Ashes 2017/18

[somethingelse]

not impressed with Woakes Root or Alis dismissals,think they have to be more conclusive than they were ,given the circumstances ,spoilt what should of been an exciting finish
very generous to Australia all three,no hotspots ,Ali front pad well down the wicket the ball outside off stump they have been straightening that ball to hit the stumps when it helped Australia as well

 

[M18CTID]

I only think they have better bowlers for the conditions. If we played them over here I reckon we would have every chance of beating them again. We really need a decent spinner and a genuinely quick bowler to be able to compete abroad though.

I think this is a fair point. England have won every home Ashes series since 2005 and Australia all but one home series in that time. Recent history shows home advantage counts for a hell of a lot in this fixture.

 

[The blue phantom]

I think this is a fair point. England have won every home Ashes series since 2005 and Australia all but one home series in that time. Recent history shows home advantage counts for a hell of a lot in this fixture.

They win more emphatically at home though. We never seem to be in any game.

 

[waspish]

Well didn’t bother watching it this morning. But apparently we scored around 1 run of 4 overs? Well if our top batters go out there and just let the bowlers bowl where they want we should of gone out there to attack put the pressure back on the bowlers knock them of there lines! Score a quick 20 runs these Aussies be shi.tting it.

It’s was the type of cricket(attacking) in 2005 that won us the ashes.

 

[Gray]

Root surely doesn't believe what he is saying it is just propaganda.

We will get whitewashed unless the weather intervenes and gifts us at least one draw.

The batting is woeful and the bowling lacks penetration.

 

[waspish]

Root surely doesn't believe what he is saying it is just propaganda.

We will get whitewashed unless the weather intervenes and gifts us at least one draw.

The batting is woeful and the bowling lacks penetration.

You wouldn’t expect anything else really from Root got still be positive for moral. Bottom line out Batters have let us down we need score 350+ to put the pressure on the Aussies.

 

[Lancet Fluke]

Root surely doesn't believe what he is saying it is just propaganda.

We will get whitewashed unless the weather intervenes and gifts us at least one draw.

The batting is woeful and the bowling lacks penetration.

The batting has been absolutely terrible. We knew we had two or three worrying weak links in there but as it happens literally not one batsman has played at the standard required so far. cook is coming to the end of his time, Anderson is knocking on a bit, Ali is not a front line quality spinner. Could be a difficult few years ahead by the look of things.

 

[xgorton]

England are gash

Shit.

 

[mccity]

My big worry about Root as a captain is he seems a bit tame in a period where we need fight.

I think there's a time and a place for it. Strauss and Vaughan were both a bit like that but they were both master tacticians and both were in charge of great English sides that didn't need too much motivating. But since Cook took over I reckon that we've rested on our laurels a bit and it's seeped through into the new batch of players.

I feel like we need a Hussein right now. He never had the greatest record but he turned things around as far as mentality and culture's concerned, and it laid the groundwork for Vaughan's successes later on. People talk about England lacking bottle and that was something Nasser would do everything in his powers to prevent happening.

The only problem with all that though is that compared to everyone else Joe Root is still the best candidate for captain. Nobody really fits the criteria above and at least on home soil where we have an advantage you know he can do a good job.

 

[The blue phantom]

Anyway onwards & upwards Perth next. And we've lost our last seven there :)

 

[ell]

How can Stokes be named in the ODI squad but not the actual ashes? are they just making it up as they go along?

 

[mccity]

How can Stokes be named in the ODI squad but not the actual ashes? are they just making it up as they go along?

He's actually in the ashes squad too believe it or not. It is weird though

 

[ancoats]

i don't think stokes would not have been the answer anyway ok he could have been a better choice in the batting order but bowling nope very much in the same mould as the others its just the old farts at the ECB that is what wrong with english cricket and they don't want change from winning home test with just swing bowling its not english enough to play unfit and proper cricket like bounce and ruff them up stuff ?? good god how dare we even think of change and not playing the game in the right way and spirit

the australians get straight into us getting off the plane and its full on from the moment we toss the coin in the first game to the last wicket its pommy bashing they win at all cost even if they step over the line they will dish it out even more and if knocking your head off wins game and test then you bet there training the bowlers to do it and why not its in the rules and only england think its wrong and not fair and in the spirit of the game

 

[Gray]

i don't think stokes would not have been the answer anyway ok he could have been a better choice in the batting order but bowling nope very much in the same mould as the others its just the old farts at the ECB that is what wrong with english cricket and they don't want change from winning home test with just swing bowling its not english enough to play unfit and proper cricket like bounce and ruff them up stuff ?? good god how dare we even think of change and not playing the game in the right way and spirit

the australians get straight into us getting off the plane and its full on from the moment we toss the coin in the first game to the last wicket its pommy bashing they win at all cost even if they step over the line they will dish it out even more and if knocking your head off wins game and test then you bet there training the bowlers to do it and why not its in the rules and only england think its wrong and not fair and in the spirit of the game

Bring back "Bodyline" the Aussies were not keen on that.

 

[ancoats]

Bring back "Bodyline" the Aussies were not keen on that.

and they learned the lesson and will teach it to kids over there and bounce the poms all the way back home

 

[Happy Feet]

They are totally spooked by the Aussies, Anderson moaning about dangerous bowling and Bairstow whinging about slating.

 

[jimharri]

Looks like discipline is an issue with the current crop of England players. Some of them, anyway. First, Ben Stokes (allegedly!) beats the shit out of someone outside a nightclub in Bristol. Then Johnny Bairstow gives a friendly Yorkshire welcome to Cameron Bancroft. Now one of the Lions' squad, Ben Duckett, has been left out of the warm up game this weekend;

http://indianexpress.com/article/sp...igated-over-alcohol-related-incident-4975065/

"Poured a drink over a senior member of the England team at the end of an argument"

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

Strauss and Cook's chickens are coming home to roost, and I'm loving it. Hope the Aussies wipe the floor with them in the final 3 tests. The ECB never learn and have cocked up at every turn.

 

[Southern]

Strauss and Cook's chickens are coming home to roost, and I'm loving it. The ECB never learn and have cocked up at every turn.

What do you mean by this? I thought they would want better discipline in the team...

 

[waspish]

Should ban players from drinking alcohol. They are professional sport people and if they can’t do without a drink don’t pick em.