Attacks in Paris

[EalingBlue2]

That's just life we have to move on

That is exactly what the terrorist murderers don't want, they want us to change, they want us to marginalise Muslims and force them into their arms, they want us not to go out, they want tourism to places like Egypt stopped, they want us scared and looking over our shoulders.

Everyone who does move on and get on with life normally is doing exactly what they don't want us to do. This is exactly why Churcchill was such a Great War time leader . The cigar , the confidence, the acting as if it was all normal was a huge boon for the British people.

 

[TCIB]

I am not personally worried. I am pissed of people dare to impose on another in such a final way to acheive something that will never happen and is based in total fantasy.

War is shit and i accept human fallibility but this strain of it i find repulsive. I make no excuse for wanting those who wish such ill's on innocent people to cease to exist i.e get hung, shot etc with decent order or military action. In some cases i would have a sound conscience if they died badly.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

 

[basokla]

I was thinking along the same lines. At least go help them carry the wounded away. Good grief.

Just wanted to come back and own up to the fact that I made a judgement about the person that took the video from his balcony - and I was totally wrong. After he took the cell video he did try and go help and was injured.

So I'm an idiot. Get well soon Daniel Psenny.

 

[TFC]

No I don`t bother with Twatter but what was basically said by JM to cause outrage ?

Here you go oakie -

"Fucking cowards. Slaughtering innocent unarmed people for what? Families and children enjoying life, theatre, meals? Not an army vs army you fucking cowards.

For what? In whose name? Are you doing this in the name of your god? Cos I’ve got news for you, if you think your ‘God’ is gonna reward you for this type of atrocity then your God is a massive ****.

I hope you are all caught and murdered in a similar agonising way you fucking scumbags.

You are an embarrassment to humanity and a shit stain on all of humanity. You will never defeat us, we are too strong you utter bastards."

 

[TCIB]

Here you go oakie -

"Fucking cowards. Slaughtering innocent unarmed people for what? Families and children enjoying life, theatre, meals? Not an army vs army you fucking cowards.

For what? In whose name? Are you doing this in the name of your god? Cos I’ve got news for you, if you think your ‘God’ is gonna reward you for this type of atrocity then your God is a massive ****.

I hope you are all caught and murdered in a similar agonising way you fucking scumbags.

You are an embarrassment to humanity and a shit stain on all of humanity. You will never defeat us, we are too strong you utter bastards."

Fair comment that, nothing there half of us have not said. I assume the "JM" is jason Manford ? i don't get the fuss.

 

[oakiecokie]

Here you go oakie -

"Fucking cowards. Slaughtering innocent unarmed people for what? Families and children enjoying life, theatre, meals? Not an army vs army you fucking cowards.

For what? In whose name? Are you doing this in the name of your god? Cos I’ve got news for you, if you think your ‘God’ is gonna reward you for this type of atrocity then your God is a massive ****.

I hope you are all caught and murdered in a similar agonising way you fucking scumbags.

You are an embarrassment to humanity and a shit stain on all of humanity. You will never defeat us, we are too strong you utter bastards."

Well there`s fuck all in that which should cause upset to any decent human beings.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

Well there`s fuck all in that which should cause upset to any decent human beings.

Would probably offend Damo's sensibilities.

 

[TFC]

Well there`s fuck all in that which should cause upset to any decent human beings.

I think the outrage in this case was aimed in Facebooks direction for pulling a post that many agree with.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

I think the outrage in this case was aimed in Facebooks direction for pulling a post that many agree with.

I thought you said Twitter?

I got the impression that it was he choice to remove the comments, but they were removed by Twitter/Facebook?

Total joke.

Really hope he doesn't apologise. Too many people brow beaten into apologies to placate the terminally offended nowadays.

Anyone who's offended by those comments isn't worth taking seriously.

 

[TFC]

I thought you said Twitter?

I got the impression that it was he choice to remove the comments, but they were removed by Twitter/Facebook?

Total joke.

Really hope he doesn't apologise. Too many people brow beaten into apologies to placate the terminally offended nowadays.

Anyone who's offended by those comments isn't worth taking seriously.

Not sure if Twitter or Facebook to be honest pal, but agree, it was bollocks that it got pulled. Probably because of the colourful language ffs.

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

Not sure if Twitter or Facebook to be honest pal, but agree, it was bollocks that it got pulled. Probably because of the colourful language ffs.

Just read about it, was Facebook.

Thankfully he's not being a cowardly shithouse and is standing his ground. Hope he doesn't bend and apologise to placate the usual suspects in the comings days/weeks.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

 

[mindmyp's_n_q's]

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Do you have proof of that?

It's just as far as I'm aware IS are Rick as they control a fuck load of oil. Qatar's ruling class would stamp down on Qatari sponsorship.

Why has the United arab Emirates or Qatar never been the target of any Isis or Al Qaeda atrocities? Surely the whole outlook of westerners drinking and behaving like westerners in a Muslim country would be red rag to the bull which is Isis?

Pay them money and they will look elsewhere, are you telling me that there are no Isis sympathisers in the more liberal Arab countries with big money to contribute towards it? That's like saying there's no one in the United Kingdom who's sympathetic towards Isis. All you need is an ideology and an a lap top ask the 7/7 bombers that who were radicalised within the UK.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

Yeah, and people like you and your mate @EalingBlue2 will still be saying it has entirely nothing to do with Islam.

Still not had an answer to the question I asked a few hours back? Lunged in and made assumptions did you? Owngoal seems a very appropriate name for you? What's the road map for peace and stability in the Middle East without the cliche 'nuke Iraq and Syria' koffi Annan?

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

Still not had an answer to the question I asked a few hours back? Lunged in and made assumptions did you? Owngoal seems a very appropriate name for you? What's the road map for peace and stability in the Middle East without the cliche 'nuke Iraq and Syria' koffi Annan?

That's very much Ealing's position. I assumed you shared it.

I don't purport to have all the answers, and I'm certianly not one of the nutters you highlight.

But fair play if that was your counter assumption. Cute.

 

[EalingBlue2]

That's very much Ealing's position. I assumed you shared it.

I don't purport to have all the answers, and I'm certianly not one of the nutters you highlight.

But fair play if that was your counter assumption. Cute.

Bizarre ......

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

Bizarre ......

Yes, some of your whataboutisms and continued refusal to truly reflect on the links to faith and religious doctrine in this particular violence truly is bizarre.

You also never offered a response to a previous comment I put to in respect of your rationale.

 

[EalingBlue2]

Yes, some of your whataboutisms and continued refusal to truly reflect on the links to faith and religious doctrine in this particular violence truly is bizarre.

You also never offered a response to a previous comment I put to in respect of your rationale.

Which comment? I am not one to not respond though I think my hours are a little different so I may have missed it last night.

The way I look at Islamists or extremists is that they represent what they are extremism , in this case a medieval interpretation with a touch of power politics and fascism using a literal interpretation as their basis . I don't credit them any more as being true Islam, than a plague rat on a ship being a sailor or a fox in a hen house being a chicken.

All religious texts if taken literally are a nonsense as the fact is they were not factual books as some pretend today but the writing down sometimes much later of an oral history based on story telling, where points were made with analogies, legend and exaggeration. Taking things literally is a dis-service to the people who wrote them let alone to the people today. Fact and fiction were always one and the same thing as one generation told stories to the next generation their past and few could read or write.

I read refugees are terrorists, in my mind they are not refugees at all but terrorists hiding amongst refugees, the refugees themselves intent on escaping that very terrorism. Like a Taliban disguised as a policeman to kill is not a policeman a terrorist pretending to be a refugee is still a terrorist.

But hit me with what I don't answer I will respond and please tell me where I espoused nuking people please