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Atmosphere
- Thread starter City till the day I Die
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English fans are extremely reactive to what's happening on the pitch in front of them, the tendency is to create an atmosphere around the action with a stock set of chants for quieter periods. Lots of fans abroad sing and chant despite the action. Just a trend, not a criticism.
Our league has become a big sanitized corporate monster, and the traditional English crowd is suffering for it, as well as ageing due to the money involved in supporting the team.
Our league has become a big sanitized corporate monster, and the traditional English crowd is suffering for it, as well as ageing due to the money involved in supporting the team.
whp.blue
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I have lots of mates who are really passionate blues who followed the club through thick and thin but can no longer afford to go.
When cost on here has been mentioned it seems to be aimed exclusively at the younger fans but if we got back all our old fans the atmosphere would improve immensely,
maybe better then filling the ground with 20 year olds.
When cost on here has been mentioned it seems to be aimed exclusively at the younger fans but if we got back all our old fans the atmosphere would improve immensely,
maybe better then filling the ground with 20 year olds.
Bluesiam
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You mean like 2 competitive teams?Yes it was a great game that had everything a derby should.
franksinatra
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I have lots of mates who are really passionate blues who followed the club through thick and thin but can no longer afford to go.
When cost on here has been mentioned it seems to be aimed exclusively at the younger fans but if we got back all our old fans the atmosphere would improve immensely,
maybe better then filling the ground with 20 year olds.
Its interesting that point and something which gets mentioned a lot. Can I ask do these fans want to go regularly eg season ticket holders or watch occasionally?. I ask this because my season ticket is cheaper now than it was 16 years ago and they were not sold out immediately.
You mean like 2 competitive teams?
That and a bit of nastiness to it, an edge. Everything is so sanitized these days.
trevorriley
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One thing that has come to light over the last few seasons is how fans are split on how they decide to sing or support the club.
Forgetting the tourists / day trippers we always mention but the hardcore city fans young or old, that go to games most weeks are split amongst most of the following.
1, Don't want to sing, just shout when angry, cheer when score.
2, The odd spontaneous song on reacting to the referee being a bastard, player on opposite team peeing them off, sing a couple of songs after a goal then go quite again.
3, Then there are fans that will sing the for majority of the game, Saturday Vs Bournemouth in the lower SS we had the stone roses new song going on for fifteen minutes, sounded brilliant. Regardless as to what the score is these fans will sing.
4, Then there are the fans who want to go more ultra style, use a drum, sing long anthems, not be dictated like Bayern fans but want a constant noise.
Forget the expensive tickets / flat beer / big queues / tourists / cant hang banners, the above is how most the support is.
What we need to do is get the supporters in 3 & 4 together ( ok we try in 115 area but there is still a mix of all types of fans diluting the songs ) The best chance to group together will be with the north stand development safetsand. That will get fans in high numbers singing bunched up, once they belt the noise out you find other fans will follow suit and you get a huge proportion of the stadium joining in. Right now the noise is in lower SS / SS tier 3 / Kippax corner, but it rarely gets loud enough to spread round the stadium.
Forgetting the tourists / day trippers we always mention but the hardcore city fans young or old, that go to games most weeks are split amongst most of the following.
1, Don't want to sing, just shout when angry, cheer when score.
2, The odd spontaneous song on reacting to the referee being a bastard, player on opposite team peeing them off, sing a couple of songs after a goal then go quite again.
3, Then there are fans that will sing the for majority of the game, Saturday Vs Bournemouth in the lower SS we had the stone roses new song going on for fifteen minutes, sounded brilliant. Regardless as to what the score is these fans will sing.
4, Then there are the fans who want to go more ultra style, use a drum, sing long anthems, not be dictated like Bayern fans but want a constant noise.
Forget the expensive tickets / flat beer / big queues / tourists / cant hang banners, the above is how most the support is.
What we need to do is get the supporters in 3 & 4 together ( ok we try in 115 area but there is still a mix of all types of fans diluting the songs ) The best chance to group together will be with the north stand development safetsand. That will get fans in high numbers singing bunched up, once they belt the noise out you find other fans will follow suit and you get a huge proportion of the stadium joining in. Right now the noise is in lower SS / SS tier 3 / Kippax corner, but it rarely gets loud enough to spread round the stadium.
Most away games the atmosphere in the away end is excellent - why? Because everyone who wants to sing and shout is in one section pissed up. At home they are pissed up but dotted all over the ground. Safe standing, cheap season tickets or match day prices and it's sorted.
uwerosler28
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Getting pissed , screaming and shouting is your way of enjoying a football match (and mine too), however there are 35,000 people at least who enjoy watching football in a different way , unfortuanlty there are more of them than us , building a new stand isn't going to change that, and the club don't want to , they would take 100,000 people who come to the stadium as a novelty and spend another £200 in the club shop over 100,000 pissed up mancs who buy a season ticket then spend the remainder of their money on a pint over the rd any day , they are the cash cow not us.Most away games the atmosphere in the away end is excellent - why? Because everyone who wants to sing and shout is in one section pissed up. At home they are pissed up but dotted all over the ground. Safe standing, cheap season tickets or match day prices and it's sorted.
franksinatra
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One thing that has come to light over the last few seasons is how fans are split on how they decide to sing or support the club.
Forgetting the tourists / day trippers we always mention but the hardcore city fans young or old, that go to games most weeks are split amongst most of the following.
1, Don't want to sing, just shout when angry, cheer when score.
2, The odd spontaneous song on reacting to the referee being a bastard, player on opposite team peeing them off, sing a couple of songs after a goal then go quite again.
3, Then there are fans that will sing the for majority of the game, Saturday Vs Bournemouth in the lower SS we had the stone roses new song going on for fifteen minutes, sounded brilliant. Regardless as to what the score is these fans will sing.
4, Then there are the fans who want to go more ultra style, use a drum, sing long anthems, not be dictated like Bayern fans but want a constant noise.
Forget the expensive tickets / flat beer / big queues / tourists / cant hang banners, the above is how most the support is.
What we need to do is get the supporters in 3 & 4 together ( ok we try in 115 area but there is still a mix of all types of fans diluting the songs ) The best chance to group together will be with the north stand development safetsand. That will get fans in high numbers singing bunched up, once they belt the noise out you find other fans will follow suit and you get a huge proportion of the stadium joining in. Right now the noise is in lower SS / SS tier 3 / Kippax corner, but it rarely gets loud enough to spread round the stadium.
There is no doubt ‘one end’ can work but if its struggling in 115 (mix of all types of fans diluting the songs) how will it work in one big end behind the goal? and do we actually have enough fans to participate to make it worthwhile?
The next question will fans actually leave their seats and form one end rather than be sited adjacent to the away fans?
When we were at the old Maine Rd the banks of singers (when all seater) were located in Kippax AA/BB lower next to the away fans and in the North stand adjacent to the away fans with the two blocks of singers split by the away fans. Exactly the same scenario as we have now.
Not digging you guys out because you do great work but just sceptical if moving to the North Stand in reality will ever work as although we moan about the two blocks of singers being split its what people seem to want.
For me the best chance to get together was SSL3, a whole new stand with nobody being inconvenienced or moved to accommodate others.