Attendances

[richards30]

I assume Level 2 at the Emirates is Corporate seating. That's typically half empty but does not get commented on as it is not pitchside

For a long time the area around City's Directors Box in the 2nd tier of the Colin Bell stand was half empty, but I don't notice that any more

It is but I think it's only about half the size of our Level 2.

[bigimg]http://www.london-pictures.com/images/xl_1600x1200/emirates_stadium.jpg[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://www.stadiumguide.com/wp-content/gallery/etihad/etihad1.jpg[/bigimg]

To be fair to the arse the Emirates does look a quality stadium!

 

[mancityvstoke]

The stadium expansion is as much about pushing more corporate as it is increasing season ticket holders, Level 2 East and CB are earmarked for Corporate and next seasons seasoncard prices will be upped so much in order to try shove the current seat holders out.. I was told that it was going to be around £1100/1200 for these seats next season.

If Level 2 gets aimed for more corporate it could end up like Wembley where in Level 2 (behind the dugouts in particular) people take up 15 mins just to get back to their seat after half time and it looks terrible. Surely you come to watch the game not for wining and dining..

As the East stand at City is what the cameras are mostly looking directly at, I hope Level 2 prices do not force people out there at all. A few more corporate in the CB stand OK maybe, but leave the East Stand as now, or as is happening near the base of the North Stand in particular there will be bigger gaps of empty seats in the East Stand Level 2 also. If anyone is priced out of CB stand they should be offered good seats in East Stand where available or decent seats elsewhere, where they want to sit.

More corporate is already being added to the South stand development, so if a little more is added to the CB stand only then any more could be left until the North Stand is expanded surely, or maybe even at the stage when the East and\or CB stand gets expanded.

I was told by a seasoncard holder in East stand block 219 and he said they wanted his seat for corporate.

They didn't make them seats padded for nothing I suppose...did you mean 209?

 

[JOGAMIGMOG]

I assume Level 2 at the Emirates is Corporate seating. That's typically half empty but does not get commented on as it is not pitchside

For a long time the area around City's Directors Box in the 2nd tier of the Colin Bell stand was half empty, but I don't notice that any more

It is but I think it's only about half the size of our Level 2.

[bigimg]http://www.london-pictures.com/images/xl_1600x1200/emirates_stadium.jpg[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://www.stadiumguide.com/wp-content/gallery/etihad/etihad1.jpg[/bigimg]

To be fair to the arse the Emirates does look a quality stadium!

It's only better than ours because they've filled in the corners.

Would love ours to be 85000 capacity and we beat our (own) attendance record. If we build it, sign Messi, they will come. :)

 

[AJ71]

THE NORTH STAND (originally referred to as the Scoreboard End):
Original terracing until demolition commenced in 1970. New terraced stand opened in 1971 and became seated in 1972.
Final capacity: 8,527
Seated capacity in 1972: 8,120
Original standing capacity: c.18,000
Standing capacity 1971/2 season: 22,000

MAINE ROAD PROGRESSIVE CAPACITY
· 1923 – 84,000
· 1931 – 86,000
· 1935 – 88,000
· 1946 – 84,000
· 1953 – 76,500
· 1957 – 77,000
· 1963 – 64,000
· 1972 – 54,500
· 1973 – 52,600
· 1989 – 48,500
· 1992 – 39,359
· 1994 – 19,150*
· 1995 – 31,458
· 1997 – 32,147
· 1999 – 34,026
· 2000 – 34,421
· 2002 – 35,150

The first picture is a great one of the crossover between the old and new North Stand. Never seen that before.

Those attendance changes are interesting. I think I can pinpoint most of the big shifts:

1963 presumably when the Platt Lane was built and became all seated.
1972 the North Stand as referred to above.
1992-1995 the development of the Kippax/Umbro

Many of the others imposed by statute.

Honourable mention for Gene Kelly.

Can't figure out why it dropped so much in 1953 though.

Maybe when the Kippax had a roof put over it? I am sure I read it required a bit of redevelopment work at the time.

 

[worsleyweb]

Just been doing the maths on this. We have lost circa 1500 seats on the back row / rows of the South stand this season and with the 2 rows in the corners. (The corporate seats). We are getting the extra 3 rows around the pitch back before the end of the season. (The works to the Colin bell stand lower tier don't happen until next summer). I am assuming based on the information I have been told that the front 3 rows on the 3 sides will take us Up by 3 x 840 plus 45,500 = 48,020. Add 6250 - gets us to circa 54,270 virtually as I was told.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

THE NORTH STAND (originally referred to as the Scoreboard End):
Original terracing until demolition commenced in 1970. New terraced stand opened in 1971 and became seated in 1972.
Final capacity: 8,527
Seated capacity in 1972: 8,120
Original standing capacity: c.18,000
Standing capacity 1971/2 season: 22,000

MAINE ROAD PROGRESSIVE CAPACITY
· 1923 – 84,000
· 1931 – 86,000
· 1935 – 88,000
· 1946 – 84,000
· 1953 – 76,500
· 1957 – 77,000
· 1963 – 64,000
· 1972 – 54,500
· 1973 – 52,600
· 1989 – 48,500
· 1992 – 39,359
· 1994 – 19,150*
· 1995 – 31,458
· 1997 – 32,147
· 1999 – 34,026
· 2000 – 34,421
· 2002 – 35,150

The first picture is a great one of the crossover between the old and new North Stand. Never seen that before.

Those attendance changes are interesting. I think I can pinpoint most of the big shifts:

1963 presumably when the Platt Lane was built and became all seated.
1972 the North Stand as referred to above.
1992-1995 the development of the Kippax/Umbro

Many of the others imposed by statute.

Honourable mention for Gene Kelly.

Can't figure out why it dropped so much in 1953 though.

Maybe when the Kippax had a roof put over it? I am sure I read it required a bit of redevelopment work at the time.

I don't think the Kippax roof arrived until the start of the 57-58 season. In fact I'm pretty sure we started the season with three away games because it wasn't ready.

 

[Marvin]

Just been doing the maths on this. We have lost circa 1500 seats on the back row / rows of the South stand this season and with the 2 rows in the corners. (The corporate seats). We are getting the extra 3 rows around the pitch back before the end of the season. (The works to the Colin bell stand lower tier don't happen until next summer). I am assuming based on the information I have been told that the front 3 rows on the 3 sides will take us Up by 3 x 840 plus 45,500 = 48,020. Add 6250 - gets us to circa 54,270 virtually as I was told.

Thanks Worsley

 

[Questy]

If Level 2 gets aimed for more corporate it could end up like Wembley where in Level 2 (behind the dugouts in particular) people take up 15 mins just to get back to their seat after half time and it looks terrible. Surely you come to watch the game not for wining and dining..

As the East stand at City is what the cameras are mostly looking directly at, I hope Level 2 prices do not force people out there at all. A few more corporate in the CB stand OK maybe, but leave the East Stand as now, or as is happening near the base of the North Stand in particular there will be bigger gaps of empty seats in the East Stand Level 2 also. If anyone is priced out of CB stand they should be offered good seats in East Stand where available or decent seats elsewhere, where they want to sit.

More corporate is already being added to the South stand development, so if a little more is added to the CB stand only then any more could be left until the North Stand is expanded surely, or maybe even at the stage when the East and\or CB stand gets expanded.

I was told by a seasoncard holder in East stand block 219 and he said they wanted his seat for corporate.

They didn't make them seats padded for nothing I suppose...did you mean 209?

Yes 209.. My mistake

 

[Manc in London]

I assume Level 2 at the Emirates is Corporate seating. That's typically half empty but does not get commented on as it is not pitchside

For a long time the area around City's Directors Box in the 2nd tier of the Colin Bell stand was half empty, but I don't notice that any more

It is but I think it's only about half the size of our Level 2.

[bigimg]http://www.london-pictures.com/images/xl_1600x1200/emirates_stadium.jpg[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://www.stadiumguide.com/wp-content/gallery/etihad/etihad1.jpg[/bigimg]

To be fair to the arse the Emirates does look a quality stadium!

Football rivalries aside....it is an excellent stadium.

 

[kippaxkid74]

THE NORTH STAND (originally referred to as the Scoreboard End):
Original terracing until demolition commenced in 1970. New terraced stand opened in 1971 and became seated in 1972.
Final capacity: 8,527
Seated capacity in 1972: 8,120
Original standing capacity: c.18,000
Standing capacity 1971/2 season: 22,000

MAINE ROAD PROGRESSIVE CAPACITY
· 1923 – 84,000
· 1931 – 86,000
· 1935 – 88,000
· 1946 – 84,000
· 1953 – 76,500
· 1957 – 77,000
· 1963 – 64,000
· 1972 – 54,500
· 1973 – 52,600
· 1989 – 48,500
· 1992 – 39,359
· 1994 – 19,150*
· 1995 – 31,458
· 1997 – 32,147
· 1999 – 34,026
· 2000 – 34,421
· 2002 – 35,150

The first picture is a great one of the crossover between the old and new North Stand. Never seen that before.
.

It's in Gary James excellent book "Farewell to Maine Road" - if you don't own it, buy it!! ;)

 

[spacecadet]

Is the North Stand expansion definitely 100% happening?
Heard/read so much on here I honestly can't remember.

They have the planning permission to do it, but there are no immediate plans to expand the North Stand at present. I think they are planning on seeing how things go with the South Stand redevelopment in terms of demand for tickets etc before making a decision.

Thanks Ric.

 

[worsleyweb]

Is the North Stand expansion definitely 100% happening?
Heard/read so much on here I honestly can't remember.

They have the planning permission to do it, but there are no immediate plans to expand the North Stand at present. I think they are planning on seeing how things go with the South Stand redevelopment in terms of demand for tickets etc before making a decision.

Thanks Ric.

Its not that, they are just waiting for the sheik to say to say go for it - its linked to what's happening on the collar site - so as soon as that is signed off the power capacity issues for the area in general can be addressed and work will progress.

The huge crane was built by LOR especially for this project and will be used on the North Stand. It will happen 100% just a question of when - as will the East and West eventually - my guess would be 2017-18 completed up to 62,000. I would hope we will see our East and West stands done early in the 2020s to take us above the scaffold swamp. City were seriously looking at 100k+ capacity stadium on the Collar site. They had no issue over worries about filling it.

Going to be a very different that area in ten years. Exciting times.

 

[Gary James]

THE NORTH STAND (originally referred to as the Scoreboard End):
Original terracing until demolition commenced in 1970. New terraced stand opened in 1971 and became seated in 1972.
Final capacity: 8,527
Seated capacity in 1972: 8,120
Original standing capacity: c.18,000
Standing capacity 1971/2 season: 22,000

MAINE ROAD PROGRESSIVE CAPACITY
· 1923 – 84,000
· 1931 – 86,000
· 1935 – 88,000
· 1946 – 84,000
· 1953 – 76,500
· 1957 – 77,000
· 1963 – 64,000
· 1972 – 54,500
· 1973 – 52,600
· 1989 – 48,500
· 1992 – 39,359
· 1994 – 19,150*
· 1995 – 31,458
· 1997 – 32,147
· 1999 – 34,026
· 2000 – 34,421
· 2002 – 35,150

The first picture is a great one of the crossover between the old and new North Stand. Never seen that before.
.

It's in Gary James excellent book "Farewell to Maine Road" - if you don't own it, buy it!! ;)

Thanks for the comments about my book. Much appreciated and a book I loved researching & writing. Actually all those stats are from that book. The photo is by Richard Tucker, a guy who has been capturing great images of a City since the 1950s. His website is rtfract.com and well worth a visit - please respect copyright though. His images have a value and took a lot to capture, gather and develop over the years.

 

[tonea2003]

They have the planning permission to do it, but there are no immediate plans to expand the North Stand at present. I think they are planning on seeing how things go with the South Stand redevelopment in terms of demand for tickets etc before making a decision.

Thanks Ric.

Its not that, they are just waiting for the sheik to say to say go for it - its linked to what's happening on the collar site - so as soon as that is signed off the power capacity issues for the area in general can be addressed and work will progress.

The huge crane was built by LOR especially for this project and will be used on the North Stand. It will happen 100% just a question of when - as will the East and West eventually - my guess would be 2017-18 completed up to 62,000. I would hope we will see our East and West stands done early in the 2020s to take us above the scaffold swamp. City were seriously looking at 100k+ capacity stadium on the Collar site. They had no issue over worries about filling it.

Going to be a very different that area in ten years. Exciting times.

a very comforting post on a cold friday morning

 

[Marvin]

We already know the 54k will be full for League games because the season tickets are already part sold and we'll have around 45k season ticket holders depending on how many the club are prepared to release.

The Cup games should sell out too based on what we're seeing at the moment. The only issue I see is pricing for the Champions League games. These need to be lowered.

A bigger stadium creates demand, because it's a bigger buzz. The reason most kids get hooked o football is because of the energy of a crowd.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

We already know the 54k will be full for League games because the season tickets are already part sold and we'll have around 45k season ticket holders depending on how many the club are prepared to release.

The Cup games should sell out too based on what we're seeing at the moment. The only issue I see is pricing for the Champions League games. These need to be lowered.

A bigger stadium creates demand, because it's a bigger buzz. The reason most kids get hooked o football is because of the energy of a crowd.

Its not down to the club to how many season tickets they release a certain % has to be held back for match day sales.it dosnt matter how many are in the ground to me but my gut feeling is most cat c games would struggle to sell out .but so what.don't agree with you that a crowd influences a kids to follow a team I think there are a lot more factors than that.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

We already know the 54k will be full for League games because the season tickets are already part sold and we'll have around 45k season ticket holders depending on how many the club are prepared to release.

The Cup games should sell out too based on what we're seeing at the moment. The only issue I see is pricing for the Champions League games. These need to be lowered.

A bigger stadium creates demand, because it's a bigger buzz. The reason most kids get hooked o football is because of the energy of a crowd.

Up until now the main incentive of the Cup schemes was always to guarantee a ticket for Wembley etc.
I wonder how this works once the number of season ticket holders and cup scheme members increase.

 

[Victoria-bahs]

We already know the 54k will be full for League games because the season tickets are already part sold and we'll have around 45k season ticket holders depending on how many the club are prepared to release.

The Cup games should sell out too based on what we're seeing at the moment. The only issue I see is pricing for the Champions League games. These need to be lowered.

A bigger stadium creates demand, because it's a bigger buzz. The reason most kids get hooked o football is because of the energy of a crowd.

Up until now the main incentive of the Cup schemes was always to guarantee a ticket for Wembley etc.
I wonder how this works once the number of season ticket holders and cup scheme members increase.

save your token in the program and the front page of your away program ;))))))))

like i use to do ;)

 

[tonea2003]

We already know the 54k will be full for League games because the season tickets are already part sold and we'll have around 45k season ticket holders depending on how many the club are prepared to release.

The Cup games should sell out too based on what we're seeing at the moment. The only issue I see is pricing for the Champions League games. These need to be lowered.

A bigger stadium creates demand, because it's a bigger buzz. The reason most kids get hooked o football is because of the energy of a crowd.

Up until now the main incentive of the Cup schemes was always to guarantee a ticket for Wembley etc.
I wonder how this works once the number of season ticket holders and cup scheme members increase.

no reason for it to change as its running now

 

[Manchester_lalala]

They have the planning permission to do it, but there are no immediate plans to expand the North Stand at present. I think they are planning on seeing how things go with the South Stand redevelopment in terms of demand for tickets etc before making a decision.

Thanks Ric.

Its not that, they are just waiting for the sheik to say to say go for it - its linked to what's happening on the collar site - so as soon as that is signed off the power capacity issues for the area in general can be addressed and work will progress.

The huge crane was built by LOR especially for this project and will be used on the North Stand. It will happen 100% just a question of when - as will the East and West eventually - my guess would be 2017-18 completed up to 62,000. I would hope we will see our East and West stands done early in the 2020s to take us above the scaffold swamp. City were seriously looking at 100k+ capacity stadium on the Collar site. They had no issue over worries about filling it.

Going to be a very different that area in ten years. Exciting times.

This post made me feel all warm and fuzzy. Very exciting.