BBC: lorry deliberately ploughs in to german christmas market

Fuck sake was gonna make a shite innocuous post relating to op but since we are on about ww2 plane engineering, we would be fucked if the krauts had the means to piss out more of their jet fighters faster. Same issue with the tanks, great stuff but technically complex and not easy to mass produce unlike their Russian adversaries.
Sorry it has seemed to have got side tracked a bit perhaps for the best sometimes,Jerry could turn his jet fighters out no problem what he lacked by that stage was trained pilots to fly them and fuel to put in them.The pz4 was easy to produce but again man power and fuel shortages mean't they could use the ones they had, the Panther once its teething problems were over come was an excellent tank.meanwhile back to the thread.
 
Fuck sake was gonna make a shite innocuous post relating to op but since we are on about ww2 plane engineering, we would be fucked if the krauts had the means to piss out more of their jet fighters faster. Same issue with the tanks, great stuff but technically complex and not easy to mass produce unlike their Russian adversaries.

Bit of thread drift crept in...

We would have been even more fucked if they had managed to build the thing that we found the plans for and nicked....few tweaks by Chadwick and his merry men and is if by magic...A Vulcan.

Back on thread, I would never be frightened off going places by these twats, but I am kind of relieved that I rarely have any reason or inclination to go to town centres or big public events. Like it or not something like the new years eve festivities in London are easy targets for a determined well organised group and more so an unhinged solo nutter. Almost impossible to defend from attack.
 
Bit of thread drift crept in...

We would have been even more fucked if they had managed to build the thing that we found the plans for and nicked....few tweaks by Chadwick and his merry men and is if by magic...A Vulcan.

Back on thread, I would never be frightened off going places by these twats, but I am kind of relieved that I rarely have any reason or inclination to go to town centres or big public events. Like it or not something like the new years eve festivities in London are easy targets for a determined well organised group and more so an unhinged solo nutter. Almost impossible to defend from attack.
You'd like to think the success of our intelligence services in prevent atrocities like this on British soil owe something to information from the Muslim community in this Country its in nobodies interest for communities to grow even further apart.
 
You'd like to think the success of our intelligence services in prevent atrocities like this on British soil owe something to information from the Muslim community in this Country its in nobodies interest for communities to grow even further apart.

I dont doubt there are are good few very very brave Muslims here and abroad taking massive personal risk to keep the security forces informed of any suspicious goings on. Infact I would suggest without this we would have been hit many more times than we have.
 
12 dead now, 48 injured
Sad especially at this time of year pure evil bastards,its only just over 3 weeks ago we were on Christmas markets in Koln and Dusseldorf while taking a game in of course,wonderful place Germany to visit these dicks wouldn't put me off going back.
 
The rise of the right in Europe even more after this. I'm sure there will be many "surprise voters" quiet with their intentions who'll vote hard right if it gives them more peace of mind for safety from this sort of stuff in their own country. I'm glad we're an island; I could only imagine we'd otherwise be hit time and time again with it.

Does this go to show you can't be a globalist and a liberal? Surely indicates you can't be a meddling globalist and a liberal anyway (in terms of welcoming all). Quite an unfamiliar stage in history it feels we're going through - either globalisation is proving unrealistic, or at least you can't push to make it happen quicker; if those that would push for it don't accept this, it'll mean significant deaths where there wouldn't otherwise be.
 
I dont doubt there are are good few very very brave Muslims here and abroad taking massive personal risk to keep the security forces informed of any suspicious goings on. Infact I would suggest without this we would have been hit many more times than we have.
I would suggest the reason we havent been struck more is simply down to the security services being able to access intelligence and information as a result of what many people complained about and called (on here in a thread) "the most extreme surveillance law in history of democracy" or some such nonsense
 

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