Attacks in Paris

[mat]

No one has taken responsibility yet.

There's some wild accusations on this thread already.

 

[mancityvstoke]

how can you stay out of it though ? they are killing thousands of innocent people and attacking europe. i dont think we can stay out of this.

it hasn't worked mate....just makes it worse

 

[BlueDeadHead]

Of course not, but would you dispute that allowing hundreds of thousands of people into Europe from ISIS breeding grounds just might be a factor in an increase of terrorist attacks in this continent?

Having more of them here gives them the opportunity to pull off the well orchestrated, timed and planned attacks like we've seen tonight. This hasn't just been one or two nutjobs with guns like 7/7 or Charlie Hebdo.

If you think recent terrorists who just arrived from Syria pulled an operation like this off you are a nut job. This takes serious planning and money. This will have been in the works for quite some time.

 

[tiggsywiggsywoo]

I hardly think it's the end of the human race, these sorts of attacks have been going on for many years and the terrorists act under a number of guises

Wait till they get a real bomb.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Crazy fucked up world.

No answers.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

it hasn't worked mate....just makes it worse

im not saying it has, but you can't talk to them and you can't do nothing

 

[Ducado]

Apologies for my over simplistic perhaps naive view.

But where are the heads of the Islamic faith condoning this violenders and these militants?? I'm not just talking about Paris given its still unfolding, I meant in general.

There is no central authority since the demise of the Ottoman Empire and that is part of the problem in that you have a number of competing versions of Islam claiming they are the true version

 

[CityStu]

Depressingly, I don't think there is a solution. You just have to try and contain as best you can. Which in itself is a pretty bleak prospect.

I think we could very feasibly clamp down on attacks in Europe if we turn a blind eye to everything in the Middle East. They don't want us there and I don't think we particularly want to have troops there.

 

[grunge]

While this is a nasty situation, I don't trust the figures being mentioned by the media, they always increase the figures to get the viewers, but I think it's going to be a high figure.

 

[mancityvstoke]

im not saying it has, but you can't talk to them and you can't do nothing

If they attack the UK in a conventional manner we can do something

 

[BlueDeadHead]

No offence but I don't think it's the answer. It would be like chasing smoke and only lead to yet more of our soldiers' lives being wasted. Military involvement can only be effective when deployed in amongst a set of combined measures, top of which is dialogue with ISIS I'm afraid.

WHAT!?!?!? It takes two to talk.

 

[cleavers]

So what do we do? I'm very concerned at the way this IS thing is going

We do what we have to.

In Iraq and Syria, we get the locals to fight back, with our support, and they are, they've taken a town back today, and are close to taking another. Whilst people want to go there to fight we are better off, because they're not trying it here.

The main thing is not to let them stop us doing what we normally do, much like we did with Germany in WW2.

 

[Ruhr]

on german tv they spoke with eyewitnesses among the fans about a panic when leaving the stadium after the match on one side of the stadium. many rushed back and are still on the pitch. So it was better to keep the match going.

at 0.40 in the video

 

[big blue balls]

These people have told us flat out that they want to kill us. Isis isn't a group who makes idle threats. They've done it already. They're doing exactly what they told us they'd do. They aren't a stateless terrorist group, they have a country.

You can't fight them by loving them. They have no mercy. They're trading Christians and Yazidis in slave markets. They want you and your family dead. The funding and planning for these attacks happen in offshoot groups or in the caliphate itself. Destroying the caliphate is the only way to stop this.

Your wasting your breath...fingers...mate, the Liberals will never learn

 

[EL APACHE TEVEZ]

Should of nipped this in the bud ages ago,like over here with the likes of that **** chowdrey spewing out his shite.

 

[Blue Smarties]

Active firefight

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

The problem is that this is a hidden enemy....not a real conventional war....remember the IRA? We had to talk to them to stop the bombs and most of the shootings

But the IRA had a relatively limited political aim, which was (for the most part) achieved by the power sharing arrangement. What is the political aim of ISIS that we could conceivably negotiate over?

 

[CityStu]

If you think recent terrorists who just arrived from Syria pulled an operation like this off you are a nut job. This takes serious planning and money. This will have been in the works for quite some time.

Where have I said that? I've said that an increase in unchecked immigration from dangerous regions of the world will lead to more frequent, better planned and more dangerous attacks.

Plus it's not something that would have had to be planned in Paris.

 

[carlosthejackal]

No one has taken responsibility yet.

There's some wild accusations on this thread already.

Don't think you have to be a mastermind to work out who is involved

 

[worsleyweb]

Your wasting your breath...fingers...mate, the Liberals will never learn

They will be saying the same things when we are walking through metal detectors going into the etihad.