Attacks in Paris

[big blue balls]

You go look for your simple solutions to complex problems and live in a simple world where goodies fight baddies at the OK corral and go home victorious, good luck you will need it in nearly every facet of life.

Now you are making the mistake that you are some kind of great intelligensa when in reality you are not, i have news for you fella, life is simple, you are born and you fight to live by any means whether it's at the OK corral or on the streets of Paris or Manchester, you carry on leading your multi faceted complicated life and i will carry on leading my simple one

 

[softlad]

It says they don't accept cctv and you honestly beleive that last nights events are not a sign of the size of the threat ?[/QUOT

More integration? You mean like in the UK?

Yep, because that is entirely comparable with the millions of peaceful muslims who live in the uk.

This guy is already being dealt with by the authorities and has headed (and subsequently had closed) a number of prescribed groups.

Its people like you who fan the flames of fear mate. Youre burying your head, reading sensationalist headlines and falling for them hook line and sinker. Now, is it the EDL or Britain first that you're following on social media?

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

If these attacks are in retaliation for France's involvement in the plane bombing in Syria, did they not stop and think why the plane bombing started and what that was in retaliation for?

 

[EalingBlue2]

Now you are making the mistake that you are some kind of great intelligensa when in reality you are not, i have news for you fella, life is simple, you are born and you fight to live by any means whether it's at the OK corral or on the streets of Paris or Manchester, you carry on leading your multi faceted complicated life and i will carry on leading my simple one

I will carry on defending liberalism when it is attacked by fascist ISIS and you can go on attacking liberalism when it is attacked by fascist ISIS

 

[Ducado]

The best point I can make re the Christian whataboutism is that there are Christians in Gaza. Christian Palestinians/Arabs. They're a small minority but they are there.

Why has a Christian Arab from the Gaza Strip never blown themselves up on a bus in Israel?

They have just as much reason to hate Israel, and wish to fight Israel as the Sunni Muslim Arabs in Gaza.

Could it be because that religious doctrine and text can, and does, have real world consequences?

Religious belief can effect, and can influence, human behaviour?

Who'd have thought it.

A few of the Palistinian terrorist groups in the 20th Century were lead by Christian Arabs but they were left wing groups

 

[EalingBlue2]

If these attacks are in retaliation for France's involvement in the plane bombing in Syria, did they not stop and think why the plane bombing started and what that was in retaliation for?

I suspect these attacks are because the attacks in Sinjar, on jihadi John, by The Kurds, the comeback in some areas of Assad supported by Putin are starting to hurt and they aren't strong enough to hit back where they would like to.

 

[big blue balls]

I will carry on defending liberalism when it is attacked by fascist ISIS and you can go on attacking liberalism when it is attacked by fascist ISIS

Fascist, oh dear, have you tided up your student flat lately?

 

[RichardDunneOwnGoal]

Of course sectarianism played a central part in what happened in Ireland. Yes, there was a political movement that believed in a united Ireland orior to the Troubles and there was an IRA. You're right in that respect. But the clear catalyst for the violence that broke out was the discrimination against the Catholic minority in Northern Ireland by the Protestants.

And it's actually a good analogy as there were two groups who were nominally Christian (in the same way that people talk about Muslims as a homogeneous entity) but actually could barely co-exist. The anti-Catholic rhetoric from the Protestant extremists like Paisley was horrifying. That wasn't political; it was pure religious hatred. That led to increasing violence between the two communities and the introduction of the Army to try to maintain order. Of course, the use of military force to solve a political & religious issue went the same way as it usually does and made things worse rather than better.

All the elements were there but it was sectarianism that lit the blue touch paper.

As I said though 'Catholic' served as an identifier for Celt. There are ethnic divides also, and that's important to recognise. It became tribal.

You could just as easily swap the word Celt for Catholic, and Protestant for Brit - the hatred was interchangeable.

I think the Protestant/Catholic hate directly morphed out of the Native British settler/Native Irish Celt division.

I don't at all think the hate was borne out of religion. And there are no religious motives for the hate.

It was purely another dividing line between the two groups, a further 'us and them' division.

 

[worsleyweb]

A few of the Palistinian terrorist groups in the 20th Century were lead by Christian Arabs but they were left wing groups[/QUOTE
We are in the 21st century now.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Now you are making the mistake that you are some kind of great intelligensa

No one could accuse you of making the same mistake.