Attacks in Paris

I was laughed at and called the usual nutjob/tin foil hat by the usual prix for posting on here (2years ago) that football stadiums were gonna be on the list, NOBODYS laughing now are they...coming to a stadium near you,soon.
 
What are you suggesting? Don't send them to prison. We have to have a zero tolerance approach to extremism. Longer sentences and big brother monitoring. I am not going to post today because I will get banned. I am sick to death of the pc brigade.
I am suggesting we make sure prison is not a training ground for them.

I am suggesting you don't send someone to prison for being a family member of a nut, if on the other hand they aided and abetted a crime then they should go to prison and do the time for the crime they aided and abetted. I don't object to harsh sentences for murderers and their supporters but I do object to someone being punished for their blood
 
Brevik killed nearly as many in the name of the white man, the right and Christianity do we punish them for that. We need in many ways do what Thatcher wanted to do for the IRA strip them of nationalism and Catholicism and make them what they are which is murderers. If we treated Terrorists as sociopaths, gangsters and criminals , didn't give them the moniker and fame they craved they would be treated as they are Religion is a great excuse when you are a sociopath or someone who thinks it's clever to kill an excuse that has been used for Millenia.

You're missing the fucking point. Crucially, as most of your ilk seem to.

Religion is central to what they did last night, fundamentally so.

You don't blow yourself up while praising your God without a belief in martyrdom, without a belief in religion.

Religion is at the very core of this issue, of this ideology, and it's about time people like you sat up and acknowledged it.
 
I was laughed at and called the usual nutjob/tin foil hat by the usual prix for posting on here (2years ago) that football stadiums were gonna be on the list, NOBODYS laughing now are they...coming to a stadium near you,soon.

Well done mate. Have a goldfish
 
What are you suggesting? Don't send them to prison. We have to have a zero tolerance approach to extremism. Longer sentences and big brother monitoring. I am not going to post today because I will get banned. I am sick to death of the pc brigade.

No offence mate, but I wish it was that easy! Firstly to combat extremism you have to try to understand it. There's a great book 'talking to terrorists' which is a detailed account by Jonathan Powell that explores intricately how complex issues with terrorism are and highlights a lot of effort that goes into a peaceful solution. Law and order and military action, statistically only brings peace in about 7 percent of cases. Now if you look at how long it took to broker peace with the IRA, who, ignoring their methods, have way more legitimacy in my mind than Isis. Which in turn, unfortunately, makes it even harder to combat. However the real evil out of the situation with Isis is if their ideology spreads to the disenfranchised Muslim youth in Europe. If that happens then we will have real problems! Targeting family members and friends of terrorists or supporters of terror will only make the situation ten times worse and play into the hands of Isis and the like.

So what is this the answer? Honestly I don't know. We have to strike at the heart of Isis but we also have to change our foreign policy because since 9/11 the world is a more dangerous place and we (the west) have to take some responsibility for the mess created.

Going forward it's imperative we educate young Muslims in this country and we make them feel part of Britain, a Britain the majority have been born into.
 
You're missing the fucking point. Crucially, as most of your ilk seem to.

Religion is central to what they did last night, fundamentally so.

You don't blow yourself up while praising your God without a belief in martyrdom, without a belief in religion.

Religion is at the very core of this issue, of this ideology, and it's about time people like you sat up and acknowledged it.
Of course religion has a part of it, just like religion had a part in much of the troubles, like religion had a major part of the KKK hanging blacks, like religion had a part in most of George W Bush and Rumsfelds politics, or justifies abortion clinic killers or Brevik or whoever No one denies that.

What I would argue is you don't attack a religion of hundreds of millions be it Catholicism, Islam or Baptist because a tiny minority of members twist the ideology and use it to kill. You have to show up the murderers for what they are murderers.
 

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