Yep totally agree with all of that. Its all new and exciting for newcThey are also currently riding the first wave of success that their new owners have brought, like us 10-12 years ago. But even thentheir stadium, like STamford Bridge or Anfield or Old Trafford, is quiet for some games and loud for others. Our stadium can be too quiet at times but so can all the other big ones. As fans we often get on a bit of a "bad run" mid-season like the team, especailly when new songs are spreading.
My Liverpool mate was at Anfield at the weekend and he said it was like a morgue for 88 minutes and like a cauldron for 5 minutes. That sounds familiar to me.
Not if you have a season ticketDifference with a concert is its a one off event. You dont go and see “insert pop star” every other week at the appollo and then travel round the country watching them on the alternate weeks.
Football tickets are too expensive
Exactly, on a side note im in 119 its the younger ones who don't sing, I've been singing my heart out for 50 years backing the blues, some of these young ones need a kick up the arse !!!What is currently stopping the local fans who have season tickets from singing?
Forget about tourists, prices, etc, etc. if we want to improve the atmosphere, we need to understand why thousands (upon thousands) of people choose to be quieter than a mouse fart.
Pep demands noise, we all want it.
But, unfortunately, we have to accept that at least 50% of people just turn up to be entertained and not get involved.
I wonder what the average age of season ticket holders is...
Whether the club are actively passing tickets to the agency’s or simply turning a blind eye to them getting their hands on them I don’t know, either way City are to a greater or lesser extent complicit in it.Honestly, I'm sympathetic to various degrees on all these points. The only one I'm unsure of is the ticket agency stuff, I don't think it's the club doing that, but everything else I agree on. Not defending the club at all, I just don't like some of the "local club for local people" tone of some of the earlier posts as I think the atmosphere debate is a lot more nuanced than that.
Couldnt get one if you wanted one without waiting a good few yearsNot if you have a season ticket
You said "Why do Newcastle fans support, sing, and create an atmosphere in all 4 of stands and we don’t, bar for the biggest games like Arsenal and Real Madrid last season?".
I pointed out that they are no different, and used the example of the recent cup game we played there. The same applied to the league game the season before too.
Nobody disagrees with the rest of your post which is just obfuscation.
obfuscation
Hope we've got daft inflatable champs league trophies...................notI did? I'll go back and recheck my exact wording on the post.
This is part of what I posted in the post, if this is the part of the post you are referring to?
Why do Newcastle fans support, sing, and create an atmosphere in all 4 stands and we don’t, bar for the biggest games like Arsenal and Real Madrid last season?
I didn't post..... 'why can’t we be like Newcastle fans’, which you said I posted.
(In my opinion, Newcastle fans do give their team more support, more often, from four stands, than we give City from four stands.)
Again it's a matter of opinion. We'll never agree on that point, so let's agree to disagree, otherwise we will be going around in circles.
There is no denying our supporters in SSL1(mainly), 111, 110, 109 and SSL3 give great support as a rule. I would like the other supporters in other parts of the 4 stands to join in more often. That's all I'm saying. I don't think there's anything wrong with that fair and honest observation.
What I've been posting has been clear, to the point, and understandable.
Hopefully with a run of relatively easy home games coming up, goals, and wins, our home support will pickup again and get back to what it was last season and at the start of this season.
I'm looking forward to hearing our away support tonight, which we can all agree on is one of the best away supports in the PL. :-)
The average age of season ticket holders is about 362 and most keep their season tickets because they watched years of utter dross and don't want to give up while we're winning. The football is their reward and they shout support rather than singing.What is currently stopping the local fans who have season tickets from singing?
Forget about tourists, prices, etc, etc. if we want to improve the atmosphere, we need to understand why thousands (upon thousands) of people choose to be quieter than a mouse fart.
Pep demands noise, we all want it.
But, unfortunately, we have to accept that at least 50% of people just turn up to be entertained and not get involved.
I wonder what the average age of season ticket holders is...