfer market or attract the top players & that's why we cant win it. What Liverpool might do just magnifies our inadequacies even more!

Plan for Gooners 2014/15 season (contingent on toffees finishing fifth)
play under 19s in Europa League to compensate for lack of next-gen football
fuck domestic cups.
Blow transfer budget on Cavani and Menez.
38 games.
Do a Liverpool.
;)

Don't Worry. it's our prem to lose.

 

[prestonibbo_mcfc]

I don't like to say I told you so. So I won't because I didn't. But it was pointed out to you lot, by other posters,
that the title wasn't won in November. You wouldn't listen and this is now karma for giving us Gooner2.
So sorry if I just sit here in a pool of my own urine and no bollocks as I laugh myself silly.

 

[more lazy than useless]

To all those Arsenal fans who are going to have to watch the rest of the season through their fingers; don't worry, if you win the FA cup but finish fifth, then, as long as United end up in the Europa from July onwards, it was all worth it. In fact, I would like to thank you for even trying to make it happen.

 

[GunnerGer]

Don't Worry. it's our prem to lose.

Please, bring them back down a peg or 2!

I don't like to say I told you so. So I won't because I didn't. But it was pointed out to you lot, by other posters,
that the title wasn't won in November. You wouldn't listen and this is now karma for giving us Gooner2.
So sorry if I just sit here in a pool of my own urine and no bollocks as I laugh myself silly.

You might be able to point out posts where I'm about to talk rubbish, but I like to think of myself as one of the more level headed along with another few on here. I try not to go too overboard when we win, and try not to be too harsh when we lose. I'll be surprised if I ever said that I thought we would win the league, because I just think and always have that there are a few glaring weaknesses, the main one being the attack.

However, although we always get injuries, I didn't see the extent of the injuries happening that did. Even so, I still wouldn't have predicted some of the shambolic performances that have happened since. I also didn't see how we could be so inactive in the transfer market in January despite everyone including Wenger & Gazidis admitting we needed a striker in January!

I can understand why a few would think 'told you so' on here because there has been some pretty ballshy characters on here(perhaps at times myself), none more than gooner2 though. If it's any consolation, after having a wee trawl through RAWK, they seem to be missing him on there too, where he was banned as gooner1.

I wonder if he's been on Red Café as gooner3?!

 

[Newman Noggs]

Has Brian Glanville had anything to say on Arsenal's plight ? He always seems to have a lot to say about us !