Autophagy (and fasting).

[MadchesterCity]

been doing IF/TRF for roughly 8 years save my calories and eat bigger meals suits my lifestyle.

So only have 1 huge feast every day?

 

[somapop]

been doing IF/TRF for roughly 8 years save my calories and eat bigger meals suits my lifestyle.

Wowsers.
Early adopter.
How is your energy levels?
I ask because I'm a about 5 weeks in and although I have enough energy in the morning I'm finding myself really tired atm.
Not sure it this is time of year + awful sleep or lack of iron & protein.
It's coincided with a leg injury meaning I can't run but I've increased my gym routine (there alsmot every day doing something).
Despite all that, I've lost a little weight already (and could do with shifting a little more) and tiredness aside I feel better in the morning.
I'm not easting wayyyy earlier than my usual 10pm + (either 5:30 main meal or 7:30 depending on gym visits).

Not having to worry about breakfast first thing and looking forward to 11am when I can have my first tea/coffee (milked) and fruit kills a bit of the morning too - something to look forward to (honestly).

But this tiredness is getting me down....feels like iron deficiency but that's just a guess. Could be poor sleep or not enough protein. Everything else I do is healthy.

Could be a bad bed/matress too but don't want to change until I move from this flat.

 

[PragueBlue]

Do you feel really hungry! I’m normally eating every couple of hours throughout the day and drinking cup of green tea or coffee every hour. I’ve just read that I won’t be allowed to add honey to my green tea which will make it interesting, fortunately I drink my coffee black. Lent is 60 days right, think I might try this aswell after initial 3 day filter otters fast

40 days. I never eat breakfast anyway so it's only really cutting out one meal a day for me. First couple of days are tough but then I get used to it and it's fine.

 

[somapop]

Going to try fasting from today from 6PM to 12 midday, heard that this 18 and 6 is great for weight loss, liver cleansing, improved heart and brain function.
I’ve just read I’m not allowed to have a protein shake for breakfast as that breaks the rules on fasting. :(
How difficult is it, do you actually feel starving going that long without food?
Do you do fasting every day or at a week at a time, once a month say?

I'm doing more like 11am to 7 or 8 max at the moment.
Not sure what the latest research suggests about that window being even smaller, but like lots of things you have to balance it out/personalise.
Litmus test was running park runs at 9am but I now find I probably have more energy at that time since taking this up.
Listen to that ZOE podcast a few posts back - v interesting.

Black coffee may be alright but you don't want to be adding anything else (which links to that Autophagy in the OP).
Not that I could honestly tell you if this is the right thing to do - just have to try things out for yourself and adjust.

I just have water until my first snack at 11am.

 

[Blue warrior]

So only have 1 huge feast every day?

No I struggle doing omad (one meal a day) I eat 2 meals rather than the 3/4 with snacks standard eating.

 

[Blue warrior]

Wowsers.
Early adopter.
How is your energy levels?
I ask because I'm a about 5 weeks in and although I have enough energy in the morning I'm finding myself really tired atm.
Not sure it this is time of year + awful sleep or lack of iron & protein.
It's coincided with a leg injury meaning I can't run but I've increased my gym routine (there alsmot every day doing something).
Despite all that, I've lost a little weight already (and could do with shifting a little more) and tiredness aside I feel better in the morning.
I'm not easting wayyyy earlier than my usual 10pm + (either 5:30 main meal or 7:30 depending on gym visits).

Not having to worry about breakfast first thing and looking forward to 11am when I can have my first tea/coffee (milked) and fruit kills a bit of the morning too - something to look forward to (honestly).

But this tiredness is getting me down....feels like iron deficiency but that's just a guess. Could be poor sleep or not enough protein. Everything else I do is healthy.

Could be a bad bed/matress too but don't want to change until I move from this flat.

Yes mate I was researching this many moons ago . There is quite a few charlatans out their medical doctors too who over emphasise IF by selling books courses etc.

When changing anything in your life expect a few early teething problem, IF isn’t magical, autophagy happens at a cellular level where the body gets the opportunity to recycle old dysfunctional proteins and thus clears the body of junk cells. This also occurs by calorie restriction. Full autophagy doesn’t really ramp up until about 3/4 days of calorie abstinence the immune system shrinks and one food in introduced the white cells come back stronger.

Just my 2cents from trial and error if you’re doing this to lose weight it’s s great tool as long as you’re eating in s deficit. Don’t overthink it’s not magical just a tool to help with any health fitness goals you have.

 

[MadchesterCity]

No I struggle doing omad (one meal a day) I eat 2 meals rather than the 3/4 with snacks standard eating.

Do you check the calories or just eat what you want?

 

[Blue warrior]

Do you check the calories or just eat what you want?

I started tracking my calories early on to get a rough idea on the foods I like eating. I suggest tracking weighing for a few weeks, you will soon get to know roughly the calories you’re consuming.

 

[somapop]

Yes mate I was researching this many moons ago . There is quite a few charlatans out their medical doctors too who over emphasise IF by selling books courses etc.

When changing anything in your life expect a few early teething problem, IF isn’t magical, autophagy happens at a cellular level where the body gets the opportunity to recycle old dysfunctional proteins and thus clears the body of junk cells. This also occurs by calorie restriction. Full autophagy doesn’t really ramp up until about 3/4 days of calorie abstinence the immune system shrinks and one food in introduced the white cells come back stronger.

Just my 2cents from trial and error if you’re doing this to lose weight it’s s great tool as long as you’re eating in s deficit. Don’t overthink it’s not magical just a tool to help with any health fitness goals you have.

I'm doing it for a couple of reasons really.
One is a bit of weight loss (I'm in reasonably good shape - lots of running, weights, yoga, pilates - rarely drink and eat healthy - size 31 waist jeans!).

But I also have a job at a desk all day (which is better if I travel into the office as I least I'm walking to the station/office etc) and that doesn't help - hence why I thought skipping a breakfast might be a good start.

Autophagy I know little about and only guessing that my form of TRE/IF enables this.
Tiredness aside (which may or may not be related - but it's a bit of an issue) I feel it's starting to benefit in some ways: I've lost a few pounds and my late night eating habit has been fixed :)

 

[Blue warrior]

I'm doing it for a couple of reasons really.
One is a bit of weight loss (I'm in reasonably good shape - lots of running, weights, yoga, pilates - rarely drink and eat healthy - size 31 waist jeans!).

But I also have a job at a desk all day (which is better if I travel into the office as I least I'm walking to the station/office etc) and that doesn't help - hence why I thought skipping a breakfast might be a good start.

Autophagy I know little about and only guessing that my form of TRE/IF enables this.
Tiredness aside (which may or may not be related - but it's a bit of an issue) I feel it's starting to benefit in some ways: I've lost a few pounds and my late night eating habit has been fixed :)

31 waist I’m jealous :) I stopped drinking 12 months ago I was mainly binging. When I first got into this I was swayed by certain fitness/doctors charlatans over hyping this way of eating.

I soon learned this works no better to calorie restriction it just helps you get into a deficit. Maybe there is some cellular benefit but the human trials are difficult to conduct due to adherence. Keep going as long as it suits your lifestyle.