Barca v City Post Match Thread

[br88]

I've had to work along side a rag all day long, smirking and making snide comments while watching City fans return from yesterday's match. All the time, I just kept my mouth closed and never said a word, just thinking to myself 'what an utter knob you are' and so stereotypical of the shithouses they are.
Thank heavens I don't have to work alongside this tosser often.
I can't stand 'em.

I have to say that a couple of United fans I met today were saying that we were doing well and looking good until the sending off. They were right, of course, and it was good to have a sensible discussion with them.

 

[BluessinceHydeRoad]

Much of the argument about who deserved more yellow cards, who the real simulators are, how good a lad who couldn't play last night because he's playing in Brazil until December is, is fairly sterile and doesn't take us very far. Nor does the continuing debate about Joe Hart: Claudio Bravo is our 'keeper and will be for the foreseeable future because Pep trusts him to play the game the way Pep wants it played. That's good enough for me even though there will be mistakes in key areas of the pitch along the way. My own view is actually that this oft repeated idea that Pep wants a 'keeper who is "good with his feet" is only such a small part of Pep's belief that it is almost nonsense: I suspect Pep wants a 'keeper who is "good in his head" ie has the vision and understanding of the game to play passes to players in space who can get City moving forward quickly, as well as being an excellent "shot stopper". Last night,tragically, Claudio was, on one occasion, a long way short of this and played a ball which got Barca having a pot shot at our undefended goal. One hell of an error, but only one of several errors which led directly to goals: KdB tried a far too clever little pass 35 yards out in the centre, gave the ball away and they scored, as did Gundogan when he passed to the right of a John Stones already committed to moving to his left and Messi got his hat trick. Now I think both KdB and Gundogan are exceptional players and they are not bottlers. What I do think is that we are actually realising the limits of what Pep has managed to achieve in little more than 3 months: we cannot yet move the ball at the speed Pep wants and top class European football demands. We get away with a degree of inaccuracy on wet and windy Wednesdays at Stoke or against Bournemouth at the Etihad and even against the mighty reds at the theatre of dreams: but when inaccurate passes give the ball to Suarez and Neymar with their little Argentinian mate strutting about in the middle there's no chance you get away with it.

It isn't that last night's result doesn't rankle and it's not that we're not smarting at it. I was looking forward to the game all day yesterday, now I'm thoroughly irritable. I certainly don't feel like being generous to Barcelona players, but I have to admit that, thank God, there aren't any like those front three anywhere else and we'll have to get on with developing the "Pep way" this season. And along with the spectacular short fall last night also showed the very real progress that's been made. It's hard to see good in a 4-0 but good there was.

 

[malg]

I have to say that a couple of United fans I met today were saying that we were doing well and looking good until the sending off. They were right, of course, and it was good to have a sensible discussion with them.

Different for me. I had one say to me 'proper football lesson that'. I genuinely, absolutely genuinely hate every fucking one of them.

 

[normskih]

I have to say that a couple of United fans I met today were saying that we were doing well and looking good until the sending off. They were right, of course, and it was good to have a sensible discussion with them.

You're lucky mate, I had a real tit alongside me:(

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I have to say that a couple of United fans I met today were saying that we were doing well and looking good until the sending off. They were right, of course, and it was good to have a sensible discussion with them.

You're very lucky because 659 million of them are complete fuckwits !

 

[OB1]

World Class and Gabriel Jesus in the same sentence is the definition of jumping the gun

No it isn't; especially when I never said he is definitely world class. You have read what I said to cleavers without understanding so toddle off and try and be smart arse with someone else because I'm not in the mood for it.

 

[grim up north]

Much of the argument about who deserved more yellow cards, who the real simulators are, how good a lad who couldn't play last night because he's playing in Brazil until December is, is fairly sterile and doesn't take us very far. Nor does the continuing debate about Joe Hart: Claudio Bravo is our 'keeper and will be for the foreseeable future because Pep trusts him to play the game the way Pep wants it played. That's good enough for me even though there will be mistakes in key areas of the pitch along the way. My own view is actually that this oft repeated idea that Pep wants a 'keeper who is "good with his feet" is only such a small part of Pep's belief that it is almost nonsense: I suspect Pep wants a 'keeper who is "good in his head" ie has the vision and understanding of the game to play passes to players in space who can get City moving forward quickly, as well as being an excellent "shot stopper". Last night,tragically, Claudio was, on one occasion, a long way short of this and played a ball which got Barca having a pot shot at our undefended goal. One hell of an error, but only one of several errors which led directly to goals: KdB tried a far too clever little pass 35 yards out in the centre, gave the ball away and they scored, as did Gundogan when he passed to the right of a John Stones already committed to moving to his left and Messi got his hat trick. Now I think both KdB and Gundogan are exceptional players and they are not bottlers. What I do think is that we are actually realising the limits of what Pep has managed to achieve in little more than 3 months: we cannot yet move the ball at the speed Pep wants and top class European football demands. We get away with a degree of inaccuracy on wet and windy Wednesdays at Stoke or against Bournemouth at the Etihad and even against the mighty reds at the theatre of dreams: but when inaccurate passes give the ball to Suarez and Neymar with their little Argentinian mate strutting about in the middle there's no chance you get away with it.

It isn't that last night's result doesn't rankle and it's not that we're not smarting at it. I was looking forward to the game all day yesterday, now I'm thoroughly irritable. I certainly don't feel like being generous to Barcelona players, but I have to admit that, thank God, there aren't any like those front three anywhere else and we'll have to get on with developing the "Pep way" this season. And along with the spectacular short fall last night also showed the very real progress that's been made. It's hard to see good in a 4-0 but good there was.

Far to much sense for this forum

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Much of the argument about who deserved more yellow cards, who the real simulators are, how good a lad who couldn't play last night because he's playing in Brazil until December is, is fairly sterile and doesn't take us very far. Nor does the continuing debate about Joe Hart: Claudio Bravo is our 'keeper and will be for the foreseeable future because Pep trusts him to play the game the way Pep wants it played. That's good enough for me even though there will be mistakes in key areas of the pitch along the way. My own view is actually that this oft repeated idea that Pep wants a 'keeper who is "good with his feet" is only such a small part of Pep's belief that it is almost nonsense: I suspect Pep wants a 'keeper who is "good in his head" ie has the vision and understanding of the game to play passes to players in space who can get City moving forward quickly, as well as being an excellent "shot stopper". Last night,tragically, Claudio was, on one occasion, a long way short of this and played a ball which got Barca having a pot shot at our undefended goal. One hell of an error, but only one of several errors which led directly to goals: KdB tried a far too clever little pass 35 yards out in the centre, gave the ball away and they scored, as did Gundogan when he passed to the right of a John Stones already committed to moving to his left and Messi got his hat trick. Now I think both KdB and Gundogan are exceptional players and they are not bottlers. What I do think is that we are actually realising the limits of what Pep has managed to achieve in little more than 3 months: we cannot yet move the ball at the speed Pep wants and top class European football demands. We get away with a degree of inaccuracy on wet and windy Wednesdays at Stoke or against Bournemouth at the Etihad and even against the mighty reds at the theatre of dreams: but when inaccurate passes give the ball to Suarez and Neymar with their little Argentinian mate strutting about in the middle there's no chance you get away with it.

It isn't that last night's result doesn't rankle and it's not that we're not smarting at it. I was looking forward to the game all day yesterday, now I'm thoroughly irritable. I certainly don't feel like being generous to Barcelona players, but I have to admit that, thank God, there aren't any like those front three anywhere else and we'll have to get on with developing the "Pep way" this season. And along with the spectacular short fall last night also showed the very real progress that's been made. It's hard to see good in a 4-0 but good there was.

I think a lot of posters wont appreciate your sentiments - but well done for trying.

 

[br88]

You're very lucky because 659 million of them are complete fuckwits !

Come on now......that's gotta be a slight exaggeration...haha!!!.

 

[blue wang]

First goal was unlucky but the rest of it is poor finishing and poor keeping and defending. Nothing to do with luck that bit.

After the first goal we lost our nerve, after the second we didnt believe.

we then folded- you right no luck involved in the way Barca went about their business and we went about ours.

I am still quietly confident we can cause an upset at the Etihad based on what i saw.